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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 86  
User currently offlineaviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1428 posts, RR: 3
Posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19467 times:

Indian Aviation Thread: Part 85. (by Aviationbuff Jan 23 2010 in Civil Aviation)

Thread Carried forward..................

AI-IA merger only helped pvt airlines: Panel

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...ines-Panel/articleshow/5678193.cms

Quote:
Faulting the merger of Air India and Indian Airlines, the committee on public undertakings (COPU) on Friday described it as a marriage between "incompatible individuals" that helped neither. The merger, instead, increased losses and put the carriers at a disadvantage to private operators.

Releasing its report on AI-IA becoming one, COPU chairman V Kishore Chandra Deo said the two airlines had suffered in terms of brand value and lost traffic to private competitors while no effort was made to monitor the merger.
Other Highlights:
-After National Aviation Company of India Ltd (NACIL) — merged entity of erstwhile Air India and Indian Airlines — came into being, both carriers suffered losses as prime commercial routes were allocated to private airlines.

- Indian Airlines had unparalleled recall value but was suddenly rebranded and "Indian" appeared without any convincing rationale.

- The merger was a policy decision "spearheaded by the ministry in-charge". PP has done a lot for the Indian Aviation but probably the merger will haunt him for long and probably many eyebrows will rise. It also says that all losses attributable to the merger should be recouped.

Recommendations

- The committee does not recommend de-merger.

- NACIL remain the holding company but Air India and Indian Airlines have separate managing directors.

- It also called for a fresh timeline for working out the merger and a review of route and slot allocations and improved efficiency norms to be put in place.

- NACIL should develop its maintenance and repair and overhaul unit into a business entity catering to the industry as a whole. Suggesting the merger was thrust on the two carriers, the report said there was no mechanism to ensure accountability of the entire amalgamation process.

- NACIL should take necessary steps to increase the utilisation of aircraft as the Committee observed that utilisation of aircraft is at a low of nine hours per day while the benchmark is 16 hours per day.

- Fresh infusion of capital should be through a proper mechanism and its utilisation must be ensured.

- The committee also emphasised the need for corporate work culture, and training and fair treatment to loyal employees. It said the assurance made to the employees before the merger of the two organisations that no employee would be placed at a disadvantage at any stage, must be honoured.

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User currently offlineaviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 19440 times:

GoI considering installing body scanner at IGIA, New Delhi
Mumbai airport could be next in line


http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/goi-...ody-scanner-at-igia-new-delhi-9789

Quote:
The Government of India (GoI) is considering installing body scanner on a trial basis at the upcoming Terminal 3 at Indira Gandhi International Airport (IGIA) in New Delhi.

According to a report in Times of India, the Terminal 3 is scheduled to be inaugurated in the first week of July this year and fully operational soon after that. Patel said the government is yet to finalise the type of technology to be deployed as the proposal is still in initial stages. “Appropriate safeguards and certification for privacy and health issues will be incorporated,” added Patel.

After Delhi, Mumbai could be the next airport to get these scanners.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 19275 times:

Have any Indian news outlets corroborated the accuracy of the WSJ story that 9W will lease 3 77Ws to TG ?


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User currently offlineaviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 19075 times:

AirlineRoute Update ............

Air India 1-time 747-400 to Tokyo in May 10

As per 15MAR10 GDS timetable display, Air India currently scheduled Boeing 747-400 one-time service on Delhi – Tokyo Narita route on 04MAY10. Tokyo departure on 05MAY10.


Air India increase Singapore capacity

As per 11MAR10 GDS timetable display, Air India is increasing capacity on service to Singapore. Delhi – Singapore and Mumbai – Singapore from 28MAR is to operate with Airbus A320, replacing A319.

Each route operates daily. It also operates 2 Daily Chennai – Singapore with Airbus A321


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 19055 times:

According to the GDS, Effective 24th April 2010 IT will launch daily services between DEL and DXB.

IT 041 DEL - DXB 1925 2125 3h30mins
IT 042 DXB - DEL 2240 0350+1 3h40mins

Aircraft: A320

EK -- 4 daily flights ( 14 weekly A332 + 14 weekly assorted B777s)
AI -- 2 daily A321s
9W-- daily B738s
Z5 -- 3 weekly MD 82 ( they are suspending their operations temporarily)

[Edited 2010-03-15 02:09:41]


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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19027 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 5):
AI -- 2 daily A321s
9W-- daily B738s

What are their timings on the route who is IT head to head against

Karan


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19023 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 6):
What are their timings on the route who is IT head to head against

head on with 9W.

