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United's New Uniforms; Is There A Peek?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2866 posts, RR: 10
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18142 times:
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Has UA issued a press release with images of Rowley's new design?
I am dying with curiosity what they will look like. UA back in the 1960's and 1970's had totally rockin' uniforms, I wonder if they have the stones to do something original and not a faux captains uniform like they do now, no dowdy house dresses or cartigans, even AA has the same! White gloves? Go go boots? Wild orange, red and blue neck ties for the boys with UA tulip cuff links!
Anyone have a clue yet?


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5232 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18117 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
no dowdy house dresses or cartigans

I must say that, IMHO, the current UA uniform dress is ugly.

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
even AA has the same

Now there's an airline in need of a uniform change. Their uniform is just so dowdy and old-fashioned.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18085 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
Has UA issued a press release with images of Rowley's new design?

I don't think its supposed to come out till next year.



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User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 17977 times:

I have to agree with the above poster- UAL has an awful cabin crew unifrom. It needs a makeover ASAP, what is up with the striped shirt. UAL has such a nice c/s-crisp and classy, but the ground and cabin crew need to be provided with something they can wear with pride.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 17896 times:

It is not finalized. It is going through trials with front line staff. Everyone does need new uniforms. Keeping modern is important. DL's uniforms are amazing and probably the best in the United States, so UA will have to catch up. However UA is a more conservative airline and will not have the big bold red that DL has even though the three biggest airlines in the US have the same color scheme: Red, White and Blue.


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User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 17895 times:

And here is hoping that they simply won't go with the cheapest option! Something as mentioned above that is crisp, stylish (thus inline with their branding) and also practical to wear, for all shapes and sizes!

Furthermore I hope that this creates a new sense of pride in their employees presentation and grooming, with a substantial upgrade in 'management engagement' in the issue! Even the best worn uniform will look like crap, if hair isn't tied back, shoes are not appropriate, nil make-up and inappropriate cabin luggage. If only UA would invest in uniforms to the degree other airlines like EK, EY, BA and QF do (note QF and BA are both western airlines so it is possible for a western airline to have a decent uniform and high presentation and grooming standards!)


User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 17872 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
I wonder if they have the stones to do something original and not a faux captains uniform like they do now, no dowdy house dresses or cartigans, even AA has the same!

Preach on! Anyone else think putting stripes on a FA uniform is pretentious as hell? Who designs these things anyway?Personally, I love DL's new look. FAs look more like FAs, and do it looking real sharp while they're at it. UA would do well to look in that direction.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 1):
Now there's an airline in need of a uniform change. Their uniform is just so dowdy and old-fashioned.

Agreed.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2866 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17646 times:
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There is a very famous photo of a United FA (female) in an orange coat with white gloves and a white hat on a 747, sitting on the arm of a First class seat and talking to a couple of passengers, circa 1971. It was almost, but not quite Braniff Pucci, but not far. It looked United. It looked like "The Friendly Skies". I don't know what the men wore, but I'm sure it wasn't orange with white gloves, but I bet they looked FAB too.
On my last UA ride from HkG to ORD I struck up this topic with my FA. She said that was the uniform she started in! Clearly she was no longer 21 years old (closer to 60), but she was absoluely beautiful today. Elegant and experienced. She said that flying for United back then was a big honor and that each flight she made sure her make-up, hair and uniform were perfect (as she was that flight) United really meant something. Pan Am was the big corporate giant, but United was the beautiful airline that was filled with color & joy from nose to tail.
While her years with UA were coming to an end, she told me there was nothing she was more proud of. On the newly refitted 747 we were on, she said she felt the magic was coming back. She took the triangular cradenza in first and made a work of art with white napkins and table cloths, almost oragamiVC10er centerpiece with orchids she bought herself downtown HK. It was elegant to the point where it could have been at presidential reception at the Waldorf Astoria. God bless her and those like her who could turn her airline into a flying 5 star hotel. But...I wished she was wearing orange, pink and blue with white gloves, that would have put that UA 747 in a class an Asian carrier would have even been jealous of.
United: I hope your reading this!



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 17549 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 1):
I must say that, IMHO, the current UA uniform dress is ugly.

Gee, thanks  


Anyhow, they keep stirring up all this brouhaha at work about how we're going to have new uniforms so save our uniform points, blah blah blah. I've yet to see ANY sneak preview so I have no idea how they'll look.



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User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 17535 times:

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 6):
Preach on! Anyone else think putting stripes on a FA uniform is pretentious as hell? Who designs these things anyway?Personally, I love DL's new look. FAs look more like FAs, and do it looking real sharp while they're at it. UA would do well to look in that direction.

