aa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3348 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17829 times:
With IT joining oneworld, CX an IT could partner up. How accomodating are the Hong Kong and Indian transportation authorities in allowing JBVs (Joint Business Ventures) betwen carriers in the region?
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17762 times:
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10696 posts, RR: 100 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 17271 times:
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): IT 041 DEL - DXB 1925 2125 3h30mins
IT 042 DXB - DEL 2240 0350+1 3h40mins
First, do I read this correct in that both are A320's?
I'm curious if IT has any Oneworld connections at DXB they could exploit? I have trouble coming up with connections off the top of my head that wouldn't already have excellent non-stop service from BOM and DEL.
smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 16797 times:
I wonder if we could see IT in Australia over the next couple of years? I am still surprised that we don't see an Indian carrier here in MEL or in SYD, I understand that QF can't because it would be uneconomical for the to compete with TG, SQ, and MH on cost basis (although they did have SYD-BOM for a while which has changed to BNE-SIN-BOM), but surely an Indian carrier could? and QF could feed the IT services as well...
skyhigh From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 234 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 15432 times:
I wonder if a flight originating in Bangalore en roue to Australia would make more sense than BOM or DEL. Being further south it would enable people to connect without necessarily having to fly over their intended destination.
Does Bangalore offer good regional connections such as the South of India, Goa and Sri Lanka?
IT 025 DEL - BKK 0130 0715 4hrs15mins
IT 026 BKK - DEL 2000 2245 4hrs15mins
Why're the planes standing on the tarmac for over 12hrs in most cities? It's also the case with their BOM-SIN flights. Is there a specific reason for paying so much parking fees?
Airlines are in the service business, not transport. Brand matters...
lukeyboy95 From Papua New Guinea, joined Apr 2008, 951 posts, RR: 35 Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 14883 times:
Superb news for IT... This is just theexpansion they needed, though they don't half choose uber competitive routes...
The Dubai advatnage may be connecting labourers/ workers in Dubai can fly to almost any destination across India. Even though EK have alot of bases covered, IT may seem a more attractive option and can take people closer to home...
Quoting ag92 (Reply 7): Now the question is, why are the Delhi timings better then Bombay timings?
BOM timings seem to fit quite well into connecting LHR services which is a really logical connection given how well QR and EK are doing with connecting BKK services. BOM may be their prefered connecting point for BKK passengers, whilst the Delhi market may be able to stand up on its own without the connection as the timings are pretty sweet...
BCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 14831 times:
Quoting ag92 (Reply 7): Now the question is, why are the Delhi timings better then Bombay timings?
The BOM - BKK - BOM flights are timed to connect to BOM - LHR - BOM flight in both directions, which would explain the choice of schedules. Same for DEL - KTM - DEL.
ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2787 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 14054 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 3): First, do I read this correct in that both are A320's?
Yes, 2 class A320s
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 3): I'm curious if IT has any Oneworld connections at DXB they could exploit? I have trouble coming up with connections off the top of my head that wouldn't already have excellent non-stop service from BOM and DEL.
No, the timings are the best O-D timings on the India - Gulf route which is the top reason. If any connections come in place, well and good.
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 9): BOM timings seem to fit quite well into connecting LHR services which is a really logical connection given how well QR and EK are doing with connecting BKK services. BOM may be their prefered connecting point for BKK passengers, whilst the Delhi market may be able to stand up on its own without the connection as the timings are pretty sweet...
9W offers LHR - BKK through BOM (2 daily options) as well as through DEL. AI offers LHR - BKK through BOM as well as through DEL. It is upto the Indian authorities to promote India more and get more traffic on the LON - BKK sector.
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sankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1322 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13288 times:
Quoting BCA2005 (Reply 10): The BOM - BKK - BOM flights are timed to connect to BOM - LHR - BOM flight in both directions, which would explain the choice of schedules. Same for DEL - KTM - DEL.
Understand the scheduling is good from an aircraft utilization standpoint.