In the evening dep from DEL

AI 6.50 pm
IT 7.25 pm
9W 7.30pm
AI 8.45 pm

dep from DXB

AI 9.55 pm
EK 10.10 pm
IT 10.40 pm
9W 10.55 pm



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 19013 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 7):
AI 6.50 pm
IT 7.25 pm
9W 7.30pm
AI 8.45 pm

You may also add an 815pm dep for G9. Although it heads to SHJ, but most pax are bound for DXB, as was evident on my last trip on saturday. The SHJ airport taxis have a field day collecting the extra 20 dirhams to cross over into DXB.


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 18886 times:

According to the GDS, Air India will reshuffle its AUH schedules from BOM, DEL. As of now they have 3 weekly B738s (Air India express aircrafts) each to BOM and DEL.


AI 845 BOM - AUH 0600 0730 Tu, We, Th, Fr, Sa
AI 844 AUH - BOM 0850 1305 Tu, We, Th, Fr, Sa

Aircraft: A321


AI 841 DEL - AUH 0115 0335 Mo, We, Th, Fr, Sa
AI 840 AUH - DEL 0440 0955 Mo, We, Th, Fr, Sa

Aircraft: A321



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 18862 times:

Has LH downgraded the DEL-MUC service to 343's?


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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 18858 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 10):
Has LH downgraded the DEL-MUC service to 343's?

Long time back.



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User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18820 times:

Quoting aviationbuff (Reply 4):
Air India 1-time 747-400 to Tokyo in May 10

As per 15MAR10 GDS timetable display, Air India currently scheduled Boeing 747-400 one-time service on Delhi – Tokyo Narita route on 04MAY10. Tokyo departure on 05MAY10.

That's odd! Must be a GoI charter and AI may be selling extra seats to the gen. public.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 18773 times:

Domestic airlines see 17% traffic growth in Feb.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...wth-in-Feb/articleshow/5688109.cms


Quote:
Domestic air traffic continued to soar with airlines flying 39.15 lakh passengers in February, up 17% over the same period last year, suggesting a better financial outlook for the loss-ridden aviation industry. The two major low-cost carriers IndiGo and SpiceJet filled over 80% of their seats during this period, signalling passenger shift towards no-frill air travel, data released by Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) showed.

“This growth is real and brings rational amount of profit with it. It’s better to have a 17% growth and a good yield rather than a profitless growth of 30%. We are looking at 10-12% growth in air traffic this year,” said Boeing India president Dinesh Keskar. Airlines reported losses of about Rs 8,000 crore in 2008-09, which are expected to widen further in the current year.

The aviation industry regulator on Monday said airlines added capacity in February. Most of the domestic carriers, especially budget airlines, have plans to add to their fleet size in the coming months. “Traffic number is only slightly better in the first 15 days of this month compared to the same month last year. Yield (revenue per passenger per kilometre) has been fairly good,” an official said.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 18697 times:

As per airlineroute.net:

As per 16MAR10 GDS timetable display, SWISS currently plans to operate Daily service each of Zurich – Delhi and Zurich – Mumbai service in Winter 2010/11 season, eff 31OCT10. Service operates with Airbus A330-300.


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18632 times:

Silk air to start new services to BLR and MAA from SIN in addition to the existing SQ flights.

From 17th May 2010

MI 428 SIN - BLR 2250 0045+1 4hrs25mins
MI 427 BLR - SIN 0130 0835 4hrs35mins

Daily A319/A320 operations

Other flights: AI daily A319; TR daily A320; SQ daily B772.

From 14th June 2010

MI 432 SIN - MAA 1120 1255 4hrs5mins Tu, Sa
MI 436 SIN - MAA 1345 1530 4hrs30mins Mo, We, Th, Fr, Su

MI 431 MAA - SIN 1345 2035 4hrs20 mins Tu, Sa
MI 435 MAA - SIN 1615 2245 4hrs Mo, We, Th, Fr, Su

Aircraft: A319/A320

Other flights: AI double daily A321; AIX: double daily B738; 9W daily B738; TR daily A320 and SQ daily B773

With these flights Silk Air will have 34 weekly flights to India ( daily to BLR, MAA, HYD, COK and 3 weekly each to TRV and CJB).

http://www.silkair.com/mbe/en_UK/con...rate/newsflash/NF1001_16032010.jsp



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18484 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 15):
From 17th May 2010

MI 428 SIN - BLR 2250 0045+1 4hrs25mins
MI 427 BLR - SIN 0130 0835 4hrs35mins

Does anyone know why SQ/ MI are going head-to-head with similar timings? Plus this also overlaps with the timings of AI and Tiger air. Why did MI not time this to be a day time flight instead?



