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TAM Probably To Join Star On May 13  
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Posted (4 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 9378 times:
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Press sources in Brazil says that TAM is about to announce they will officialy join Star Alliance on May 13th 2010, probably with a ceremony to be held in the amazing Sugar Loof mountain in Rio de Janeiro, where they will receive all other Star carriers.

Final understandings are under way and a press release may come soon with this exciting news.

After several years without a Brazilian member in any alliance, TAM is bringing back the Star to Brazil.

Per info i got and also not confirmed, probably one A332 (or A345) with Star colours will pass low level during the ceremony, over Rio de Janeiro skies.


http://www.panrotas.com.br/noticia-t...lando-na-alta-temporada_55775.html


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User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 9342 times:

Great news and there couldnt be a better place for the amazing ceremony at the Sugar Loaf, it will certainly be a memorable moment. Finally Star Alliance is back to South America. It would be a great momento for TAM to announce GIG-FRA daily!

The news also mentioned that TAM will fly GRU-MCO double daily in July and that most of the added flights are already booked and TAM considers extending the added flight for longer time.

Rgs,


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8552 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 9338 times:
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Slightly late as I think the original 12-18 month timeframe would run out in April , but still good news if confirmed ( and way better than AI has managed    ) A very important gap plugged for *A   , but one or two more players in the region would be useful . Does anyone know whether TAM Mercosur ( if it still exists ? ) will also be part of *A ?


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 9328 times:
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Quoting hardiwv (Reply 1):
Great news and there couldnt be a better place for the amazing ceremony at the Sugar Loaf, it will certainly be a memorable moment. Finally Star Alliance is back to South America. It would be a great momento for TAM to announce GIG-FRA daily!

That's right. And will be a fantastic week for Brazil with the Red Bull Air Race which will take place on May 8 and 9, on the same week TAM is about to decide join Star.

GRU-MCO confirms what i bring yesterday with the flights (they are not in fact "double" daily) but it shows also how strong is the peak season end of June-first week of August between Brazil and United States. Busy season ahead !



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 9316 times:
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Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
but one or two more players in the region would be useful . Does anyone know whether TAM Mercosur ( if it still exists ? ) will also be part of *A ?

Probably will be official after TAM joins, but TAM manages and controls TAM Mercosur



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User currently offlinejava6673 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9135 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Thread starter):
Per info i got and also not confirmed, probably one A332

LipeGIG, If this is the case will be PT-MVN , this A/C will be get in a new look on next week at Sao Carlos


User currently offlinejflchantha From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 124 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8967 times:

I think the Star Alliance is saturated with airlines. Seems to me that everyone always puts a flight from their base to FRA ha? Who really benefits?   lol

User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8759 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
That's right. And will be a fantastic week for Brazil with the Red Bull Air Race which will take place on May 8 and 9, on the same week TAM is about to decide join Star.

Correct, Lipe. Red Bull race is back to Rio, and will take place in Botafogo.

Here is a fantastic shot of where the TAM joining Star Alliance ceremony will take place (btw, this photo is my screen saver)


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Can we expect TAM aircraft with Star colours flying over the sugar loaf???

Rgs,


User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8719 times:

Lipe, the rumour about the 13 May being the official date TAM joins Star Alliance is becoming stronger -

According to BAA, TAM is moving into London Heathrow T1 on the 28th of March, where the majority of other Star Alliance airlines fly from, therefore sharing the new Star Alliance lounge and other facilities, especially connections will become much easier (both for BMI for intra-Europe/UK and ANA for Japan, for example).

TAM will be altering their fare classes on the 14th March, according to United's mileage chart, to better align with other Star Alliance airlines. FF program will therefore also be aligned to counterparts in Star.

All in all,

- TAM has passed the IOSA (Iata Operational Audit) and extended the license to 2012
- TAM comments that FF-members of their airline will be able to accrue and redeem miles on other *A flights by May 2010
- Transition to Amadeus completeded, after problem shooting for some weeks, the process is now fully normalised.

Rgs,

[Edited 2010-03-03 02:51:45]

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8683 times:

Quoting hardiwv (Reply 8):
the rumour about the 13 May being the official date TAM joins Star Alliance is becoming stronger -

Varig used to be part of Star Alliance so TAM is taking their place as Varig have now gone. This is only logical.
If not TAM they would have taken Aerolineas Argentina. Star Alliance needed to have a South American carrier I guess.