I think it looks professional at least on the male F/As. I hope they get rid of those horrid waistcoats/vests on the male F/As. I cringe anytime I see one of those and it does not look professional at all.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5232 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 17476 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 8):
Gee, thanks

Always glad to be of assistance.  
Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 8):
Anyhow, they keep stirring up all this brouhaha at work about how we're going to have new uniforms so save our uniform points, blah blah blah.

I didn't know you were a stewardess.   



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2866 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 17415 times:
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Are the terms "stewardess" and "steward" still uncool?


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 17374 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 10):
I didn't know you were a stewardess.

I'm not, just a gate-agent'ess  
Quoting VC10er (Reply 12):
Are the terms "stewardess" and "steward" still uncool?

Most FA's, I've found, find the terms offensive if called them by passengers. I've often heard them call eachother the terms though. Kinda the group dynamic like how certain demographics call each other various offensive things as terms of endearment.



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User currently offlinenws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 883 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16911 times:

I hope the new UA uniform looks good, because those of us at CO may be wearing it soon, the way we keep "aligning operations".

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 12):
Most FA's, I've found, find the terms offensive if called them by passengers. I've often heard them call eachother the terms though. Kinda the group dynamic like how certain demographics call each other various offensive things as terms of endearment.

It really depends on the passenger and how it's said. 70 year old who says stewardess/steward in a kind way doesn't bother me at all. 30 year old who says it in a degrading manner will piss me off.


User currently offlineSkyGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16794 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 12):
I'm not, just a gate-agent'ess

And what a fabulous gate-agent'ess you are!

Quoting nws2002 (Reply 13):
It really depends on the passenger and how it's said. 70 year old who says stewardess/steward in a kind way doesn't bother me at all. 30 year old who says it in a degrading manner will piss me off.

I had an 80 year old lady who saw me walking to my car in my apartment complex about a year ago, and she was so excited when she asked if I was a real stewardess. I couldn't help but smile, because she was so sweet and genuine about it, as though I was some sort of celebrity.



I can't wait to see our new uniforms. They had a survey up for awhile so that employees could make some input into the uniforms. I hope they actually listened to our suggestions. I know my biggest complaints are the fabric, the quality, and the style. Poly-wool blend is horrid for being cold in winter, hot in summer, and I swear I can't wash the smell of coffee and jet fuel out of my uniform, no matter how much soap I pour in.



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User currently offlineAACUN From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15781 times:
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Kudos United for finally changing those tired old uniforms..........



And now,
the title of the worst airline uniform in the world goes to..................


Us here at AA....................

God it really makes me proud anytime I put that uniform on.............( Im being totally sarcastic now)
And I still try for it to look its best... but after 24 years wearing the same uniform..... theres not a lot of motivation when putting it on.........


User currently offlineUnitedFA07 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15169 times:

As unbecoming of a uniform it maybe be to some of you, some of us still try to look polished and crisp with the materials we are giving. While others just don't give a damn.

The uniform actually isn't that old. I believe since sometime in the 80's there has been 3 or 4 uniform changes. Good or bad as they may be, what are the life span of some other US and International airlines?

From what I've heard color options might be red, gray, and yellow. Maybe not all in one but different options. On who where or what I don't know. Its all the front line employees who are getting new uniforms.

Trials on them are suppose to be sometime in April. So keep an eye out if you see someone wearing something different. Be sure to give a constructive option. They will be reporting back to the powers that be.
  


User currently offlineozark1 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14806 times:

Quoting AACUN (Reply 15):

I completely agree with you AACUN!!! I guess the company doesn't see that just getting us in some new threads might improve the morale a tad. The pants itch and the blue colors of the jacket don't match with them. If you walk around an airport you will see it being worn in so many varieties that to me, shows that many that wear them aren't happy. You can have new seats, new Admirals Clubs, new overhead bins, but the frontline worker needs some attention for a change.
I would really love to see a more comfortable, casual but professional look for domestic flights and keep the formality for the international routes. Serving a full load in coach in the middle of the summer should not, in my opinion, require a tie. A nice polo shirt would be great. I'll wear whatever they want me to, but I sure wish they'd realize that every little improvement helps internally and externally!


User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14659 times:

Quoting ozark1 (Reply 17):
I would really love to see a more comfortable, casual but professional look for domestic flights and keep the formality for the international routes. Serving a full load in coach in the middle of the summer should not, in my opinion, require a tie. A nice polo shirt would be great. I'll wear whatever they want me to, but I sure wish they'd realize that every little improvement helps internally and externally!

Please no polo shirts! Ties look so professional! Maybe you guys could switch to clip on ties as those would be more comfortable.  



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User currently offlinerjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14359 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
DL's uniforms are amazing and probably the best in the United States,

Agreed. I am sure United's new uniforms will be just as nice though. I am really looking forward to seeing them soon!