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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18480 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 16):
oes anyone know why SQ/ MI are going head-to-head with similar timings? Plus this also overlaps with the timings of AI and Tiger air. Why did MI not time this to be a day time flight instead?

Have been scratching my head all day thinking the same. And it is not that SQ is handing BLR to MI.



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 18440 times:

Take-off from DEL yesterday used rwy 11. First time I've taken off from that runway, I assume with 10-28 being shut down soon for repairs 11-29 will become Delhi's primary runway.

Plus I noticed that T3 ahas multicoloured gates. Each 'arm' of the terminal has different coulours Green, Red, Yellow and Pink I think.



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User currently offlinecolts001 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 18365 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 16):
Does anyone know why SQ/ MI are going head-to-head with similar timings? Plus this also overlaps with the timings of AI and Tiger air. Why did MI not time this to be a day time flight instead?

I think it is better aircraft utilization. Most of Silk air routes are to South east asia/china and they don't have a lot of night flying so most of the aircrafts are free during the night.

Also, it is a good move on the part of singapore air to offer some competition to Air asia as well as pre-empt IT from starting a flight.


User currently onlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 18261 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 18):
Take-off from DEL yesterday used rwy 11. First time I've taken off from that runway, I assume with 10-28 being shut down soon for repairs 11-29 will become Delhi's primary runway.

Plus I noticed that T3 ahas multicoloured gates. Each 'arm' of the terminal has different coulours Green, Red, Yellow and Pink I think.

I was just wondering how this was going to be managed; is it safe to say that (for the most part) international flights will use 11/29 and domestic flights, 09/27?

Either way, it seems that where the wind requires the use of westerly runways, 27 or 29, the taxi distance from the international terminal to either runway will be quite long.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 18246 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 20):
Either way, it seems that where the wind requires the use of westerly runways, 27 or 29, the taxi distance from the international terminal to either runway will be quite long.

Kaitak.. and here was me thinking you had dropped in on the Indian forum to ask the burning question!!  

Dear Indian Members.. have any of you heard anything of the runour that AI have chosen Dublin as their new European "Scissor hub"?

Lots of rumours around Dublin airport suggesting this is true?

I certainly hope it is! Would be nice to see that wonderful livery at DUB!



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 18239 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 21):
Lots of rumours around Dublin airport suggesting this is true?

Please elaborate.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 18238 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 22):
Please elaborate.

Rumour would suggest that AI have signed up to route up to 5 daily transit flights via Dublin's new terminal 2, thus making use of the new US customs and Immigration service at that terminal for some US bound services. The rumour seems to be that DUB will replace the previous role of Frankfurt.

Apparently, some AI top brass were in DUB to inspect the new facilities recently. Dublin Airport Authority staff, and staff at the various handling and servicing companies at the airport seem to suggest that a deal has been done.



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 18172 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 23):
new US customs and Immigration service at that terminal for some US bound services

What are these services yuo mentioned?

and what are the volumes on the India-DUB O&D, not much I would guess......


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 18131 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 24):
What are these services yuo mentioned?

and what are the volumes on the India-DUB O&D, not much I would guess......

One can clear US immigration and customs in DUB, thus arriving in the US completely cleared of all formalities.

India DUB o&d is bigger than you think (ask Etihad), but no, you're not going to fill a daily 777 out of it. But then, I doubt Jet Airways gets a huge amount of O&D at BRU.