As a 100K+ miles/year frequent flyer my feeling is that Star Alliance is now getting way too big. If it gets any bigger it will soon go out of control.

Some upper crust airlines such as Singapore Airlines will go back on their own. Most Gulf States airlines such as Etihad and Emirates are part of no alliance - I doubt they will ever join any of them - and still they are doing very well.



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User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8679 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
If not TAM they would have taken Aerolineas Argentina

Are you joking? No way AR has any condition to join any alliance... In fact TAM was very close to OW with AA and SkyTeam with AF, but LH/UA were smarter and attracted TAM. There is no logic here, purely business strategy.

The next round will be about GOL, whether AA will be stronger or AF will win by bringing GOL to SkyTeam.

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8468 times:
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Quoting java6673 (Reply 5):
LipeGIG, If this is the case will be PT-MVN , this A/C will be get in a new look on next week at Sao Carlos

Thanks for the info. I know one A345 is also on maintenance (check)

Quoting jflchantha (Reply 6):
think the Star Alliance is saturated with airlines. Seems to me that everyone always puts a flight from their base to FRA ha? Who really benefits? lol

The old carriers already on Star that got increased connectivity from time to time, adding more options to their customers.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
As a 100K+ miles/year frequent flyer my feeling is that Star Alliance is now getting way too big. If it gets any bigger it will soon go out of control.

But this is good to airlines. Looking into alliance perspective, it's good that they are sharing the expenses between more airlines, making it cheaper. Customers also got the advantage, as i mentioned on the comment above, with good news in terms of destinations and services from time to time.

Quoting hardiwv (Reply 8):
Lipe, the rumour about the 13 May being the official date TAM joins Star Alliance is becoming stronger -

According to BAA, TAM is moving into London Heathrow T1 on the 28th of March, where the majority of other Star Alliance airlines fly from, therefore sharing the new Star Alliance lounge and other facilities, especially connections will become much easier (both for BMI for intra-Europe/UK and ANA for Japan, for example).

TAM will be altering their fare classes on the 14th March, according to United's mileage chart, to better align with other Star Alliance airlines. FF program will therefore also be aligned to counterparts in Star.

Good to know they are moving on the last issues. I believe we shall see the new FF tier becoming public soon also.



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8337 times:
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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8329 times:

Great news! Now I'll have where to spend my UA miles!  

Isn't it ironic that JJ's joining the same alliance that RG left a void in?



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8299 times:
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Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 13):
Isn't it ironic that JJ's joining the same alliance that RG left a void in?

Not only ironic but also, a reason for a lot of people to not accept it.



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User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8552 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8289 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 14):
Not only ironic but also, a reason for a lot of people to not accept it.

Sorry , am I missing something ? Could you please explain what you mean ? Thanks  



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8257 times:
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Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
Sorry , am I missing something ? Could you please explain what you mean ? Thanks

This happens in Brazil, and we have a lot of Varig supporters that won't accept the idea that Tam will join Star.



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User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8245 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
Could you please explain what you mean ? Thanks
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 16):
This happens in Brazil, and we have a lot of Varig supporters that won't accept the idea that Tam will join Star
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 14):
Not only ironic but also, a reason for a lot of people to not accept it.

What Lipe explained is correct. Unfortunately in Brazil you still have this backward type debate, Varig versus TAM, or my city airport should be better than the other city....it does not help to develop the country. Just paroquial style of thinking instead of having the bigger picture in mind.

Rgs,


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8552 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8233 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 16):
and we have a lot of Varig supporters that won't accept the idea
Quoting hardiwv (Reply 17):
Unfortunately in Brazil you still have this backward type debate

Thanks for the explanation ,( and Hardiwv , don't worry , it isn't just Brasil , in our part of the world we have a lot of people still trying to live in the past over the whole Ansett debacle . )

Anyway , for what it is worth , I am very excited for JJ and *A .   



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User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8229 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 18):
in our part of the world we have a lot of people still trying to live in the past over the whole Ansett debacle

Indeed, I imagine you must have the type of rivalry like why is Auckland NZ hub and not Christchurch or Wellington, or why is Sidney the hub in Australia, and not Melbourne or Brisbane! Anyhow, I have very good memories of Ansett and in fact ketp one of its amenity kits!  

