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User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3164 posts, RR: 9
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

Do you ever plan an itinerary with a connection at a non-hub airport?

Examples:

Flying UA DEN-DSM-ORD
Flying DL ATL-TUL-SLC
Flying CO IAH-ORD-EWR

[Edited 2010-03-04 06:12:31]


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User currently offlineridgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Do you ever plan an itinerary with a connection at a non0hun airport?

Examples:

Flying UA DEN-DSM-ORD
Flying DL ATL-TUL-SLC
Flying CO IAH-ORD-EWR

For non-revers this is common, as it is many times easier to make a connection thru another city rather than the hub to hub flights because they usually run at capacity, and many times are catch-alls for all types of missconnects, delays etc.


User currently offlineCrosscheck007 From Poland, joined Jan 2010, 278 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

The most interesting one I have seen (and no, this was not an irrops itinerary): DSM-STL-MSN-ORD-DTW. All in one afternoon/evening.

Cheers,

007



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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8287 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3741 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Do you ever plan an itinerary with a connection at a non0hun airport?

I try not to 'cause if I miss my connection I'm screwed 'cause non-hub airports offer a lot fewer alternatives.


User currently offlineRampGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

In June, 2007 I drove to CVG from IND and flew IND-BNA-ATL-IAH. I did this because of heavy loads out of IND. I looked at several city pairs and decided this route was the best.

User currently offlinemcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

I flew ORD-LNC-DEN once. There were actually quite a few folks (say 20) doing the same itinerary. It worked fine and was an interesting way to travel from Chicago to Denver

User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3462 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

I think it's simply another kind of hubbing. It is part of airlines strategy to offer alternative convenient routings at any time of the day. It becomes even better when it's the same aircraft continue the second leg !

User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3504 times:
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DL's website will often offer strange itineraries that involve regional jet flights and connections in places like RIC or RDU or DCA.

User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3462 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

LCCs do so even if they have the reputation of point-to-point connections !

User currently offlineauroralives From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Do you ever plan an itinerary with a connection at a non-hub airport?

Well... I wouldn't say planned, but the following was offered to me as the cheapest/most convenient option for an upcoming trip...

YWG - YQT - YOW

I was thrilled as now I get to spend a whopping 28 minutes in a new airport    It appears to have only 2 jetways, so I'm hoping I won't get lost making the connection...


User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1633 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

I have indeed planned such routes. In November, rather than flying ORD-STL non-stop on AA or UA, I flew ORD-MSP-CLE-DTW-STL on NW. It was not much more expensive and gave me over 2,000 SkyMiles as opposed to less than 500 miles as a base member with AA or UA. Of course, the trip was worth it just to hitch a ride on the venerable old DC-9-40 that took me from DTW back to STL.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22867 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Do you ever plan an itinerary with a connection at a non-hub airport?

I went to college in CLT and would fly to CHI a lot. UA/US offered all sorts of connecting itineraries ORD-XXX-CLT, and they were frequently cheaper (or at least no more expensive) than flying nonstop. I did ORD-RDU-CLT to get on a ZW 146, but they also sold CMH, IND, DAY, and IAD, among others.



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User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 715 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

As a non-rev, I've flown UA between IAD and LAX via PHL, JFK, EWR, SAN, PHX, and most recently ABQ.

As a revenue pax, one Thanksgiving I flew Ted IAD-MSY-LAX courtesy of the cheapest itinerary on united.com. The two segments had two different flight numbers but it happened to be the same plane all the way through. There were probably 2 dozen people doing the same thing.

USA Today did an article on this a couple of years ago. I forget the exact number, but there's something like 10-15 possible one-stop connection options on UA between ORD and DEN alone and all of those midwest stations say they see several revenue pax a day simply connecting between the hubs.



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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

I have done DCA-ROC-SYR and PHL-BGM-SYR on US

I have also done SFO-BOS-LGA on a UA/US combo (ticketed by UA, US codeshare)

plenty of others I can't recall right now.

[Edited 2010-03-04 10:51:10]


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5935 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Do you ever plan an itinerary with a connection at a non-hub airport?

Once in a while if its cheaper I do....one of my last trips between Chicago and San Francisco on United routed me ORD-SNA-SFO. I also saw a few ORD-SAN-SFO listed on ual.com when I was booking my flight.