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25 Nimish : Wow - sounds like a good idea if true. I'm guessing DUB is not crowded and confusing as FRA is? And that the immigration/ customs checks will be much
26 comorin : I think the bags will come out of the hold at DUB, you clear US customs and then drop the bag on the conveyor for the connecting flight. This is what
27 Anshuk : Neat. So in essence, the flight from DUB to whichever airport in the States will be a domestic flight, right?
28 tharanga : In essence, yes. You are treated as a domestic passenger when you land in the US. So no need for an arrival gate or terminal with intl arrivals capabi
29 golfradio : The passengers would need to claim their baggage first and then proceed for US Immigration/Customs. Once they are cleared, they will have to get the
30 comorin : Ugh! The rescreening is the killer here. Perhaps DUB has a sterile area so that it is not necessary?
31 Post contains images kaitak : The re-screening area will be in the sterile area, so what pax will go through will be a customs check; they will also go through immigration. The ad
32 tharanga : 787 will completely change aviation to India. I'm not sure how it's going to fall out, but I think some big shifts will happen.
33 Brahmin : The last time I flew to the USA from Dublin, the Immigration was done in Dublin, but, you still have to clear customs in the USA.
34 Post contains links kaitak : Customs pre-clearance has just been introduced at Shannon, but will be coming to Dublin with the opening of Terminal 2, later this year. Here's an ex
35 777way : Etihad Cargo have relaunched Bangalore.
36 Post contains images comorin : Etihad Cargo have relaunched Bangalore after Thanks for clarifying that! That's good news for a lot of Indopax, and good news for DUB too as an entrep
37 aviationbuff : Singapore Airlines/Silk Air New India Routes Codeshare Source : AirlineRoute Singapore Airlines will be placing its “SQ” code on Silk Air’s new
38 aviationbuff : Air India A321 to Abu Dhabi in S10 Source: AirlineRoute As per 19MAR10 GDS timetable display, Air India from 28MAR10 is to operate Airbus A321 aircraf
39 Cricket : Air India is not changing, they'll continue to be a dysfunctional company as long as the Government runs it. If 787's of other airlines mean new dest
40 Post contains links aviationbuff : AI resumes pilot recruitment process http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...nt-process/articleshow/5708028.cms
41 Post contains links aviationbuff : Crude bomb found inside Kingfisher flight http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/2010032...omb-found-inside-kingfisher-f.html
42 Post contains links LAXDESI : IndiGo seeks nod to fly abroad. http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...tariff-war/articleshow/5709815.cms Quote: India’s biggest low-cost carrier In
43 HAWK21M : Serious Security lapse here........
44 Post contains images shamrock604 : True, you just have to turn the flags around, and its almost the same thing.... India and Ireland were "unfit for home rule" probably because we were
45 Post contains links AirIndia : So FlyDubai has managed to secure rights to fly to india from summer 2010.. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ulf-sector/articleshow/5713653.cms
46 Cricket : It turned out to be a glorified firecracker, but that said it should not have made it inside in the first place. But I loved the way the BCAS, CISF a
47 Post contains links blr380 : Dragon Air to resume daily service to BLR http://beta.thehindu.com/business/article285488.ece Nice to see a turnaround in loads from BLR - Hoping to s
48 CaliAtenza : BTW, is it IT that is flying the IPL teams around India?
49 Cricket : Yup, most sectors they use commercial flights
50 WestWing : A report in the Indian Express says Air India are losing to the tune of USD $165 million annually on the "prestigious" BOM/DEL to JFK non-stop flights
51 Anshuk : Indian Express is not exactly a trustworthy newspaper :-P
52 golfradio : Not that I am saying the report is correct but Indian Express is one of the trustworthy newspapers. Shekhar Gupta is one of the finest journalists. C
53 Nimish : I think this huge loss was also highlighted by the parliament during a review of AI ops.
54 Cricket : As expected PRESS RELEASE JET AIRWAYS TO DRY LEASE 3 BOEING 777-300 ER TO THAI AIRWAYS New Delhi, March 25, 2010: Jet Airways, India’s premier inter
55 Post contains images buck3y3nut : I surely hope so. Would love to see the Indian Airlines succeed in these economic times. and with that success, joining an alliance like Star. (finge
56 Post contains images anshuk : Just saw quite a nice report on NDTV about DEL's new terminal. Looks fantastic! They say its 10 times bigger than the existing terminal and the second
57 Cricket : The terminal is scheduled to be operational on July 3 when Sonia Gandhi dedicates a new terminal in the airport named after her mom-in-law!
58 Post contains links AirIndia : third biggest i guess. after DXB T3 & PEK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_in_the_world#Largest_floor_space
59 Cricket : NDTV - what did you expect :-P
60 Post contains images anshuk : Will the terminal be given a separate name by any chance? Rajiv Gandhi terminal, perhaps? On a side note, are there any moves to rename BLR Kempe Gow
