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Where Is/Will DL Be Using The DC-9?  
User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 917 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7470 times:

Good Evening A.netters,
I'm taking a trip around mid-summer timeframe and am also an avid DC-9 lover. I was wondering, with all of the fleet and schedule changes DL has been making, which hub city would I be able to see the most DC-9s? Is it still DTW? I had heard they were going to utilize them in ATL as well. Any info would be great. Thanks.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7588 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7419 times:

DC-9's are all still primarily flying their traditional routes from DTW, MSP, and MEM.

There will be some limited ATL DC-9 flying this summer, but it on aircraft and pilots bridged in from the other hubs.
ATL-DAY, FNT, GRR, and CLT will see DC-9's on some frequencies starting over the next few months.

DL is pulled A319/A320 off of many of the shorter routes out of DTW and MSP and put DC-9's on such flights were feasible.
For the most part, the DC-9 is continuing in the same role as pre-merger in the forseeable future.


User currently offlineSKYMILER From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7326 times:

Took a DC-9/40 JAX -> DTW last week.

Great flight -- and good equipment sizing for that route.



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User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7237 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 1):
There will be some limited ATL DC-9 flying this summer, but it on aircraft and pilots bridged in from the other hubs.
ATL-DAY

They are bringing the DC-9 back to DAY? Oh man I wished I still worked there! The last time I saw a DC-9 in DAY on a scheduled flight was I think 2000-'01? Whenever the last years for the -10 were. Speaking of the -10 series, is ANY carrier still operating those nowadays?



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User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7191 times:

A F/A friend of mine based in MEM told me they are pulling most of the DC-9 flying out of MEM. She is of the opinion that in the near future they will pull mainline out of MEM. Would make sense to me too since they pulled the contract MX out of there and MEM is already pretty heavy RJ with which both Pinnacle and Mesaba have their own MX in MEM. Would be interesting to see if they did do that what would happen to the AMS flight.


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User currently offlinevctony From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7018 times:

It wouldn't surprise me. DL seems focused on ATL, DTW, JFK, LGA, MSP, SLC, and SEA for the time being. With LAX as a secondary focus. MEM doesn't really fit into the "big picture" and neither does CVG.

[Edited 2010-03-09 20:27:22]

User currently offlineslcpdxatl From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6985 times:

Quoting vctony (Reply 5):

I believe you mean SLC rather than STL


User currently offlinesasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6981 times:

Saw a couple traveling through BDL this weekend, not sure if that helps your quest!

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7588 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6946 times:

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 4):
A F/A friend of mine based in MEM told me they are pulling most of the DC-9 flying out of MEM.

This is true, but even as of now most of the DC-9 flying is to/from DTW and MSP. By the summer the only DC-9 flying out of MEM left will be DTW, MSP, ATL, ORD, TPA, MCO. This also coincides with the draw-down of the DC-9-30/40's by October.

Although MEM will get a 738 from DTW and ATL, plus an MD-88 from ATL and LGA.

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 4):
She is of the opinion that in the near future they will pull mainline out of MEM. Would make sense to me too since they pulled the contract MX out of there and MEM is already pretty heavy RJ with which both Pinnacle and Mesaba have their own MX in MEM. Would be interesting to see if they did do that what would happen to the AMS flight.

They are not going to pull mainline. What is left mainline, pretty much has to stay mainline as long as MEM is considered a hub. Right now mainline is down to DTW, MSP, ATL, ORD, SEA, SFO (seasonal), LAX, SAN (seasonal), PHX, TPA, MCO, FLL, MIA, PBI, CUN, DCA, LGA, AMS. They can easily route those aircraft to/thru/over other hubs for maintenance.

Keep in mind there is also a sizable CR9/E75 2-class 76 seater flying out of MEM to other key destinations like DEN, DFW, JFK, SLC, CLT, PHL, BOS, etc.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6879 times:

MSY CURRENT
DTW-MSY x 2 (CR9/D93)
MEM-MSY x 3 (D95)
MSP-MSY x 1 (D93)


CHANGING TO
DTW-MSY x 2 (319/D93)
MEM-MSY x 3 (D95/CR9/D95)
MSP-MSY x 1 (320)

so have 5 DC-9's coming here now dropping to 3 later this month and April.



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User currently offlineBRJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6873 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 8):
This is true, but even as of now most of the DC-9 flying is to/from DTW and MSP. By the summer the only DC-9 flying out of MEM left will be DTW, MSP, ATL, ORD, TPA, MCO. This also coincides with the draw-down of the DC-9-30/40's by October.
Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 8):
They are not going to pull mainline. What is left mainline, pretty much has to stay mainline as long as MEM is considered a hub. Right now mainline is down to DTW, MSP, ATL, ORD, SEA, SFO (seasonal), LAX, SAN (seasonal), PHX, TPA, MCO, FLL, MIA, PBI, CUN, DCA, LGA, AMS. They can easily route those aircraft to/thru/over other hubs for maintenance.