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User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

I've never actually booked an itinerary like that, but I have noticed CO's website often offers connections through spokes for hub-to-hub routings, like IAH-RDU-EWR or IAH-BNA-EWR. It was actually a few dollars more for the connection vs. just going IAH-EWR, and while it was a little tempting to connect through my former home airport (RDU), I decided I would much rather take the nonstop option on a 762 than spend hours on ERJs.

I also once met a man who was connecting in SMF on UA. If I remember correctly his itinerary was IND-DEN-SMF-SFO-CEC


User currently offlinejflchantha From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 124 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Ive never done it, but B6 does this alot from BOS and JFK. Also, Austin is a non hub.

While working at JAX I bumped into someone who flew a connection through our airport, we arnt a place where this happens alot.


User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

With AirTran, if you're flying BOS-ATL or reverse, you can go nonstop or choose a stop in Baltimore, Milwaukee the first two focus cities, but also choose Akron or Newport News, VA if you wanted to try something different.

If they launched ABE-BOS which would be nice, and timed the connection they could add Allentown. But I'm thinking they'd need atleast 2 ABE-BOS flights,and reverse and 2 ABE-ATLs, and reverse, likely to get flight where 1 connection is possible each way.

I think WN uses PHL a middle station between MHT, PVD to cities south or west of PHL.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11638 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Too many times to mention in various forms, and with different airlines normally - including LCCs. Out of probably 200 flights taken in this manor I've only had two misconnections. Ironically they have all been ones with very long connection times, so they should have been no problem had the airlines not buggered about with the schedules.

06:00-07:35 KBP-SIP - WizzAir Ukraine
08:00-09:50 SIP-LWO - WizzAir Ukraine
14:40-15:40 LWO-KBP - AeroSvit

All was well until AeroSvit brought their flight forwards to 10ish, but this was notified in advance so I didn't take the whole trip and flew straight back from SIP to KBP.


06:40-09:00 STN-BRE - Ryanair
21:40-00:40 LBC-KBP - WizzAir Ukraine

I should be taking this trip in early April. As I'd allowed over 12 hours to travel about 150km between Bremen and Lubeck I thought that would be more than enough to fit some sightseeing in too. Then WizzAir threw me a massive 55 hour schedule change. I've yet to be informed by them; I found out purely by chance and rebooked straight away on Air Baltic.


Dan  



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User currently offlineAirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

It seems like UA is starting to do that you search for Saver awards flights.

I thought about flying from ACV to AVL later this month and the website recommended ACV-SMF-DEN-COS-ORD-AVL and ACV-SMF-DEN-OMA-ORD-AVL. Leave at 5:30am and arrive in AVL around 10pm. Ugh.....

After some research, I decided to take a train trip. For $595, I have a roomette (sleeper car) on the California Zephyr from Chicago to Emeryville, CA. Spend the night in Oakland then I catch a Capitol Corridor train to Martinez and an Amtrak bus home to Arcata. I cashed in miles to fly UA to ORD. There was one ACV-SFO-ORD flight available at the saver level but it got into ORD around 1am. So I chose ACV-SFO-MSP-ORD. The SFO-MSP and MSP-ORD flights are both on A319's with a 40 minute connection so I figure it is the same aircraft. But I decided to connect to the next flight to ORD which leaves MSP 40 minutes later. It was on a E70 and I have never been on an E Jet yet, so I chose that option. I get into ORD at 7:08pm.



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

On AA I have done LAX-MIA via SFO and LAX-LGA via BNA.


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2701 times:
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On AA: MIA-RDU-BOS, MIA-RDU-DCA, MIA-DCA-BOS, MIA-DCA-JFK/LGA, ORD-OMA-DFW, etc.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 8):
LCCs do so even if they have the reputation of point-to-point connections !

LH often includes connections via non-hubs in their system. For example, in addition to theiir 8 daily GVA-FRA and 6 daily to MUC, they also have 3 daily GVA-DUS and 2 daily GVA-HAM. The DUS and HAM flights often make good connection but you probably wouldn't think of them if they didn't appear in their schedule displays.


User currently offlineSlcDeltaRUmd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3414 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

I have flown JFK-DEN-SLC a few times on DL because it was easier to get. No issues at all even with checked luggage. I did fly ewr-den-slc once with continental to delta and my luggage didn't make unfortunitely

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