61 Post contains links aviationbuff : No .................. Just read some interesting articles about Indian Aviation .... CAPA and SITA publish White Paper on Information Technology in I
62 WestWing : Is there a reliable source for the floor area of DEL T3? So far I have only found 500,000 sq. m. cited. If that number (500K) is accurate - then DEL
63 Post contains images gr8circle : .....as Rajiv Gandhi International Airport...?
64 AirIndia : I had a different opinion about them though......... better than the rest! ofcourse sir... maybe its the size post competion of first phase. maybe in
65 anshuk : I don't think there's a second phase for the terminal. Its in one go. It has 78 aerobridges - maybe its the second biggest in those terms?
66 Cricket : 48 gates in all - 3 A380 ready (two deck/3 aerobridges) But that is lazy, didn't even bother to Google just drank DIAL's Koolaid! Well, DIAL is a mul
67 AirIndia : So that will be 3 p'llel runways to begin with. Where would the 4th one fit. Will it be 12/30? or 8/26? T4 perhaps will be the new intl terminal, T3
68 Cricket : Next to the existing 11/29. There will be a pair of 11/29's and a pair of 10/28's though all be more or less parallel. That depends actually. Maybe b
69 anshuk : I stand corrected, I just looked at the website. The masterplan also states that there will be two expansions of the terminal. First will involve add
70 Post contains links Cricket : This is very interesting and deserved its own thread End Of The Road For Paramount? (by Cricket Mar 31 2010 in Civil Aviation)
71 HAWK21M : I don't think another article of a Thyagarajan Interview of future plans can alter the Inevitible. regds MEL.
72 Post contains images buck3y3nut : Yes sirji. I think the capital of India should probably have more than one airport. Although looks like the new DEL is going to be one heck of an air
73 Post contains images AirIndia : I guess the need is for multiple domestic/regional airports. For intl traffic one airport would suffice. That 50 million would be possible if transit
74 Anshuk : I don't know which news channels to trust these days. Its all so sad! Blatantly incorrect figures. *sigh* I'm sorry, but I don't agree that any city
75 AirIndia : Those who dont want to dish out higher fares can However, lets take istanbul as an example. the city is divided on 2 continents. there are 2 airports
76 Anshuk : Yes, but as a country India is much, much bigger. How many of the gulf carriers would operate flights into both the airports? For that matter, how ma
77 Cricket : Well, like the US you will need to pass immigration and customs at first point of arrival with check-in luggage (I know it is a pain) but that is abo
78 AirIndia : That it will definitely become complicated. especially with the babudom. that can be altered when money exchanges hands......... Anyways, lets hope D
79 Cricket : Praful announced July 3 is the day of destiny!
80 AirIndia : Some conviction atleast. hopefully if all goes well, I should be on the EK flight out of DEL on 3rd July........
81 Anshuk : It definitely needs to be up and running before the start of the CWG! Don't trials start soon?
82 Cricket : I'm almost sounding as if I'm the DIAL Press Officer - I'm not - but trials are sched to start April 15 for internal luggae systems and from end-May
83 ojas : According to the GDS, With immediate effect AI will place its AI code on UL's flights between BOM, DEL and CMB. UL operations to India:- MAA: double d
84 Post contains links aviationbuff : NAS AIR (LCC of Saudi Arabia) launched its Indian Operations from 31st March http://www.flynas.com/en/home.aspx NAS Air introduced flights (4 Weekly)
85 ojas : SAMA launched DMM - BOM not RUH - BOM.
86 Cricket : Air Arabia just completed five years in India and claims to have carried 3.9 million passengers from India to the UAE (Sharjah) in that time-frame. Cr
87 AirIndia : Spicejet may be able to do what AIX could not manage. Besides, I feel that a major chunk of those 3.9 mil pax would be new O&D pax, I mean they i
88 Cricket : There are new passengers no doubt, and also Air Arabia has taken share from carriers like KU and SV but I hjope SpiceJet and later on Indigo can crac
89 gr8circle : Saw a TV news report of SM Krishna traveling to China on a visit.....he was interviwewd inside what seemed to be a small jet plane....brief image of h
90 blrsea : The GoI purchased 3 Boeing BBJ couple of years back. It may be one of those.
91 gr8circle : No...it wasn't a 737.....looked more like an ERJ....do they have any of those...? Only the front section of the plane was visible....the interior als
92 Post contains links and images golfradio : If it was an IAF aricraft then could be this baby or one of her sisters According to this site the IAF has 4 ERJ-135s http://www.planespotters.net/Ai
93 blrsea : Yup, we have three of ERJ-135s and three Boeing BBJs in our VIP fleet. SM Krishna probably travelled on the ERJs then. I would have assumed he would
94 gr8circle : Yes! This is exactly the one that was shown on TV.....only the nose section was visible, that's why I was confused....
95 Post contains images AirIndia : Isnt one ERJ for specifi use by the BSF?