User currently offlinemtaabq From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14244 times:

Quoting SkyGirl (Reply 14):
I swear I can't wash the smell of coffee and jet fuel out of my uniform, no matter how much soap I pour in.

OK, this may be way off topic, but as for your uniform, try adding 1/4 cup of plain, white distilled vinegar to the final rinse cycle. The vinegar will dissolve the alkalies in the soap and detergent which are problably holding in the coffee and jet fuel smell. The vinegar will also act as a fabric softener and it helps brighten dark colors that have been dulled by soap and detergent.

Yes, yes, I know we're all airline geeks here but it can't hurt to share some household tips.


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11432 posts, RR: 61
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14129 times:

Quoting ozark1 (Reply 17):
I guess the company doesn't see that just getting us in some new threads might improve the morale a tad.

I agree with you that AA needs new uniforms desperately. The ones they have now are just so bad looking because they're dated and old, and because nobody wears them anymore the way they were intended because their design is just not conducive to operations these days.

The ideal uniform for AA - in my opinion - would be simple: black or blue slacks, and a really nice, well-fitting and clean/solid polo shirt (with tie for men) that could be either white, pale blue or gray, with a quality-embroidered breast pocket AA or Eagle logo. Simple, tasteful and understated - I think that's the best AA could hope for these days.

But, all that being said, I would love to be sitting at APFA or APA headquarters on the day that the company announces that they're rolling out new uniforms.

Somehow I don't see the unions - who constantly carp and complain that they're not "participating in the upside" enough and that the company seemingly has money for everything else except them - being too happy with the company spending tens of millions on new uniforms for all employees.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2866 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13854 times:
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I do like the United blue scarf for women. The FA in the safety video wears it around her neck like a choker. It's a nice modern design....but I always wondered how safe it is to tie a scarf tightly sound your neck during an emergency!


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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1129 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13831 times:

AA has the worst uniforms and really poor image supervision/follow up from managers about FAs (and other groups in general)...AA is making some adjustments to the current generic hodge-podge its crews wear but what is coming is uninspiring to say the least...kudos to UAL for hiring a designer! AA cries they cannot afford to pay a major designer for a new uniform; I think they (AA) just don't care...

User currently offlineCRJ 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12361 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 21):
The ideal uniform for AA - in my opinion - would be simple: black or blue slacks, and a really nice, well-fitting and clean/solid polo shirt (with tie for men) that could be either white, pale blue or gray, with a quality-embroidered breast pocket AA or Eagle logo. Simple, tasteful and understated - I think that's the best AA could hope for these days.

You have got to be kidding me right? A POLO SHIRT AND TIE?....... yikes.


25 commavia : Sorry - just re-read that, was typing fast. Didn't mean to say polo shirt - I meant collared button-down shirt, but yes - simple and understated. Con
26 Lufthansa : Presentation...and packaging is EVERYTHING. If you are in a restaurant... and a good chef plates the same food up as what somebody cooked it home...a
27 chepos : Dont get me started on the AA uniform I recently flew on an AA flight between MCI and DFW, one of the flight attendants was wearing a vest with a silv
28 CRJ 900 : I have to say that our new uniform at AC/Jazz is not the best. Cheap material, the shirts wrinkle within 5 mins of having them on, ugly ties and scarf
29 GALLEYSTEW : If you look closely at the DELTA uniforms for Cabin crew, the suit jackets have strips on the sleeves just like UA, CA, AA, and others. It is just ton
30 Post contains links LAXorLGWonDL : http://www.uniformfreak.com/indexnav/indexnav1a.html Pics of United and many other airlines' uniforms at present and in the past.
31 lightsaber : I would say the same about DL's uniform. Beyond a certain size it looks more like a circus tent. As to Steward/Stewardess, I agree some use the term.
32 Post contains images smi0006 : Couldn't agree more, it loose it's uniformity (which is what your after with a uniform no?) and it creates confusion with the branding, This is very
33 Post contains links bjorn14 : I found this interesting website http://www.uniformfreak.com/
34 UnitedFA07 : An interview with designer Cynthia Rowley on CNNi. CNN International (all times Central Daylight Time): March 16 at 0430 and 1230, March 20 at 0430, 1
35 Post contains links United1 : http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi.../16/quest.united.uniforms.cnn.html
36 m11stephen : The DL uniform looks FANTASTIC on the right F/A but for an F/A with a little junk in the trunk it ruins the whole image... I am NOT against overweigh
37 rjpieces : Excellent video, thanks for letting us know! Ten uniforms?! What is she designing uniforms for besides pilots, F/As, customer service agents, and mai
38 Post contains images OH-LGA : United Express Customer Service and Ramp staff will be part of the new uniform rollout when it comes out - as those uniforms are one and the same. I
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