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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6351 times:

It's oh so nice to see longer haul CR9 flying get upgraded to mainline. I'm sorry, I know some people love the CR9, but I still find them fairly miserable for a flight over two hours if you're stuck in Y....

SLC-BNA: CR9 to 319 eff. 6/10
SLC-MSY: CR9 to 319 eff. 6/10

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User currently offlineCALeeIII From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
It's oh so nice to see longer haul CR9 flying get upgraded to mainline. I'm sorry, I know some people love the CR9, but I still find them fairly miserable for a flight over two hours if you're stuck in Y....

SLC-BNA: CR9 to 319 eff. 6/10
SLC-MSY: CR9 to 319 eff. 6/10

I would gladly take the CR9 reinstated service BHM-SLC! It would be nice if they gave that route another shot with one at a decent time.


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5987 times:

I see they are sticking with the 3-4 daily CR9s on IAH-SLC. Precisely why I don't even bother thinking about flying DL westward.


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5948 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 2):
Precisely why I don't even bother thinking about flying DL westward.

I hear ya on that. To be honest, my ATL-ORD flight on the CR9 wasn't even that enjoyable. The cabin is just too cramped. I admit, much nicer than the CR2, but it still has that small plane feel to it, especially when flying through the rough stuff. I've never considered myself to be claustrophobic, but at times on those CR2/7/9's, to put it mildly, I just can't wait to get off. Interestingly enough, I don't have that issue on the ERJ's, since I can usually snag an "A" seat. That makes a lot of difference. F class on the newer CRJ series is a nice ride...Y leaves a lot to be desired, even with all the improvements made on the newer series.


User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5902 times:

I personally love the CR9. I've always had a exit or an upgrade, but the aircraft are new, stylish, and comfortable...

I just flew JFK-MCI last week(scheduled at 3:53), granted I was in F, but thought the flight was great.


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 3):

I hear ya on that. To be honest, my ATL-ORD flight on the CR9 wasn't even that enjoyable. The cabin is just too cramped. I admit, much nicer than the CR2, but it still has that small plane feel to it, especially when flying through the rough stuff. I've never considered myself to be claustrophobic, but at times on those CR2/7/9's, to put it mildly, I just can't wait to get off. Interestingly enough, I don't have that issue on the ERJ's, since I can usually snag an "A" seat. That makes a lot of difference. F class on the newer CRJ series is a nice ride...Y leaves a lot to be desired, even with all the improvements made on the newer series.

I respectfully disagree... I would say CR9 (esp the new cabin) are as roomy and airy as the E-Jets (E-170/E-190). Is it not great, especially on long flights, but a real improvement in RJ's. Personally, I wish the 717 would have caught on more than the overgrown RJ's... that feels like flying in a real airplane, to me.

As for the ERJs, sitting in A is the worst thing ever (for me), due to the extreme curvature of the airplane. At about 6'4" (1,94m), the only seat I fit into sitting up straight is B, so I'd sooner travel by dog sled than by ERJ.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5851 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 5):
I respectfully disagree... I would say CR9 (esp the new cabin) are as roomy and airy as the E-Jets (E-170/E-190).

Really? Not to dispute your opinion at all, but I've always thought that the E70/90 series feel much more open...and the Y seats always seem bigger on those. Trick of the mind perhaps.


User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 5):
I respectfully disagree... I would say CR9 (esp the new cabin) are as roomy and airy as the E-Jets (E-170/E-190). Is it not great, especially on long flights,

I flew ORD-SLC about a month ago on a CR9 and it was miserable. Three hours is too long on that airplane, and I work for an airline.


User currently offlinegoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6101 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5501 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 5):
I wish the 717 would have caught on more than the overgrown RJ's... that feels like flying in a real airplane, to me.

What's your definition of a "real" airplane, then, if the FAA's definition doesn't work for you?

Apparently, all of those private pilots with AIRPLANE - SINGLE ENGINE LAND or AIRPLANE - MULTIENGINE LAND ratings aren't real pilots, either?

Quoting CWAFlyer (Reply 7):
I flew ORD-SLC about a month ago on a CR9 and it was miserable. Three hours is too long on that airplane, and I work for an airline.

Having flown on Spirit for 2+ hours, I'd say give me an RJ (standard config) for 3+ anyday. Explus makes the deal even more sweet.