96 Anshuk : In fact, its for the exclusive use for the Director General of the BSF. Also, I'm not sure about after 26/11 another one was allotted for the exclusi
97 Post contains links Anshuk : http://in.news.yahoo.com/32/20100406...ght-stealing-laptop-on-cctv-a.html The nerve some people have, I tell you.
98 AirIndia : Perhaps you are right. Also post 26/11 DGCA has instructed civil airlines to provide an aircraft to ferry NSG commandos in future such events to avoi
99 Post contains images buck3y3nut : Can anyone help me out with somethign I've been wondering here? (Might be ignorant, so please excuse me in advace ) In the US, a lot of short hop flig
100 jayeshrulz : Though late but surprisingly no one noticed this.. "Once finally selected, these pilots will be put on eight months training before joining the left
101 Post contains images Cricket : maybe because we drive cars that way?
102 colts001 : 9W operates ATR72 & IT operates ATR72/ATR42 for short haul flights.
103 Cricket : In fact S2 operates the CR2 on slightly longer sectors such as DEL - LKO and DEL - BBI CD operates the CR7 on sectors such as DEL-AMD but on really s
104 Cricket : According to 9W's latest Press Release Passengers travelling on Jet Airways’ flights will now be able to book onward connections to other South Afri
105 Cricket : GVK pretty much takes over BIAL, so GVK now runs BIAL and MIAL while GMR runs DIAL and GHIAL BIAL Board appoints GV Krishna Reddy as Vice Chairman and
106 Post contains links aviationbuff : GVK and GMR are doing great job ..... MIAL plans to develop hospitality, realty projects near Mumbai Airport http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/mial...p
107 Post contains images Boeing747_600 : So will an Airbus 310
108 Cricket : QR starts BLR-DOH daily, more connectivity choices to Bangaloreans going to the US then
109 blr380 : The service already started in Feb. QR and CA are the latest international carriers for BLR...Nice to see some growth! Regds
110 Anshuk : Their fares are consistently the lowest ex-BLR. I suppose they're trying to grab hold of a section of the market.
111 Post contains links aviationbuff : Indian Civil Aviation Minister: 'Worst is over' for Air India http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=20010
112 aviationbuff : SilkAir will be placing its “MI” code on Singapore Airlines’ Singapore – Bangalore and Singapore – Chennai this service progressively. Codes
113 Post contains images CaliAtenza : but they dont fly to LAX yet
114 tharanga : What is the status for modernisation at DumDum airport, Kolkata? Any pictures?
115 gr8circle : Okay, so how have the flights in and out of India been disrupted by the closure of airspace in Europe? Are the non-stops between India and USA affecte
116 VTNYC : Saw AI 141 from BOM heading north at 7:33 AM over my place to line up for 22R at JFK. So I guess the non-stops were not affected.
117 Boeing747_600 : Saw AI 141 from BOM heading north over my place to line up Must have been a CARMN FOUR Arrival (the only STAR calling for a northerly approach to JFK
118 Post contains images Anshuk : Not to nitpick, but the airport is now called Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International Airport
119 tharanga : indeed, but either way - it seems like this project has flown under the radar a bit. we've known all about the progress at DEL, but CCU seems to be a
120 Anshuk : A new domestic terminal opened at BOM today. I had NO idea about this! :S
121 Cricket : This is in between the existing Domestic terminals, I have been seeing it for a while from the outside, but it is quite small, only six contact gates
122 sankaps : In India the term "biggest in Asia" and / or "second biggest in the world" is used frequently to describe various things, natural and man-made. Does
123 DTWLAX : Just FYI.... DL does not fly nonstop between India and USA anymore. DL now operates BOM-AMS with onward connections to USA.
124 abrelosojos : = There is a second phase at HYD - and it is a second terminal mirroring the first. BTW, the new website for Delhi airport is pretty good. Saludos, A
125 sankaps : I have to ask: But Why? Ideally one integrated airport for an urban agglomeration of reasonable size (area), if it is large enough, well-located with
126 comorin : Delhi had/has a perfect second Airport - Safdarjung! You could use it as a regional airport much like LCY for short hops. As an ex-denizen of that ne
127 tharanga : But that's the problem. Even after some of the current metro and expressway projects are completed, traffic will still be a mess for people in many a
128 sankaps : Railway stations do not depend much on train-to-train connections and hub-and-spoke networks. Scale is less relevant to them. Local convenience is wh
129 comorin : I agree with you, but wonder if ground transportation is fixable in India. For example, the airport highway in BLR is a great artery, but you still h
130 sankaps : But Safdarjang is not that far at all from DEL airport; and you would still have people who have problems getting to Safdarjang from various other pa
131 tharanga : Safdarjung doesn't really address the same customers as the proposed UP airport. And the chances of it (Safdarjung) being opened for any significant c