MSY still sees D95 flights to/from Memphis and still shows D95 flights in late July.


User currently offlinevctony From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

Quoting slcpdxatl (Reply 6):
I believe you mean SLC rather than STL

Thanks. I edited the post.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6840 times:

JAX still sees DC-9s. My girlfriend flew JAX-DTW on a DC-9 a couple weeks ago. I'm scheduled on a DC-9 on RDU-DTW next week as part of my multi-city itinerary (DAB-ATL-RDU, RDU-DTW-FNT, DTW-ATL-DAB over Spring Break). I imagine DTW is your best bet.

Quoting c5load (Thread starter):
I had heard they were going to utilize them in ATL as well. Any info would be great. Thanks.

This is true. I was looking at schedules into FNT and saw some of the flights will be operated with DC-9s.

Quoting c5load (Reply 3):
The last time I saw a DC-9 in DAY on a scheduled flight was I think 2000-'01?

I'm pretty sure I remember looking at flight options in 2002 and seeing a DC-9 on DTW-DAY.


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6691 times:

[quote=PSU.DTW.SCE,reply=8]They are not going to pull mainline. What is left mainline, pretty much has to stay mainline as long as MEM is considered a hub. Right now mainline is down to DTW, MSP, ATL, ORD, SEA, SFO (seasonal), LAX, SAN (seasonal), PHX, TPA, MCO, FLL, MIA, PBI, CUN, DCA, LGA, AMS. They can easily route those aircraft to/thru/over other hubs for maintenance.[/quote

Well MEM never did any maintenance other than line mx. So if no write up ..no problem. My point was if they have more than just a couple of flights mainline they are taking a chance just using "on call maint" depending on who they are using. When I worked there we NW were on call for DL, US, AA and UA. But they never had anymore than a couple of flights in here so we were only called on once in a while. Good thing they are phasing out the DC-9 because even though their dispatch reliability is good they are old and I know from experience pilots will not take an autopilot on MEL or deferral on a DC-9 and the DC-9 autopilot is not all that reliable.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7588 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

There some other domestic, non-hub stations that see almost as many mainline flights as MEM that don't have maintenance.....see ORD, DEN, RDU, PHL, etc.

User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6643 times:

DL is retiring the DC -9-3 and -4. So some planes will be taken out of service.

I think MKE is still getting some DC9 ex MSP. A good plane for this route, no? But I remember the 757 on this route...that was fun!

I hope MEM doesn't go completely RJ......MEM would be a great location of the DC9. You get mainline, but not a huge plane.

I think DL is overbuilding ATL. MEM is a much more pleasant airport to change planes in, IMHO. I can see CVG and MEM being too much to close, esp with ATL and DTW next to each other. Oh well, we shall see.

Dave



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User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6558 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 14):
There some other domestic, non-hub stations that see almost as many mainline flights as MEM that don't have maintenance.....see ORD, DEN, RDU, PHL, etc.

You are probably right...But I can guarentee you that the pilots are not writing up problems because they know they will be stuck if there is no mx there..Happens all the time at every airline.



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User currently offlineMidway DC9-10 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6325 times:

I think MKE is still getting some DC9 ex MSP. A good plane for this route, no? But I remember the 757 on this route...that was fun!

Dave[/quote]

Yes, MKE is still getting some DC9 service. I was there last weekend and saw at least one DC9-50.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6156 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 14):
There some other domestic, non-hub stations that see almost as many mainline flights as MEM that don't have maintenance.....see ORD, DEN, RDU, PHL, etc

Doesn't Delta do some maintenance at some of those stations. I thought for sure they do light maintenance at RDU and PHL at the least..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6096 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 1):
ATL-DAY, FNT, GRR, and CLT will see DC-9's on some frequencies starting over the next few months.

CLT will also see a MD90 this summer as well



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5430 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6013 times:

There's another thread about DL DC-9s and the west coast that might be of interest to those on this thread:
DL DC-9 On West Coast (by fvyfireman Mar 9 2010 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlinelegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5927 times:

MKE still gets 3-4 DC-9 flights a day from MSP they will be in the 7300 flight numbers

Mark in MKE



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User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5815 times:

I flew BWI-MSP two Saturday's ago on a DC-9 and it was brilliant (I picked this itinerary specifically for the DC-9) When I got to the gate they had a -50 in Delta colors and a -30 or -40 (I forgot to figure out which) in NW colors and they had swapped the original -50 for the NW one b/c of the light load. This was my first time on a DC-9 (excluding MD-80s of course) and they were so well maintained and clean. Its so rare to fly on a 30(?) year old aircraft in the US. The funny part was the second leg MSP-SAN on an A320. The Airbus felt A LOT older than the DC-9 did.