But are they also targetting BKK-LHR O&D pax (as the posts above seem to imply)? Why would anyone want to fly BKK-LHR via BOM (or any other intermediate point for that matter), other than what are typically low yield leisure travellers who are attracted by the idea of stopover in India (in which case they would presumably break journey for a few days and therefore the flights do not really need to connect)?
tonyban From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12481 times:
When do we expect to see this 5* airline grace the shores of the USA ???
abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 55 Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10929 times:
Quoting skyhigh (Reply 5): I wonder if a flight originating in Bangalore en roue to Australia would make more sense than BOM or DEL. Being further south it would enable people to connect without necessarily having to fly over their intended destination.
Does Bangalore offer good regional connections such as the South of India, Goa and Sri Lanka?
Quoting smi0006 (Reply 4): wonder if we could see IT in Australia over the next couple of years? I am still surprised that we don't see an Indian carrier here in MEL or in SYD, I understand that QF can't because it would be uneconomical for the to compete with TG, SQ, and MH on cost basis (although they did have SYD-BOM for a while which has changed to BNE-SIN-BOM), but surely an Indian carrier could? and QF could feed the IT services as well...
= 9W can get better yields by feeding QF at SIN from various points in India. I would expect more 9W 738 flying to SIN from other parts of India in the next few months.
aa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3348 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10812 times:
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 17): = 9W can get better yields by feeding QF at SIN from various points in India. I would expect more 9W 738 flying to SIN from other parts of India in the next few months.
Im sure that QF and 9W wwill begin winding down their relationship as IT is expected to join oneworld next year!
IT will hopefully start to get feed from CX, QF, BA and AA.
blrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 577 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10729 times:
Quoting VIDP (Reply 15): Maybe wen VJM gets more of his A332 birds
abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 55 Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10304 times:
Quoting aa1818 (Reply 18): Im sure that QF and 9W wwill begin winding down their relationship as IT is expected to join oneworld next year!
IT will hopefully start to get feed from CX, QF, BA and AA.
AA1818
= That would be logical ... perhaps 9W launches DEL-MEL ...
smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7407 times:
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 20): That would be logical ... perhaps 9W launches DEL-MEL ...
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I think this is a very viable option or other combinations of Australia and India SQ, TG and EK for sure all transport huge amounts of Indian bound pax, many Indian nationals do they have a distinct preference for Indian carriers at all? I feel this is a hugely untapped market for Indian carriers whos lower coste will allow them to make preofits that QF can't!
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1546 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7332 times:
Quoting blrBird (Reply 19): Does IT have more A332's on order book?
25 WINGS: Airbus lists Kingfisher as having the following wide-body's on order. A330-200 x 15 A345-500 x 2 A350-800 x 5 A380-800 x 5 Regards, Wings
26 VIDP: Bingo any clue when are the deliveries scheduled.
27 Cricket: IT's next batch of Airbus A330's are scheduled for next year IIRC. Not a bad plan, but sad to see that IT has abandoned making BLR their international
28 LondonCity: It does seem logical but are there as many members of the Indian middle classes travelling nowadays ? I thought the economic downturn had depressed t
29 behramjee: They should order few A 333s and use them instead of the A 332 on the flagship India-LHR routes as those routes can easily take on the extra capacity
30 sankaps: Isn't the conventional wisdom that there is too much capacity already on India-LHR though?
31 BeyondBristol: Just a curious question for those with BA/QF knowledge...how well do the BKK flights connect with BA/QF Australia services?
32 AirNiugini: Qantas have flown a direct SYD - BOM flight in the past, but have now switched to BOM via SIN. Is this because it was unprofitable? or is it just log
33 smi0006: I was under the impresion that it was unprofitable, did they still have the tech stop in DRW that they had at some point? I remember oneway they did.
34 AirNiugini: Yeah man, I think QF can only make it viable to go via SIN to open up the market to the rest of Australia with its connections. Considering there is
35 smi0006: I wonder how Indian pax would react to JQ considering the service offered by IT and 9W on domestic flights? Does anyone have any insight?
36 ojas: Slight corrections to the BKK schedule; which is 6 weekly and not daily IT 023 BOM - BKK 1305 1905 4hrs20mins IT 024 BKK - BOM 0830 1125 4hrs25mins I
37 ojas: Another correction to the above: BOM/DEL - KTM will be a single class operation (all Economy A320)
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