132 sankaps : If we truly believe it will be easier to build a new airport in Noida rather than improve ground transportation to DEL (which should regardless be a
133 tharanga : Well... how well is traffic moving on the ring roads these days? I've not been there very recently; I remember bad jams at rush hours but they have b
134 AirIndia : Well, I was very keenly observing the development of Delh iin the earlier part of the last decade (2000) when Delhi was being termed as the flyover c
135 HAWK21M : Supposingly to be called 1C located between 1A & 1B. regds MEL.
136 sankaps : These stations were largely built in the days where the reasoning was "Station A to handle E-W traffic, Station B to handle N-S traffic", and so fort
137 tharanga : Right... thanks, also my impression. so if even that road is going to be blocked, then what can you do? an outer outer ring road? at some point, buil
138 Post contains links aviationbuff : Saudi Arabia-based LCC, nasair enters Indian market with strong expansion strategy Starts four flights a week on Mumbai-Riyadh route, to connect Kochi
139 Post contains links aviationbuff : Air India, Jet Airways resume flights to US http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/air-...airways-resume-flights-to-us-10126
140 Post contains links and images Cricket : I saw this picture of a AI 77L stuck in FRA, anyone know how many AI 9W and IT planes are stuck in Europe? View Large View MediumPhoto © Thomas Merkl
141 ojas : Update:- 9W has ceased offering J class on their COK - SHJ. Which means there is an increase in 30 Y seats in total. Of all the gulf operations, the f
142 ojas : While IT has successfully launched their 6 weekly BOM/DEL - BKK flights on the 17th; According to the GDS IT has indefinitely postponed the launch of
143 gr8circle : I saw a Jet Airways A330 landing at YYZ yesterday (Sunday) at 4.45pm....wonder how it reached Toronto....
144 PNQIAD : Just FYI.... DL does not fly nonstop between India and USA anymore. Per 9W website - using ATH as technical stopover.....
145 gr8circle : Huh..what happened to their ATL-BOM flight? Oh...thanks!
146 ojas : They have stopped them since November 2009. DL flies ATL - AMS - BOM.
147 aviationbuff : Air India resumes its Chicago flights Flight AI 127/126 (Mumbai-Chicago-Mumbai) will be operated, with a technical halt in Cairo on both outbound and
148 Post contains links aviationbuff : Indian domestic airlines lose Rs 82 crore in passenger revenue due to Iceland’s volcanic eruption http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/indi...o-icelands-
149 777way : Via Athens, Have AI routed any flights via Turkey or elsewhere in Southern Europe?
150 Cricket : AI went even further south - CAI
151 AirIndia : is the tech stop only to avoid ash clouds or will continue........... BOM-ORD is almost a polar route as per GC...... so what aircraft wil they deplo
152 ojas : IT will start BOM - KTM from 1st July 2010. Same schedules, W with DEL and offer LHR-DEL-KTM connections. However no updates about BOM - DXB.
153 Cricket : The ash clouds are over Russia and northern Norwegian airspace (needed for Polar routes) is closed
154 Post contains links aviationbuff : Air India, Jet Airways set to resume UK flights today http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/air-...t-to-resume-uk-flights-today-10144
155 leftwing : Per 9W we ... this is amazing Indian Civil Aviation dept allows anyone to start flt into India, however the airlines in India must fly for 5 yrs on do
156 AirIndia : I think the 5 year policy was put in place when Ai was the only intl carrier. It was meant to protect the interests of the state owned carrier. Howev
157 HAWK21M : True.That level playing field should be mantained. Give Indian carriers an equal opportunity.
158 Cricket : Per 9W we Hopefully SpiceJet and Indigo going international should change that
159 VIDP : The common wealth games has really given the push which was required in Delhi interms of infrastructure development. Traffic at the Ring Road and Out
160 leftwing : ... have they confirmed their plans ? 737NG & 320s would limit them to gulf and SE Asia only !..
161 ojas : BOM - DXB is on schedule .. starting 24th April. The GDS is showing the flight as bookable now. So other than the delay of BOM - KTM to July 1st, all
162 HAWK21M : Don't think they would see beyond that range initially.
163 Post contains links tharanga : Jet's product range gets even bigger and more confusing. http://www.livemint.com/2010/04/2300...et-Konnect-flights-to-have-se.html
164 abrelosojos : = As a good Indian friend (and A.Netter) remarked, we should really say Konnfusing ... Saludos, A.
165 Cricket : I guess they've not been able to convert all their 737's to all-economy, but this makes little or no sense whatsoever. It is like 'Take Gun, Aim at F
166 Post contains links AirIndia : But was it their plan to convert all their 737s to all Y and give it to Konnect? But yes, since they may not have converted all their Konnect designa
167 Post contains images VIDP : But one basic question. You want to restart business class on the exsisting Konnect flights why not convert these flights into regular 9W services.
168 VIDP : Just back from Cal last week. There is massive construction going on the domestic terminal side. It appears they are going to extend the domestic ter