-IR


User currently offlineTan Flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5796 times:

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 22):
The Airbus felt A LOT older than the DC-9 did.


Well..as they say..when they park the 320 in the desert, the crew WILL ferry home on a DC-9..built to last 2 lifetimes by craftsmen & women in Long Beach!!


User currently offlineatpcliff From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5615 times:

Hi!

Last I heard DAL/NWA was planning on keeping the DC-9-50s a long time. They ARE phasing out the -9-3X series.

USA Jet Airlines operates -9-10s and -14s. East African Safari Air Express does also, but you have to go to NBO to see them.

cliff
NBO



TRY. It's all you have control over, and it's what God wants.
25 PGNCS : It depends on the pilot and the situation. The DC-9 guys hand fly the aircraft more than any other fleet, and are generally quite comfortable doing s
26 FilAmAirlines : I think my airport MBS STILL has DC9 service monday to DTW
27 CV640 : The -9 still flies to many places. This month I know of MCI, STL, MYS, BWI, PHL, JFK, LGA, BNA, RDU, MKE, and more then I care to list. The latest wor
28 stratosphere : Actually I am more aware than you think.. In my 17 yrs working DC-9's at NW I have only had less than a handfull that accepted a pitch channel MEL on
29 compensateme : The DC-9-30/40 are heavily concentrated around DTW, while the -50 is split between DTW & MSP (with some MEM flying). With DL's upcoming schedule c
30 cessna2 : RDU already has them flying in regularly...
31 e38 : The DC9 30s and 40s are scheduled to be retired by October--possibly earlier--which will leave 34 DC9-50s in the fleet. I've heard that some of the se
32 United_fan : Sure wish they would bring back mainline to DTW in ROC with some 9's like they used to.
33 apodino : I flew from DTW-BOS on DL over the Christmas holiday. We were delayed because the pilot refused the airplane with no Autopilot. He explained to me th
34 USAirALB : Before the merger, we had 3x 319s and 320s (rotated) on the ALB-DTW. No its all RJs, but it looks like mainline will be making in the Spring. ALB-MSP
35 e38 : As an addition to the destinations served by the DC9 from Atlanta in April (reply 31), I think DC9s will also be used to New Orleans; Grand Rapids; Co
36 KingAir200 : Looks like it's gone by May. I've always thought that was an interesting addition anyway. Like you said, a 76 seat RJ might be a better choice for it
37 Post contains images nwaesc : "Interesting" is a rather diplomatic way of putting it...
38 PC12Fan : They are still coming in and out of STL rather frequently. It's good to still hear the old Pratts IMO.
39 katwspotter : She will be gone as of April 6th. I wish we were getting a -900.but the 9am Saab to MSP becomes a Skywest -200 then in May the DTW RON becomes a Chau
40 KingAir200 : Yeah, I mean, great for ATW to get a DC-9, but I'm still unsure of how a historically CRJ/SF3 city just gets a DC-9 all of a sudden.
41 burnsie28 : Yeah but now its "on-call" guys that are just horrific since they are not even at the airport, they sit at home until a call comes in, my dad had an
42 katwspotter : Cuz we are cool like that here? lol. I seriously do not know why they put that in our schedule either. I love working on it in the AM cuz im usually
43 Post contains images whooperatw : First time poster here, hopefully it goes well Just a comment I have observed about the DC-9 service into ATW. I travel for business out of ATW quite
44 CV640 : The ATW service has been fun, the layover is a little long at 32 hours but plenty of time to do nothing I guess. I didn't think it would last, I think
45 whooperatw : Yea, I could see that being a bit low. I would imagine they wanted to see if they could pick the loads up similiar to GRB, and the airport just cant h
46 KingAir200 : Do you guys have to push it for departure or can you just turn it out?
47 mayor : I'm slightly off topic, here, but anyway....... When I worked in SLC, pre WA merger, we had a midnight flight that went SLC-DEN-ATL with a 727. The f
48 DBQ : Thanks. After reading previous posts, I was beginning to wonder if I actually had seen a DC9 at MSY yesterday.
49 PSU.DTW.SCE : There is starting to be a little more clarity regarding the DC-9-30/40 retirement. With recent schedule uploads, it appears that the remainder of the
50 JBAirwaysFan : DL is going all mainline on ATL-GRR with 3x D95s in June. Frequency reduction but seat gain.
51 katwspotter : The airport built us a brand new jetbridge at the end of the terminal (Gate 7 which was formerly a strict hardstand gate) so we have plenty of room t
52 n7371f : Delta removed a DC-9-40 from storage in Marana in the past few weeks and it's in San Antonio undergoing a heavy check.
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