Airport From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 1397 posts, RR: 9 Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 39519 times:
Hello all!
I have a weird fascination with the renderings of airliners that manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, etc.) make whenever an airline orders aircraft. You know, whenever XXX airline orders 20 XXXs how in the press release there is usually an artist's concept? I love those! Even moreso, I love looking back at renderings that never came to be, whether it was because of a change in color schemes, or if the airline went defunct, or the aircraft design changed. I'm compiling a photo album of them and would appreciate all the help I could get!
(I only mention Boeing because they seem to have them more accessible than anyone else. I welcome all official manufacturer renderings, including Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, Dornier, Fokker, etc. etc.)
Here's what I got so far...
AirTran -- 737-700 in the old colors
ATA -- 737-800 & 757-300 in the old colors
Alaska Airlines -- 747-100
ANA -- 7E7
Boeing -- 717-300
Ethiopian Airlines -- 737-800 & 767-300 in the old colors
Hawaiian Air -- 717-200 in the old colors
Jet Airways -- 777-300 in the old colors
Midwest Express -- 717 in the old colors
Midwest Airlines -- 737-800 (is this a Boeing rendering?)
Northwest Airlines -- 787
Pakistan Airlines -- 777s in the old colors
Primaris Airlines -- 737-800 & 7E7 (787) -- went defunct
SAS -- 737-600 old colors
TWA -- A318
I'd love to build on this list if any of you have official manufacturer aircraft renderings of airliners that never were or never came to be. When Delta ordered the 737-800, were there any renderings of them in the widget livery? Where there any renderings of MD-90s in the Alaska Airlines livery when they ordered a whole bunch in the early 90s? Continental A340s? etc. etc.
Daysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 800 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 39489 times:
That really is the most amazing looking aircraft... I wish it had turned out like that....
And the Alaska image is surprising as I would have thought they only existed after CAD, which would mean post 777.
I was reading a thread last week in which someone mentioned models of production frames but in the colours of airlines which never operated them - I persumed that would have been part of the sales pitch before renderings.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2669 posts, RR: 59 Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 39360 times:
Airport,
Great topic! I'd love to see if A.netters can get a collection going. For my part, I followed the 777 from day 1, including collecting a large volume of news paper clippings, either from local papers, or from the now-defunct Boeing News. Looking thru, I have:
United (old colors)
Euralair
Cathay Pacific (old colors)
Japan Air System (old colors)
South African Airways (old colors)
I'll see what I can do about making scans of these. I'll warn you now, tho, all but the last one is B&W paper copy, so the quality will be poor, to say the least. . .
srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16896 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 39239 times:
Valujet MD-95:
By the time the first one was delivered, both the airline and the a/c had changed names.
Airport From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 1397 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 39017 times:
Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 1): I was reading a thread last week in which someone mentioned models of production frames but in the colours of airlines which never operated them - I persumed that would have been part of the sales pitch before renderings.
Ooh, I'm glad you mentioned that.
For those out there that have photos of official manufacturer models that never came to be, feel free to post those too.
I believe I remember reading that there are several large scale models of Alaska MD-90s at the corporate offices that McDonnell Douglas gifted when they ordered them.
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 2): Great topic! I'd love to see if A.netters can get a collection going. For my part, I followed the 777 from day 1, including collecting a large volume of news paper clippings, either from local papers, or from the now-defunct Boeing News. Looking thru, I have:
United (old colors)
Euralair
Cathay Pacific (old colors)
Japan Air System (old colors)
South African Airways (old colors)
I'll see what I can do about making scans of these. I'll warn you now, tho, all but the last one is B&W paper copy, so the quality will be poor, to say the least. . .
That would be most excellent!!!!
If you could scan those and post em here, regardless of the quality, that would be fantastic! I would really appreciate it.
Quoting srbmod (Reply 3): By the time the first one was delivered, both the airline and the a/c had changed names.
Awesome, thank you!
Maybe I'll set up some kind of website to compile some of these, a la the old Old and Abandoned Terminals website. Nothing fancy, just a database where people can come and add them.
Here's another rendering of a TWA 717. This was realized, built, flown, and operated; but I thought it was a cool picture to look at, so I'm posting it for kicks.
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5566 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 38917 times:
chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1796 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 38892 times:
YXwatcherMkE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 802 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 38849 times:
I remember going to the old RC(Republic Airlines) HQ offices in MSP in the mid 1980's for an interview and seeing a renderings for a 747 and a DC-10 on a wall near the main doors. I remember wanting to take a picture of them and I was told that I could not do so. But I was told that RC would be flying the 747 in 18 months. Well NW took over RC before that came true.
I miss the 60's & 70's when you felt like a guest on the plane not cattle like today
Flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2864 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 38681 times:
I always loved this rendering of a TWA Concorde... wish we'd have gotten to see it!
Flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2864 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 38663 times:
Another one I came across, this one for a Lufthansa version of the ill-fated Fairchild Dornier 728JET...
FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 38573 times:
Those are some really cool pictures. I remember seeing the ATA ones in the old colors when they initially made that order too!!!
etstar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 38477 times:
Quoting Airport (Thread starter): Ethiopian Airlines -- 737-800 & 767-300 in the old colors
That picture is one of Ethiopian's B737-700 and B767-300. While the latter was delivered and operated in the old livery, the former was not.
I recall seeing the first of 767s from that order at Everett while on a tour, which was a huge and pleasant surprise on a tour that was not even planned to happen.
N901WA From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 389 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 38377 times:
I found this one in a Trash Bin, after the Western Merger. Its a 737-300. I also had a L-1011 in a Indian Head Western Artist drawing, but I can seen to find it.
YXwatcherMkE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 802 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 36257 times:
Quoting Trijetsonly (Reply 17): Boeing Pelican
2005 concept, Range 10.000nm, top speed 300kt, first "flight" 2020
What was the idea for this ugly duck?
I miss the 60's & 70's when you felt like a guest on the plane not cattle like today
It was going to be a ground effect military transport. It would have skimmed the water at about 25-50 feet allowing it to take advantage of "ground effect," which would have significantly reduced induced drag. According to wikipedia it would have had a payload of 1,400 tons, which if true, is absolutely astonishing. That would have been like 6-7 times the payload of a C-5.
25 KingFriday013: I have a book with pictures of a MD-11X, 747-500/600, A3XX (with hairdryer engines!), and more. If I can find a scanner I'll try my best to scan it fo
26 WestWing: Air India 777-200LR, 777-300ER, 787-8 in "Your Palace in the Sky" livery (the 737-800 for AI Express is correct). Also, the following - not just rende
27 RoseFlyer: You can tell how much technology has changed from the mid 90s since that picture is horrendously distorted.
29 WestWing: The OP is taking is about manufacturer renderings after an order was placed, not the wild imaginations of the contributors to MAP and similar sites.
30 DfwRevolution: Airbus AE31X regional jet Boeing 7J7 Boeing 767X "Humpback" MD-94X MD DC-XX
31 mayor: Or this (as long as we're taking this into fanciful renderings):
32 Braniff747SP: It's not a drawing, but PA did order Concordes, I believe 50 of them. Don't quote me on that, please.
33 tdscanuck: C-wing: 7J7: Ring-wing: I can't even attempt to explain this: Supersonic BBJ: Other Supersonic BBJ: Boeing Clipper - 1000+ seats: C-wing meets the BWB
38 UnitedFA07: I had read that UA had orders too, would have been cool to see.
39 AAairplane: The original A350 was very nice looking, though it was much less futuristic looking than the current aircraft. I would not have been sad if the origi
40 TZTriStar500: As a former TZ employee, I'm very familiar with this one. Since it was such a huge order and announcement for TZ, there where dozens of large posters
41 srbmod: Early to mid 1980s. Boeing canceled it in 1987. I've seen mentions of it having 2+2+2 seating and even mentions of it being a single aisle 3+3. The p
42 burnsie28: Thats a painful and sad one to see on the list
43 AirbusA6: The BAC311, another one of those British might have beens...
44 Jacobin777: Maybe you can care to explain what these were? Actual orders?
45 Stitch: Well the Boeing 2707 did have a decent chunk of airline commitments per Wikipedia. And AA's CEO stated he planned to buy the first hundred or so Soni
46 YXwatcherMkE: Not as painful it was to see when NW bought out Republic Airlines in 1986. I think the Management of NW saw the writing on the wall of RC (Boeing 747
47 Airport: Well, I did intend for it to be only manufacturer renderings, simply because there's a bazillion different unofficial renderings of aircraft out there
48 Jambrain: How about any bizarre engine concepts, any out there from Boeing? There must be a different perspective on the the engine cowl, how about a oval shape
49 Crosscheck007: Went to V Australia instead: Cheers, 007
50 Airport: Good call! I had been looking for that one for a while now and forgot about it.
51 n5014k: I can't put my hands on them, but I have three renderings from the days of the local service airlines: Lake Central 737 Lake Central 727 (the only evi
52 tdscanuck: I'm not really following you...why couldn't it fly? The laws of aerodynamics don't change just because you move the hump aft. All the stuff I posted
53 2707200X: Check out these concepts! http://www.twitt.org/bldwing.htm http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n3.htm
54 VC10er: This may be the best thread ever!!!! All my liitle boy in me is hyperventaling! One fantasy I have always had is about when we will fly on non-fossil
55 Viscount724: Pacific Air Lines took delivery of 3 727-100s in 1966-67.They were in Pacific livery until lthe 1968 merger with Bonanza and West Coast to form Air W
56 milesrich: Were all the 737-347's delivered in the bare fuselage scheme? I think I flew in 1987 on a 737-347 from LAX to LAS in the WA white livery with a Delta
