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UA Website Touts Top On-Time Ahead Of DL, AA, CO!  
User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2525 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

Couldn't help but notice united.com's homepage touts UA's 2009 top on-time achievement among U.S. "global carriers" for 2009. Interesting that they mention beating out DL, AA and CO. Can't help but wonder if CO isn't too happy about that given their cozy relationship and merger rumors. Please discuss...

777fan


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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

UA and CO are still competitors. Overall, I don't see why UA is bragging about its on-time performance, that's what happens when you cut nearly 1/4th of your capacity within a two-year period. Oh well, congratulations United!  

Jeremy


User currently offlineFFlyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Well gosh - it's about time! Isn't this the first time UA can brag about their on-time percentage over a full year time in 20 years or so???? Congrats! It's about time! Now get your employees to smile and work on your labor strife.

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2525 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
that's what happens when you cut nearly 1/4th of your capacity within a two-year period.

Hmmm, and the others didn't?! Considering the horrific weather they dealt with at their ORD, IAD and DEN hubs, it's still a noteworthy achievement. In interesting twist to your point, UA's fleet is still slightly larger than CO's, IIRC.


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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3094 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Quoting 777fan (Reply 3):
Hmmm, and the others didn't?!

Delta didn't. And I'm sitting through the 90 minute delay in ATL right now waiting to go home to JFK to prove it.  


User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

The New runway at ORD has a lot to do with this....as it has greatly helped the situation at ORD. When they get the rest of the airport built out...it will be awesome.

That being said though, if these numbers are only for United Mainline, and don't include United Express, they are very misleading. With more of their domestic flights now operated by Express and not mainline, it just makes it that much more difficult for passengers to truly know about the individual carriers ontime performance. I just don't see why the legacies aren't forced to lump their performance with all the express carriers performance and report that lump number as the performance for the whole airline. There is a lot more to it than that, but I will save that for other threads.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23308 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 5):
That being said though, if these numbers are only for United Mainline, and don't include United Express, they are very misleading. With more of their domestic flights now operated by Express and not mainline, it just makes it that much more difficult for passengers to truly know about the individual carriers ontime performance. I just don't see why the legacies aren't forced to lump their performance with all the express carriers performance and report that lump number as the performance for the whole airline. There is a lot more to it than that, but I will save that for other threads.

Agreed, though we can get a decent look at UA's Express operations since majors operate a pretty good chunk of its Express operations (though it's smaller than the percentage of operations by majors for AA and CO at least and maybe DL too).

Here are ontime performances for regionals by major (percentages for calendar year 2009)

AA
MQ: 77.22

CO
XE: 78.72

DL
OO: 82.11
9E: 82.54
EV: 71.24
OH: 69.02

UA
OO: 82.11
YV: 79.13

US
YV: 79.13

Based on these (admittedly limited) data, I'm not sure that UA would come out worse with Express carriers included; S5 certainly does a real good job with ontime performance, and neither G7 nor AX is terrible either.

[Edited 2010-03-13 08:08:22]


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6134 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

[quote=catiii,reply=4]Quoting 777fan (Reply 3):
Hmmm, and the others didn't?!

Delta didn't. And I'm sitting through the 90 minute delay in ATL right now waiting to go home to JFK to prove it.

DL absolutely chopped a fair bit of capacity out of their system over the past two years...so did every other legacy.

This was discussed awhile ago..

UA #1 On-Time Legacy Carrier In 2009 (by United1 Feb 12 2010 in Civil Aviation)



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