NEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 680 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3477 times:
I have just checked on behalf of a friend this morning, what aircraft type he will be flying with AA from LHW to LAX this weekend. I guessed it would be a triple 7 and it seems that is the case. He was desperate to find it would be a 747 as he has never been on one and, i couldnt even picture one now with the AA logo on, so it lead me to do a basic check.
Because this is not an area where i normally find my interest in aviation, i was unaware until this morning, that AA for example, (unless my information is wrong), no longer has any 4 engined aircraft in their fleet such as the 747.
As a world carrier, this surprises me. I know we could pick out some smaller nations having only twins in their fleet, but are there any other Big Nationals that dont use 4 engines any more?
There isnt really a dark side to the moon, as a matter of fact its all dark!
VgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1492 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3466 times:
Well hear in the US, CO doesn't operate them anymore, and prior to the DL/NW merger DL didn't either.
Your operating economics and route structure (among other things) determine what types of aircraft you operate, not how many engines the aircraft has or how big your country is.
bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5983 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3374 times:
Define a National carrier. I can think of many large carriers that do not fly 4 engine aircraft. In North America, there are only two large carriers that do fly them.
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
There are a lot of national carriers of small countries that certainly do not have 4-engined aircraft, but as far as "big" nationals go:
Mexicana AND AeroMexico
China Southern - Asia's largest airline...they DO have A380's on order, I believe
Alitalia
Aer Lingus
Brussels Airlines
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3036 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3104 times:
Quoting NEMA (Thread starter): He was desperate to find it would be a 747 as he has never been on one and, i couldnt even picture one now with the AA logo on, so it lead me to do a basic check.
IIRC, AA hasn't had the 747s since the late 80s/early 90s, before the MD11s were delivered. I believe that's also the last time AA had a four engined aircraft.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21498 posts, RR: 24 Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2645 times:
Quoting 777STL (Reply 8): Quoting NEMA (Thread starter):
He was desperate to find it would be a 747 as he has never been on one and, i couldnt even picture one now with the AA logo on, so it lead me to do a basic check.
IIRC, AA hasn't had the 747s since the late 80s/early 90s, before the MD11s were delivered. I believe that's also the last time AA had a four engined aircraft.
AA's last 4-engine aircraft were the 2 747SPs acquired from TWA in 1987 when they were awarded the DFW-NRT route but had nothing that could operate it. The 2 SPs were sold in 1992 and 1993 after the MD-11s arrived. Prior to the 2 SPs, AA had already been without 4-engine aircraft for about 3 years after the last of their 747-100s were sold.
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2420 times:
UltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1994 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
TAM/VARIG/GOL (VARIG was once the nat'l carrier of Brazil, now owned by GOL; TAM is the only one flying TATL) don't either (Or does TAM still have their -345s?). If they do, then I guess VARIG/GOL would be another addition.
B727fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
But I think the correct answer to this question is, that due to the ideological nonsense of privatization and liberalization there are no national carriers left, at least no big one. For me a national carrier is more than 50% state owned.
So Aeroflot might be the only national carrier to fly 4 holers, the Il86 and Il96. Are the big Chinese airlines still state owned?
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1739 times:
Quoting B727fan (Reply 16): Doesn't Iran Air still fly ancient 747s?
Yes, they still have 4 747SP and 1 747-100 (I think?).
alwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1462 times:
TAME (Ecuador) is the national carrier…………..most they´ve got is 3 holers.
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