Rgs,


User currently offlineAAEXP From Brazil, joined Jul 2005, 424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 8210 times:

Most of these Varig (RG) dreamers suffer from partial amnesia. They only remember the good things about Varig (and there were many admittedly) and forget about all the (many) other issues that airline had to deal with. But that is, as Hardivw and Lipe have said, colloquial stuff that more realistic people have already mentally dealt with and put behind them.

User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 8193 times:

This is great news for TAM...they are finally getting out from under AA and OneWorld and joining an alliance that does not believe in poaching a members area or customers. No longer does TAM have to look over their shoulder to see how much AA metal is being thrown on top of their routes. In return *A gets a vibrant and growing carrier to compliment their worldwide structure. This is a win-win and IMHO you will see more latin carriers moving towards *a because of AA attempted dominance into even their home cities in an attempt to stay financially viable at the expense of the local carriers.

Of course your mileage may vary...grin.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 8177 times:
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Quoting AAEXP (Reply 20):
Most of these Varig (RG) dreamers suffer from partial amnesia. They only remember the good things about Varig (and there were many admittedly) and forget about all the (many) other issues that airline had to deal with. But that is, as Hardivw and Lipe have said, colloquial stuff that more realistic people have already mentally dealt with and put behind them.

RG failed to identify the changes required by the market as well as to manage their internal problems. They were capable to charge US$ 10,000 for a One way ticket GIG-FRA and even with that...... RIP

Quoting hiflyer (Reply 21):
This is great news for TAM...they are finally getting out from under AA and OneWorld and joining an alliance that does not believe in poaching a members area or customers

True. When they join Star, the partnership between LA and JJ for example will be more limited, just to South America, and AFAIK, in the near future will be over.



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User currently offlinejava6673 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 20 hours ago) and read 8080 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
I know one A345 is also on maintenance (check)

Yes, you're right, this A/C is at Haeco in Hong Kong, will take about 45 days to finish this check


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11436 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 8052 times:
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Quoting java6673 (Reply 23):
Yes, you're right, this A/C is at Haeco in Hong Kong, will take about 45 days to finish this check

Thanks. I don't know if TAM will decide on the A345 over the A332 which in my view is more about their " workhorse ". Plus the A345 flies only to MXP while the A332 covers MAO, GIG, JFK, MIA, MCO, MAD, CDG and EZE.

But probably the A345 will return with the small Star sign.



