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CO Moves To DIA Concourse B  
User currently offlineyazoo From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8262 times:

Continental Airlines today announced that it will move its Denver operations from Concourse A to Concourse B at Denver International Airport, effective March 9. In addition, the Presidents Club located in Concourse A will close, effective March 16. Presidents Club and Star Alliance Gold members and BusinessFirst customers traveling on international flights will have convenient access to the United Airlines Red Carpet Clubs located in Concourse B.

http://empirestatefx.com/airtravel/c...b-at-denver-international-airport/

[Edited 2010-03-08 10:07:31]


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User currently offlineBRJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

Did they add customs facilities to concourse B or do UA international flights arrival at concourse A? Seems like it would make sense to move LH to concourse B as well if equip with customs.

User currently offlineSeatback From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 756 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8132 times:

So what will be the gate allocations for concource A and C, now that US Airways is leaving C?

User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8060 times:

"B" is going to be a flagship STAR concourse. It will be nice to see everyone on the same concourse, now we just need to get a secure way to move people to customs so that we can have LH and soon ANA join us!


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User currently offlineFlyNTE From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8052 times:

Quoting BRJ (Reply 1):
Did they add customs facilities to concourse B or do UA international flights arrival at concourse A?

DEN has 8 gates that feed into the FIS facilities... all the gates are on Concourse A. Although the addition of new gates to feed into the FIS facility are in the long-term plans, there are no immediate plans to do so. But when it happens, it's planned for Concourse A, not B or C. LH could deplane on A and tug over to B to load, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. Transiting between A and B is easy, and is all on the secure side.


Quoting Seatback (Reply 2):
So what will be the gate allocations for concource A and C, now that US Airways is leaving C?

Once US moves, Concourse C will be home to WN, DL and AA. Concourse B will be UA, CO and US and Concourse A will be everyone else.


User currently offlinejmy007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7868 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 3):
"B" is going to be a flagship STAR concourse. It will be nice to see everyone on the same concourse, now we just need to get a secure way to move people to customs so that we can have LH and soon ANA join us!

Does this mean Air Canada will be moving back to B as well?



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3923 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7792 times:
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Quoting jmy007 (Reply 5):
Does this mean Air Canada will be moving back to B as well?

highly unlikely. Unless they get a new ground handler to handle their flights in B. They wont have UA touch their planes again if UA paid them to do so! That was the reason why they left. Terrible ground handling by UA.



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7718 times:

Quoting FlyNTE (Reply 4):

Once US moves, Concourse C will be home to WN, DL and AA.

Word has it that AA is moving to CO's vacated space on the A concourse.


User currently offlineSlimShady From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7553 times:

It makes me very sad that the P-Club is closing, I used to go there 10-12 times a year... Now we have to go to the worthless UA club where we have to PAY for internet and cocktails. I loved going into the lounge, having a couple cocktails while checking e-mails, etc.....one of the things that differentiates CO from UA/AA. Another step backwards for CO... makes me sad.

User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7473 times:

Quoting SlimShady (Reply 8):
Now we have to go to the worthless UA club where we have to PAY for internet and cocktails.

I thought CO President Club members would be able to get free WiFi access along with chits for free booze while at the UA RCC since a CO rep will be on hand at the designated or both RCC's at B.

Actually did a day trip to DEN and experienced both RCC's and the PC. The PC was rather disappointing and not like what it used to be when it was still a huge lounge prior to BA starting service to DEN. Will say was rather impressed with both RCC's at B because of size and layout. Didn't quite care for the lack of free booze.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8892 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7419 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 9):
I thought CO President Club members would be able to get free WiFi access along with chits for free booze while at the UA RCC since a CO rep will be on hand at the designated or both RCC's at B.

Free wi-fi yes, did not know about the chits. Hopefully that is true; otherwise that will be a significant degradation of the lounge experience in DEN (I would frequently go over to A to have a free Dos Equis instead of pay for beer in the Red Rug rooms).

Also, the breakfast options in the RCCs were not anywhere near as good as what CO offered in A.