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User currently onlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12263 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5421 times:
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Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):
Really? Not to dispute your opinion at all, but I've always thought that the E70/90 series feel much more open...and the Y seats always seem bigger on those. Trick of the mind perhaps.

According to Delta's seatmap:

CR9: Economy class: 17.5 in/31 in
E75: Economy class: 18.2 in/31 in

So the seat is 0.7 inches wider on the Embraer, pitch is the same.

CRJ 900 internal specs:
Cabin width: 8 ft 5 in
Cabin height: 6 ft 2.25 in

Embraer 175 internal specs:
Cabin width: 9ft
Cabin height: 6 ft 7 in



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User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4335 times:

Quoting goldenshield (Reply 8):
Explus makes the deal even more sweet.


While Explus is somewhat better, It wasn't the legroom that was the problem. It was the narrow width of the seats on that long of a flight that is unbearable. To sit with your shoulders sucked in for an entire flight like that is pretty miserable.

[Edited 2010-03-14 18:14:18]

User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4289 times:

I really hope that DL will one day fly the A319 on SLC-ABQ. I remember when DL used to fly the 733 and 738 on the route.


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User currently offlineworldtraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

SLC and the top cities that flow over it generate enormous volumes of traffic for the summer at fairly decent yields but the trend doesn't continue throughout the year. It is doubtul this routes will continue beyond the summer on this equipment unless there is a significant domestic recovery.

User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

Quoting goldenshield (Reply 8):
What's your definition of a "real" airplane, then, if the FAA's definition doesn't work for you?

Apparently, all of those private pilots with AIRPLANE - SINGLE ENGINE LAND or AIRPLANE - MULTIENGINE LAND ratings aren't real pilots, either?

LOL, I think he meant that 717s feel like powerful mainline jets, while CR9s do not. They are clearly both airplanes. Some people who have flown for decades are used to mainline jets and thus flying on them brings a "truer" flying experience similar to that of decades past. You kinda have to be an airplane geek to understand.



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User currently offlinedevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Who is flying the flights, will it be OO.

User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

Quoting devildog2222 (Reply 14):

OO was flying the flights, but now they will be A319s from Delta mainline.



You know nothing Jon Snow
User currently offlinedevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3509 times:

Stupid me, I guess I didn't look closely enough to see it was a change in metal.

User currently offlinegoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6101 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting PanAm788 (Reply 13):
Some people who have flown for decades are used to mainline jets and thus flying on them brings a "truer" flying experience similar to that of decades past. You kinda have to be an airplane geek to understand.

If I'm apparently not an airplane geek, then why am I here? Apparently, despite the ratings I've earned, I'm not as geeky as those who would prefer to stare lazily out the window and sip their champagne.

Flying is flying, is flying. Going from one plane to another is not going to change the experience that you are flying. And let's face it, the economics of flying has changed. Airlines can't afford to have every takeoff like they are launching from an aircraft carrier; it's inefficient to do so---both with fuel, and wear and tear on the engine.



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User currently offlineAEroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting goldenshield (Reply 8):
I flew ORD-SLC about a month ago on a CR9 and it was miserable. Three hours is too long on that airplane, and I work for an airline.

Well soon AA will be dumping the S80 for the MQ CR7 on that route. More 3 three hour CRJ service!


User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Quoting goldenshield (Reply 17):
Flying is flying, is flying. Going from one plane to another is not going to change the experience that you are flying. And let's face it, the economics of flying has changed. Airlines can't afford to have every takeoff like they are launching from an aircraft carrier; it's inefficient to do so---both with fuel, and wear and tear on the engine.

Fair enough point, but I disagree in that an airplane can't make a difference. Flying on an F-15 is not the same as flying on a Cessna although they are both flying. Similarly, though to a lesser degree, flying on a 717 is not the exact same as flying on a CRJ-900. Yes, the economics of flying have changed, hence the less powerful CR9 being popular, no one is denying that. The poster that you originally responded too, FlyDreamliner, just said that he wished the 717 caught on instead of the CR9.



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User currently offlinegoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6101 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Quoting PanAm788 (Reply 19):
The poster that you originally responded too, FlyDreamliner, just said that he wished the 717 caught on instead of the CR9.

And I understand that part, but the way he said it was insulting to all things airplane.



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