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25 hardiwv : Thanks for the info. The expectations is that it also comes back fitted with the new seats. What aircraft is TAM using in MXP while the A345 is under
26 hiflyer : I do not expect that JJ is the last carrier in the region to join *a even if it involves leaving another alliance....more carriers in the area have '
27 java6673 : A345 will, return with the new color, I guess all airplane will use a little Star logo
28 AF086 : IIRC, the A332.
29 hardiwv : Thanks for the info. So MXP must be operating combination of A332 and A345. TAM has 2 A345 and one arrived in HKG so far. TAM A345 arrived in HKG Hae
30 Commavia : I'm not disagreeing with you that, strategically, Star was definitely a better fit for TAM going forward than oneworld because it allowed them to pret
31 Post contains images MaverickM11 : A.net is Brazillian?
32 LipeGIG : 1 A345 1 A332 I agree with you. Expect to see TA in the near future, or even CM. Normally TAM does that on routes that use B763, A345 or B77W. The tw
33 java6673 : Thanks for the info. So MXP must be operating combination Hardiw, Is a "C4 - 6Y" Check , schedule for 31 Days but could be more, depending in A/C cond
34 VC10er : I was that business class passenger that paid $10,000 for a one-way FRA/GIG ticket. It was a business emergency and last minute I had to reroute from
35 LipeGIG : And you were not the only one. Due to the limited service to Europe at that time, GIG-FRA enjoyed very little competition and a massive number of cus
36 MaverickM11 : JJ just applied for codeshare authority with CO; anyone know which routes?
37 hardiwv : The cheapes one-way business class fare KL from AMS to GRU is selling at USD6000, if you get J fares (not rare) it will sell for over USD10,000 and i
38 C010T3 : Continental: RIO-BHZ RIO-REC RIO-SSA RIO-VIX SAO-BHZ SAO-BSB SAO-CGR SAO-CWB SAO-FLN SAO-IGU SAO-POA SAO-REC SAO-SSA MAO-MIA GIG-MIA GIG-JFK GRU-MIA
39 hardiwv : Very interesting development and thanks for sharing. I am yet waiting for TAM to land in one of Star major hubs in the US, anyone guess which has mor
40 LipeGIG : Yes, and you can find one-way tickets to Europe as low as US$ 3,000. Why a company would pay US$ 8,000 if there's cheap tickets ???? What we mentione
41 hardiwv : Many reasons, if the fares are in the market you can be sure that they are sold. See KL example, one-way AMS-GRU for USD6000 the cheapest...and they
42 loalq : Rgs, Indeed! Tam's livery looks cheap and uninspired. Also the odd "The Magic Red Carpet" thing only makes it look worse. And red is not a good color
43 LipeGIG : Quoting loalq (Reply 42): Lipe, if I am not mistaken the GRU-LAX-NRT service was one of the most profitable for Varig -- high loads all year round. An
44 abrelosojos : = NRT did well for RG until about late 1990s, but then things went a little south. It coincided with RG's "Asia push" AFAIR. Completely on the mark w
45 Dellatorre : That's your opinion, but so far the image, name and slogan has worked well for the airline, especially in the domestic market.
46 Viscount724 : But there are many much lower fares than those. Looking at some random dates within the next month, TAM has a one way J fare AMS-GIG via CDG (using A
47 VC10er : I don't get, and never will, understand airline fares. I am lucky because I fly so much for work that nobody stands in the way of my choice (9 out of
48 LipeGIG : It depends on little research always. The airline website does not show bulk fares that some websites offer. Is the same here in NYC, i have access t
49 VC10er : Right. And on one level we are spoiled, on another we could be home with our loved ones. I of course perfer a first class seat on a groovy airline!
50 hardiwv : TAM also connects a lot of pax to NRT via LHR. I friend who works for ANA in LHR told me about 20 pax/day. Again, this is very anedoctal number, he s
51 VC10er : I love to fly. It is so interesting to see how each airline has made decisions from seat design to different perks. The little house on KLM or the ros
52 klkla : SkyTeam really needs a stong partner in South America so I hope it is them, but AA has strong ties to GOL now don't they?
53 VC10er : I know they did a deal with VARIG, which is GOL with a different paint job. I don't know if the new VARIG feels more mainline than GOL which is clear
54 C010T3 : New Varig is nothing but a ghost. It does not exist, it's just a brand that is carried on some airplanes, but everything is GOL, from the check-in to
55 AAEXP : No F
56 hardiwv : Yes, so much that there have been rumours in the market that GOL would join OW. Delf Blue houses. Rgs,
57 LipeGIG : The rumors i always heard were that GOL would join SkyTeam as they made agreements with some of the ST members in the near past: Copa and Air France
58 VC10er : Too bad about new VARIG. I thought that GOL would have positioned the brand to be a premium version even with all 737's.
59 LipeGIG : I agree, but the big advantage would be if they in the near future try to first fly to the Caribbean with brand new 772's or even 787's with Varig br
60 VC10er : We all have to realize that all that exists of the RG we all love is the fact the name was bought in a fire sale. All the people I knew and loved, all
61 Dellatorre : The simple fact that you related Panam with Varig explains quite well why this brand will never come back!! Thank God! It should be burried and GOL s
