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American Eagle SAF-LAX Flights A Failure?  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6474 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

We all know that American Eagle's SAF-DFW flights are a success, however, looking at the SAF-LAX flights, loads still appear to be fairly light, with little to no improvement since November. Is it still to early to call the route a failure?

I know that the film industry has been asking for this route, however, this doesn't appear to be the case based on the loads. I can see why DFW would be a success since it provides a whole lot of connection opportunities to many destinations in the U.S. as well as some international destinations. The SAF-LAX flight was more to cater to O&D passengers.


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User currently offlineworldtraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

do you have data to quantify 'light" ?

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22877 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
The SAF-LAX flight was more to cater to O&D passengers.

Isn't/wasn't it also to bridge ERJs to LAX?



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User currently offlinecrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

I wouldn't definitively say that this flight is a failure. It could be, it could not be, we don't know yet. However, I did once post in another thread that there is a disproportionately high amount of O&D traffic on this route, at least as far as I know. This definitely helps the yields and so I wouldn't be surprised if this route does fairly well despite the (relatively low) loads sometimes. Additionally, there are definitely many days here and there where this flight goes out full. Helped by the O&D traffic and the relative price premium on this flight, it could definitely be a winner.

User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Don't look at load factors alone to determine whether a route is successful or not. The yields are going to determine whether the route is successful or not. You can have a full plane and lose money and you can have a light load and make money. SAF-LAX sounds like more of an O&D route as opposed to a connecting route such as SAF-DFW. Most O&D routes make more money than a route fed by connections because the revenue on a connection has to be shared between two or more flights. I would not be one bit surprised if SAF-LAX makes more money with empty seats than SAF-DFW running full all the time.

User currently offlineAEroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Quoting crosswinds21 (Reply 3):
Isn't/wasn't it also to bridge ERJs to LAX?

The SAF/ROW-LAX flights are a way to get the ERJ's to and from DFW/ABI for mechanical reasons without having to ferry the planes.


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