User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2065 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7358 times:

Quoting FlyNTE (Reply 4):
LH could deplane on A and tug over to B to load, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. Transiting between A and B is easy, and is all on the secure side.

It is far worse at ORD where LH, UA and others arrive at T5 for customs and then they taxi or tow the plane all the way to T1 for departures. DEN has far fewer intercontinental flights and Concourses A & B are comparatively close.

The real question will be what will happen when the economy picks up again and A & B get crowded. B is not fully utilized but it cannot be expanded anymore. A has some room to grow as well as C but the current DEN administration is moving away from the original plan to add additional concourses, saying that it would put too much strain on the rail system. Instead they are looking at demolishing one of the parking structures flanking the terminal and building a concourse there, connected to the great hall by bridge or tunnel.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8892 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7326 times:

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 11):
The real question will be what will happen when the economy picks up again and A & B get crowded. B is not fully utilized but it cannot be expanded anymore.

B has room for expansion on the west side of the concourse - it can be built out all the way out to the taxiway (right now, there are some de-icing pads there, but that's it and can easily be placed elsewhere).

Continental will be using gates that can only handle 737s as well - given that United no longer flies the 737, E-Jets/CRJs would have had to park there (away from where all the UAX operations are), or park Airbuses there and close off adjacent gates.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7246 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 12):
Continental will be using gates that can only handle 737s as wel

CO needs 757 gates at DEN, and operates 767 flights rather frequently as equipment subs. Perhaps this is why they are taking over 4 gates on the B concourse, up from 3 on A? If the gates are only 737 size, an adjacent gate would have to be blocked when larger aircraft come in.


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7187 times:

Just out of curiousity, what gates are US and CO using in Concourse B at DEN? Shame to see the Pres Club close however, not to mention the convenience of Lorenzo's Bridge (can't believe it actually helps, but when you don't have to use the tram it's nice).


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User currently offlineFlyNTE From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7145 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 14):
Just out of curiousity, what gates are US and CO using in Concourse B at DEN? Shame to see the Pres Club close however, not to mention the convenience of Lorenzo's Bridge (can't believe it actually helps, but when you don't have to use the tram it's nice).

CO will be using gates B16, B18 and B20 - on the east end of B. I'm not sure which gates US will be using.

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 12):
B has room for expansion on the west side of the concourse

B can be expanded to both the east and the west.

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 7):
Word has it that AA is moving to CO's vacated space on the A concourse.

Yes, I've heard that, too.


User currently offlineairfrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 42
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

This has been reported many times on the frontier threads. The goal is absolutly to create a "STAR experience" in B. This is part of a global marketing effort. The city is getting ready to announce the "preferred alternative" for a 1 billion dollar expansion of the airport. As part of that expansion, they almost certainly will be laying the groundwork for a new concourse at the airport.

Until that happens, A will remain Frontier/Midwest, B will remain Star, and C will more or less be Southwest. The airport is keen to keep the carriers segregated in different concourses to prevent monopolization of the airport by a single carrier ala ATL and DL.

The new directory of the Airport is putting the kibosh on the old expansion plan for A, B and C to minimize runway disruptions, so it's unknown how much expansion will occur at the airfield.

Quoting BRJ (Reply 1):
Did they add customs facilities to concourse B or do UA international flights arrival at concourse A? Seems like it would make sense to move LH to concourse B as well if equip with customs.

Star Alliance is trying to create a consistent branding experience across all of the major international gateways. That includes DEN. They have mooted the idea of tugging the plane over, but there is also a idea that they may try to retrofit new international gates on B, and have a dedicated train that ferries only to the FIS service in the main terminal. I don't think it's all that likely, but if it is going to occur, it should be announced around the 16th of March, when the director gives it's "state of the airport" annual report.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24785 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6980 times:

United received $12.5mil cash and $15mil in rental savings from the City to make temprorary room(6-years) for CO and US on 5-gates on Concourse-B until the airport comes up with a long term solution.

Full story;
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_13715258



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User currently offlineFlyNTE From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6944 times:

Quoting FlyNTE (Reply 15):
CO will be using gates B16, B18 and B20 - on the east end of B.