62 LipeGIG : I respect your opinion but in my view GOL brand and product is very linked to low fare/low cost and limited service. If they want to obtain good resu
63 Dellatorre : If GOL ever decides to venture into long haul flights it will be best creating a new, fresh, inspiring brand instead of using RG's which, to be hones
64 VC10er : It's true that I can't think of a PanAm or Braniff that has been brought back from the dead. In PanAm's case, eventhough there is plenty of love left
65 Post contains images LipeGIG : I'll introduce you to some investors I don't know, but Brazilian market is different from Europe or US and there's every chance to develop a long hau
66 VC10er : Lipe, seriously? As you know I'm an Executive Creative Director for Landor and we would invest behind such an effort. While I like TAM a lot, I perso
67 AAEXP : Fasano?
68 VC10er : Inspired by the Fasano hotel in the "Jardims" in SP Nd the new one in Arpoardor in Rio. One of the most luxurious and spectacular hotels and restaura
69 OP3000 : Brazil is way too big and its global footprint is growing too much for it to have only one major international carrier, including long-haul. The Vari
70 Dellatorre : Seriously, why doesn't GOL try something new? Perhaps using the well recognized FFP name Smiles in this new venture. It would bring the best out of RG
71 Post contains images AAEXP : Hmmm..........
72 LipeGIG : I sent you a private message. That's true and there's open opportunities ! Gol have no plans for that, but they might have plans to purchase a well s
73 VC10er : One sign about TAM is that is a BAD sign is rather retain real brand identity firm with serious experience in the industry, they would rather than hav
74 Viscount724 : I don't think aircraft livery has any effect on an airline's success. The branding is more important in advertising and similar materials, but all ai
75 UA772IAD : This will be a great 23rd birthday present. Finally, Star chooses to fill the hole left by Varig's demise.
76 Post contains links hardiwv : Although not related to brand itself, it seems TAM is moving boldy to the right direction. TAM will redesign its entire cabin interior and has recrui
77 airevents : I hope one of the positive effects with TAM joining Star will be the ability to use staff travel tickets on them. Right now, they don´t seem to have
78 VC10er : Well I don't know that agency but all I can say is "good"! Airline liveries do indeed matter and matter a lot. Millions of dollars in consumer researc
79 java6673 : PT-MVM on schedule to be painted with Star scheme on last week of March at Sao Carlos (QSC)
80 LipeGIG : And the ceremony has been confirmed to be held in Rio de Janeiro on May 13th. All Star CEOs expected to attend it.
81 hardiwv : Great news for TAM. It is also indicated that TAM does not know for sure the new route it will start with the 2 additional A330s arriving soon. They
82 Post contains links and images C010T3 : Contato Radar Forum user A320PRMHZ posted the first photo of a TAM aircraft carrying the Star Alliance's star. PT-MZQ at GIG: [Edited 2010-03-17 16:37
83 java6673 : They already announce an extra flight from June - August for MCO, arriving MCO around 10:30 PM and leaving around 1:00 AM,
84 VC10er : Question: all TAM international interiors are now exactly the same? The same that can be found on the 777? In all 3 classes? Does TAM have an enhanced
85 hardiwv : JJ8086 GRU1110 – 1910MCO 330 D JJ9354 GRU1430 – 2210MCO 330 D 30JUN10 – 06AUG10 JJ9355 MCO0145 – 1135GRU 330 D 01JUL10 – 07AUG10 JJ8087 MCO
86 Post contains images lh526 : ..... and there still is no London - New York flight operated by a Star Alliance carrier .. ... although GIG is not really a big player on the Star A
87 lh526 : Varig back in day was a Pioneer airline of Brasil ... great livery, excellent office design, excellent brand ... yet way too serious, cold and intern
88 ANstar : Continental fly London - New York and they are in STAR.
89 Post contains images AAEXP : Where does Brigitte Bardot and Buzios fit into this?
90 LipeGIG : Yes, B77W or A332, they look like the same. Y, C and F. Unfortunatelly not. Would be good to have but i don't think they will add it. lol.... one of
91 LipeGIG : I would love to know why they decided to host the ceremony in Rio. I believe is to show the plane with new Star livery in a special low level flight
92 lh526 : Right ... I ment especialy the Heathrow - JFK run
93 OP3000 : Its kind of like why a lot of ceremonies, etc in South Africa are hosted in Cape Town vs. J'burg. Not the largest or most important city, but better
94 kiwiandrew : CO flies EWR-LHR and is soon increasing frequency to 5 x daily .
95 IDISA : Me too. TAM is based at GRU not GIG. Probably Rio is quite a more scenic location than Sao Paulo. Also when they had new brand and new colour scheme
96 AAEXP : The is an old rumor running around Rio that TAM is thinking about moving its headquarters to Rio. Who knows, crazier things have happened in Brazil..
97 LipeGIG : No doubt Rio is the Brazil's visit card abroad. And no way to compare a ceremony into a hotel like when TAM announce they would join Star (in Sao Pau
98 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Probably because there's no parking at GRU
99 C010T3 : I have never heard that and that will never happen.
100 VC10er : Fernando Pinto on Pao de Acucar! How ironic!
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