747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 15132 times:
After UA decided to replace their 744s with A350 900XWBs, I was thinking, that DL 744 fleet is older than UA 744 fleet. DL may have plans to replace their 744 fleet, so I wonder, what would be the best a/c to replace DL 744 fleet?
My vote: 748I, A350 1000XWB and I personally hope not, but 77W. I pulling for 748I or A350 1000XWB.
aviationbuff08 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14022 times:
Quoting col (Reply 3): 380's please, you just can't beat that smooth quiet ride!!
Not likely since Mr. Anderson already was asked this question, he replied "they (A380) are simply way to big to make money with" I doubt the Next CEO will have a different opinion on this matter.. but who knows.
Since they have already stated that they intend to install lie flat seat in Business class, and AVOD in Y, I seriously doubt they are going to retire the 744 fleet within the next 5-10 years. Its going to take a year just to make the mods to the entire 16 aircraft they have.
I would guess your going to have to wait another 5 years before DL makes any new aircraft orders as they have previously stated that they want to pay down the debt for the next 5 years rather that buy new aircraft and increase their debt.
My bets are on either 77W or the 748's. Highly doubt it will be an airbus since DL hasn't ever ordered airbus aircraft themselves, rather just aquired them through mergers.
RJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 13906 times:
Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 8): My bets are on either 77W or the 748's. Highly doubt it will be an airbus since DL hasn't ever ordered airbus aircraft themselves, rather just aquired them through mergers.
Actually they have ordered Airbus themselves (A310s) and they like their inherited A330s.
Given the 744s are going to hang around for a while i would say the A351 has a chance.
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13878 times:
DL uses these aircraft for Asia flights only. So the answer is to find in what is going on in Asia, not in the US.
Provided the Japanese economy turns around and air travel increases again, slots will be gone soon, will get expensive and the bigger the aircraft the better.
Provided the Japanese economy stays in agonie and air travel remains at current level, then there is no need for extra capacity, the needs of the US side will dominate that dictate higher frequency and I see 777s, maybe even 772ER or 77W.
Since all this is unknown for at least 3 years, they should not bother now.
Conti764 From Belgium, joined Dec 2007, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13623 times:
Maybe a dumb question, but I'm only an aviation rookie... I wonder if it's possible to give an older 744 a midlife update with new generation engines and some new enhancements which are relatively easy to incorporate from the 748i?
I mean, Boeing offers the 748i as replacement, but that plane isn't actually selling like a rocket and which the huge number of 744's flying around Boeing could at least expand the life of the 'Queen Mother'... And in that way, keep those customers on board and tackle some potential A380-orders?
dtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13513 times:
Quoting Delta763 (Reply 13): I could be wrong, but I thought those were outstanding orders from Pan Am that were delivered after the acquisition.
Delta Plans to Buy Its First Planes From Airbus
Aerospace: The order for nine jetliners marks a major victory for the European consortium, which is trying to increase its market share in the United States.
March 10, 1992|From Reuters
PARIS — Airbus Industrie, which has long set its sights on the U.S. market, has won a solid victory with Delta Air Lines Inc.'s order for nine medium- to long-haul A310-300s, industry analysts said Monday.
The order, Airbus' first from Delta, secures the four-nation West European consortium a place with one of the most sought-after airline customers in the United States, they said.
Quoting United1 (Reply 7): He might be right DL parked a good number of 763s with the new interior (AVOD ect) if the economy starts to tank again the 744 fleet stands a decent chance of being, at least partially, parked.
dl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11507 times:
DL will not order the A350 or the A380. Most likely they will go for the 777-300 if it happens because it will keep pilot commonality with the existing 777s in the fleet. DL could use multiple 787 flights instead of a 744 flight but the 77W seems most probable. Grasping at straws would be the 748, if DL finds they need something the size of the 744 I could see them going with the 748 but never the A380
Note that this list does not include the 747-8 nor the A380. The A321, A340, and A350 are also absent from this list. If Delta even thought there was a remote chance of ordering some of those aircraft, it would have been pre-negotiated before the merger. Note that Delta doesn't currently operate some these types (such as the ERJ-190/195 and 739/739ER), and some of these types have been retired (such as the 732/733). They even negotiated a mainline CRJ-900 payscale.
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