aaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1497 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2865 times:
Can answer 2nd portion of your question more readily:
LAX served as the west coast gateway to BNs South American network. SFO was the tag city for the service. Looking at the 07Jul69 BN timetable, both LAX and SFO were served twice a week (Mo/Fr). The Mo routing was SFO-LAX-LIM(+1)-SCL(+1). The Fr routing was SFO-LAX-LIM(+1)-LPB(+1).
(+1) = arrival next day
Returns to LAX/SFO departed Th/Su, flew overnight, with Mo/Fr morning arrivals. Aircraft utilized was the venerable DC8-62.
This was the extent of BN's service to LAX/SFO during that period.
With a choice between changing one's mind & proving there's no need to do so, most everyone gets busy on the proof.
WA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2141 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2678 times:
LAX and SFO were not among Braniff's original routes to South America, which were awarded in the late 1940s. Braniff added routes from these cities to South America with the purchase of Pan American Grace Airways (Panagra) in 1967. Braniff had no domestic routes from either city, and was not allowed to carry local LAX-SFO passengers.
In the late 1960s, Braniff applied for LAX-DAL authority, but the route was awarded to Continental in 1969. CO was not able to compete against AA and DL, and suspended the route within a couple of years after it was awarded. After Continental dropped the route, Braniff applied to take it over, but no action had been taken on the request before deregulation.
timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6644 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2605 times:
Cearley says BN's DC-8-62 flights SFO-LAX-LIM (and beyond) started 2/69. Before that the LAX/-SFO flight was a BN-PA interchange 707, via Panama. So for all we know BN 707s may have appeared in California before 2/69.
Panagra merger was 2/67; the DC-8-62s were ordered by them.
JFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 476 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2465 times:
I recall seeing photos of the 707-327C at LAX in the late 60s painted in the pastel scheme. Also, if am not mistaken, Pan Am operated Braniff's DC8-62 in PA colors (with full Pan American titles) as an interchange to LAX and SFO. I'm also nearly certain that there were BN flights operated LAX-PTY. Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.
FLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1183 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
As for domestic: still none in the 10/78 timetable, but by 3/79 they had DFW-LAX, SAT-LAX, DEN-LAX, DFW-OAK, DEN-OAK, LAS-OAK, all one flight a day. Pretty sure they dropped OAK in 10/79.
They didn't start DFW-SFO until 1982.
Quoting PacificClipper (Reply 5): Till when did BN operate the LAX-LIM-SCL/LPB flights? I don't recall EA operating flights to either city from LAX after purchasing BN's South American network.
Quoting timz (Reply 7): LAX-LIM, LAX-SCL and LAX-BOG are all in the 4/82 timetable.
I arrived in the US in July, 1977 and graduated from high school in the Bay Area in June, 1982. I remember flying the SFO-LAX-LIM-LAX-SFO route at least a couple of times, usually summer and Christmas, between those times. My last flight was probably around 1981.