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Why No Connection From The Middle East To HKT/PEN?

gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 2512 posts, RR: 13
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

Hi Everyone!

I was wondering why no Middle Eastern airlines (mainly Qatar Airways, but also Emirates/Etihad) don't offer connections to Phuket (HKT) and Penang (PEN). HKT seems to have quite a lot of longhual flights to Europe (mainly Germany and Scandinavia), and MH used to fly LHR-KUL with a stopover in PEN for tourists, but no longer has any long hauls. Could QR make a DOH-HKT-PEN routing work, maybe on their A319 LR? Are there any other cities in SE Asia that QR could expand to? Didn't they use to fly the A319 DOH-RGN?

Thanks for your thoughts

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ytz From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1444 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

To be crude, how many Muslim countries are connected to sin cities? Is there a connection from the Middle East to Vegas?

Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

QR and EY only have a finite number of A319s that are a bit difficult to free up. HKT and PEN are both lower-yielding routes and any entrant will be competing with discounted economy fares. The closest thing to HKT and PEN is DPS, served by QR using the A330, via SIN, so it's not impossible, but very unlikely. The ME airlines have shown little interest in serving secondary SEAsian markets.

airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6890 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

Quoting ytz (Reply 1):
To be crude, how many Muslim countries are connected to sin cities? Is there a connection from the Middle East to Vegas?

Not so much crude as much as ignorant. Not only do I fail to see why Penang and /or Phuket would be labeled as "sin city" but both Malaysia and Indonesia are Muslim countries and both have non-stop flights, not only to Penang and Phuket but also the the bigest gambling city in the World: Macau.

ANstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Quoting ytz (Reply 1):
To be crude, how many Muslim countries are connected to sin cities? Is there a connection from the Middle East to Vegas?

Um are you saying Penang is a sin city.... Penang is IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY!

Quoting airbazar (Reply 3):
Not so much crude as much as ignorant.

+1 from me.

mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6181 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 3):
Not only do I fail to see why Penang and /or Phuket would be labeled as "sin city" but both Malaysia and Indonesia are Muslim countries and both have non-stop flights, not only to Penang and Phuket but also the the bigest gambling city in the World: Macau.

LOL... exactly... if "sin" is a factor, then one would wonder why Malaysia have a casino in Genting... plus both the capitals of Indonesia and Malaysia have direct flights to the region's capital of sin... Macau????

Directorguy basically sums it up... but I'll add a more simplistic answer... it's not just the volume that counts, but also the yields. There's no point in having to fill up all your aircraft with an average fare of US$20 per seat hour...

Mandala499

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travelexec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

Quoting ytz (Reply 1):
To be crude, how many Muslim countries are connected to sin cities? Is there a connection from the Middle East to Vegas?

Many muslim countries have direct flights to Dubai.

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