169 Cricket : I guess you can cut some overheads even then, fewer on-board staff and cut food overheads. In fact leaving from 1D in DEL right now I usually grab a
170 comorin : Feeling nostalgic for the infamous down escalator when arriving at IGI internationally - is it gone or in an aviation museum somewhere?
171 gr8circle : I remember using it when I arrived at DEL once, on an AI flight.....why was it 'infamous'?
172 tharanga : Thank you and Cricket for the observations. The are doing a terrible job of keeping the public informed online, I think. I've searched, and only foun
173 comorin : I think because it had claimed one casualty - but I could be wrong. Yikes! I thought we had seen the last of that terminal!!
174 Anshuk : Its still very much there. That is correct, a nine year old girl if I'm not mistaken.. Tragic indeed.
175 tharanga : People don't think about it, but escalators can be dangerous, if you aren't careful. I think it's supposed to remain operational until T4 is built, w
176 Post contains images Anshuk : Book Jet Airways | Book JetLite | Redeem Online | Know your PIN | Purchase JPMiles Dear Mr. Anshuk M, We are pleased to introduce Jet Airways Konnect
177 Cricket : T2 will become a sort of low-cost terminal (international LCC's with what so many starting from DEL soon including SG and 6E), and it also has a lot
178 777way : Emirates cargo have ended freighter service to Kolkata.
179 VIDP : I know AAI is pretty bad when it comes to PR. But if i am not wrong then its a Thai Consortium which is modernizing the airport. if you seek more inf
180 VIDP : T1D remains till DIAL decides to realign the rwy 27. Current plan is to service domestic LCC ie SG,6E,G8 from 1D. Rest all airlines including interna
181 Post contains links VIDP : Just in an EK aircraft bound for COK suffered an air pocket fall. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5855407.cms KOCHI: The passengers of
182 Post contains links aviationbuff : AI to raise Rs 4,434 crore to finance fleet acquisition http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...cquisition/articleshow/5855114.cms
183 777way : How many aircraft have AIX phase dout so far and which tails are gone realted to this?
184 tharanga : Thank you, I did not know of this site. It has some good pictures and updates, though there people are also frustrated with lack of official informat
185 TheBigOne : Just seen an AI 747 fly overhead on departure from LHR about an hour ago (19:45 BST). Having checked Radar Virtuel this would appear to be VT-ESO en r
186 777way : 747s are Doing some Saudi routes, I think.
187 WestWing : (Emphasis added to the quote). The story as stated above sounds far too serious. I'm inclined to think it is either faulty reporting or the unnamed o
188 Post contains links Cricket : Well, after the first round of 'speculation' the true story is that it fell just 200 feet while flying at FL350 when it encountered Clear Air Turbule
189 Post contains links aviationbuff : Overcoming the skills crisis in Indian aviation http://www.centreforaviation.com/new...lls-crisis-in-india-aviation/page1 Nice Article ......
190 aviationbuff : Kingfisher Airlines postpone Mumbai – Kathmandu launch Kingfisher Airlines has postponed planned Mumbai – Kathmandu launch. The new launch date is
191 777way : Air India have shut both their Pakistan offices at Karachi and Lahore
192 VIDP : I think IT is now actually facing aircraft shortage. Unless they get more planes they wont be able to expand more. Lots of good routes on domestic le
193 tharanga : Anybody know what are air passenger numbers for India-Pakistan and India-Bangladesh?
194 tharanga : Going back to this: what is the expected travel time from Noida to IGI via metro, when airport express line opens? for some time, this is going to be
195 Cricket : Long trip, 30 minutes between Noida City Centre to Rajiv Chowk - change trains - 5-10 minutes - Rajiv Chowk to New Delhi 2 minutes - change to Airpor
196 tharanga : Ah, I was mistaken and thought Airport Express had a stop at Connaught place. For people coming on the blue line, having to change and backtrack to N
197 777way : Dismally low since November 2008, PIA have had to reduce frequencies drastically to DEL and BOM they were even considering using ATR to DEL I guess t
198 tharanga : People transiting through Pakistan to India? Who, from where? Travelers from the Gulf have plenty of nonstop and nicely priced options now. Maybe tha
199 777way : Yes they were getting Gulf and some Europe bound traffic.
200 VIDP : Travelling from Noida to CP on blue line would be messy unless you are travelling really light as its the busiest line of the Delhi Metro. Airport Ex
201 tharanga : Either way, it is not convenient if you have much luggage. Thank you for the reply.
202 HAWK21M : Adequate to cause structural damage.......Depending on the rate of descent.
203 Post contains links aviationbuff : India struggling to cope with ATCO shortage http://www.centreforaviation.com/new...g-to-cope-with-atco-shortage/page1 An article by CAPA re the shorta
204 Post contains links and images jayeshrulz : Time to open a new thread Indian Aviation Thread: Part 87 (by jayeshrulz Apr 28 2010 in Civil Aviation) new thread here. Thank you.[Edited 2010-04-28
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