To further clarify - CO will also be using B22, but that gate techically belongs to United. CO is only leasing three gates on B.


User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1537 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6840 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 12):
Continental will be using gates that can only handle 737s as well

Not true. The 738 is longer and has a wider wingspan than the A320. These gates can definitely handle both.



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User currently offlineBlueF9A320 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6774 times:

Aren't these gates 757 capable as well?

If I recall these are the gates that had the dual boarding bridges and one happened to collapse onto the wing on a UA 757.



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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3103 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6745 times:

Interesting to note that Concourse A was originally planned for CO's DEN hub. Frontier 1.0 ceased before DIA was in design.

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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1578 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6588 times:

What is Continental going to do when they sub in a 762 or a 764 into Denver? The gates at the end of Concourse B cannot accommodate a widebody aircraft.


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User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1357 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6504 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 19):
Not true. The 738 is longer and has a wider wingspan than the A320. These gates can definitely handle both.

United never operated the 738, so maybe the poster is suggesting gates that only fit the 737-300 &-500?

Which doesn't seem too useful to CO either, since they only have a small number (30ish) of 733s and 735s left, and they have winglets (so they may not fit too?).


User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6369 times:
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Quoting ADent (Reply 23):
United never operated the 738, so maybe the poster is suggesting gates that only fit the 737-300 &-500?

Which doesn't seem too useful to CO either, since they only have a small number (30ish) of 733s and 735s left, and they have winglets (so they

He never said or implied UA had 738s. Was staing that, in rebuttel to reply #12, that the gates they will use can handel CO's 738s and that the 738 is overall bigger wingspan than UA A320s, so the said gates can handle both UA A320s as well as CO 738s.



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25 Post contains links JPuentes : I currently work in concourse B and think that it would be great considering that half the time the gates are empty. and in regards to expansion i thi
26 USPIT10L : Thanks. I just checked the airports section of the US site. I noticed B16, B18 and B20 are on the westernmost end of Concourse B. Would US be getting
27 Post contains images Transpac787 : UA voluntarily gave up that contract, not the other way around. It was UA who doesn't want to handle AC, not AC wanting to find another handler This
28 FlyNTE : My mistake - the CO gates are on the west end of B (not the east end). And it is my understanding now that US will have B15 and B17 - not sure about
29 CBPhoto : That's the rumor I have heard as well! It makes sense, as it will put them right next to AS (who they code share with) and in the same terminal as BA
30 N1120A : UA still handle AC at some airports (BOS comes to mind) and even if it was US handling AC, it would still be better in B. Block gates? Swap a gate fo
31 Brick : Possibly. But what about during irregular ops? Late flights, ATC holds, weather, and etc could fill all CO operated gates up. Can't. CO has their com
32 apodino : Actually UA does not handle AC in BOS anymore. AC is now handled by US in BOS in Terminal B. I don't buy AA moving to A just yet. Frontier/Midwest I
33 Post contains links commavia : Anecdotal, of course, but over on FlyerTalk, an AA FF relates talking to an AA agent in DEN on Tuesday who apparently confirmed to this individual th
34 N1120A : I did not know that. Is it possible to use a laptop and a mobile printer for emergencies? Park at a deicing pad and pull up stairs and a bus? I'm sur
35 apodino : CUTE would solve the problem in a hurry. Look at LAS for a great example of how it works.
36 aznmadsci : The old PC at DEN had seemed to have shrunk over time. You mentioned the possibility of AA opening up a club using the space occupied by the PC. Part
37 FlyingSicilian : used the new gates today. Not a fan. much longer walk, but oh well.
38 Post contains links commavia : Seems like precisely what will happen. On a related note, another poster over at FlyerTalk today related a similar discussion this morning with a cou
39 Brick : B16 is the widebody gate for CO. I noticed on Monday there is a stop line for "767-400" and "767-200" at this gate. It looks like the jet bridge was m
40 ytib : Saw that last week as well. There are now two lines B16 and B16W where are both freshly painted. The lines are also on an angle while all the other g
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