57 Eagleboy: Thank God it didn't.......that is an ugly plane.
58 N901WA: Hi milesrich. Yea the 347's were all Delivered in the Bud Light scheme. I was lucky enough to be there when the first 347's came in from Boeing. Must
59 devilfish: But this one remains my favorite..... http://www.theairlineblog.com/wp-con...300_concept_with_three_engines.jpg
61 rleiro: Well, I have here some from my collection: Aserca DC-9-32 in Barranquilla featuring the c/s of Aserca Peugeot Livery. Unfortunately, the contract was
62 VC10er: Ac3 engine 747! I had no idea!!!! How far did Boeing get with this type? Any bites from an airline?
63 Stitch: It was designed to compete with the L-1011 and DC-10, but garnered insufficient interest to go forward.
64 Daysleeper: Now that would be cool to see. I have no idea why, but even after looking at 744's and DC9s in the Bowling Shoe livery I'm still unable to picture an
65 devilfish: Neither had I until I saw it here on A.net and thought it was photoshopped. The accompanying caption explains why it was not pursued..... http://www.
66 Jacobin777: True, but still no actual orders... ....and you also know how close QF were for pulling the B77W trigger...
67 AZA330: On the Boeing website there is still a rendering of an Alitalia 747-400. Alitalia had apparently purchased 5 of these, but then converted the order in
68 Transpac787: I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Lockheed L-2000 yet. I believe that was a VERY early rendering for the XB-70 Valkyrie project and escort fighte
70 Stitch: Ah, the original Boeing 777 concept, circa 1977: I still have color stills of that model, the T-tail 757 concept and the 767 concept (both also from 1
72 BMI727: Both the 2707 and Concorde made enough of a splash to give the 747 its hump.
73 N14AZ: At the beginning of the 90's, Aero Lloyd was planning to introduce the MD 11 to their fleet. Source: http://www.md-80.net/ambitionen_von_aero_lloyd.ht
75 VC10er: Exactly why did the sonic cruiser bomb so fast in favor of the 7E7? It seems as it would have been the first ac to not look like a 707/767/757/A330/7
76 BMI727: Airlines and passengers aren't really willing to pay for speed. Efficiency was more attractive to the airlines.
77 BlueSky1976: Yes, they did. I remember seeing one in Aviation Week. Ayres never produced the prototype of L610 - Let did that well prior to their aquisition by Ay
79 Stitch: 11.09.2001 / 09.11.2001 That and the Tech Boom becoming the Tech *BOOM*. All the people jetting across the country and between continents in First Cl
81 FlyCaledonian: From Kev's MD-11 site: - Air Europe MD-11 complete with Rolls Royce Trent engines! British Caledonian MD-11. Not taken up after the BA takeover and th
82 2707200X: A coke bottle airliner http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/Concept2Reality/graphics/fig037.jpg An '80s Boeing SST http://adg.stanford.edu/aa241/intro/images
83 Delta763: Brilliant! I always thought there should have been a commercial version of the C-5. At least we know Lockheed considered it.
84 DocLightning: The other thing is that the sonic cruiser didn't have the dramatic speed required to justify the increased costs. It's one thing if you're going to m
86 devilfish: Going over to the business jet side, I think Aerion's SSBJ still hasn't made it past the model stage until now?..... http://www.ameinfo.com/138508.htm
88 NC1844V: What a great thread...Its really neat to see what Boeing and some of the other company's were dreaming off back in the day.
89 Icebird757: Somewhere in my slide collection I have about 15 artist drawings of the MD-11 with airlines that never came to be. I also have a slide of the 777 in t
90 n5014k: I apologize...I guess I wasn't clear. I meant the 737. Pacific leased the 727's, I believe, while waiting for the 737's to be delivered.
93 AirframeAS: I remember the large, life like scale models that AS had in the Corporate Office, but they were not M90's. There were 734's and M80's.
94 luv2cattlecall: How does this differ from the A318? Looks rather similar to me. Can someone located in the Netherlands check on Keesje? I have a feeling that he had
95 2707200X: Airbus Concepts http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up...oads/2009/04/concept_planes_11.jpg Box and Circular Wing http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up..
96 VC10er: In another thread we discussed how unlikely a return of VARIG would be...but what if it had only V shaped long- haul aircraft? Maybe then!
97 Bureaucromancer: Ugh, the proportions of the A380-900 are indescribably better than the 800s.
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