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CRJ 1000 Resume Flight Testing  
User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7654 times:

According to Flight Global CRJ1000NG has started testflying again. EIS targeted before the end of January 2011. I was starting to worry that the project would at one point be cancelled because of few ordrers and the CS100 being only 3 years from EIS. But nice too see the loooooooooooooooong CRJ resuming flight testing.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-resumes-crj1000-flight-tests.html


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User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7590 times:

I wonder if Lear ever had any idea that the "widebodied" Bizjet (which was intended to have a regional airliner derivative) would be developed over so many variations? Definitely the DC-9 / MD8X-9X / 717 of this era in aviation!

Although we will never see the numbers that we did with the (whiplash/back problem windowed) CRJ100-200, its great to see the line continue for a while yet.



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User currently offlineplanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7304 times:

Quoting rikkus67 (Reply 1):
I wonder if Lear ever had any idea that the "widebodied" Bizjet (which was intended to have a regional airliner derivative)

Just FYI, it wasn't ever Lear's vision, nor his hope, that the Learstar 600 would become an RJ. When Canadair designed a wider fuselage than Lear's design, Lear called it "Fat Albert" and walked away from the project in disgust.

The "real father" of the CRJ is considered to be Eric McConachie who is in the Canadian Aviation Hall of Fame. He pioneered the RJ concept when Canadair was still owned by the Canadian government but left before BBD was given Canadair. BBD later hired him to run the CRJ program.

“His creative aptitude as an innovator, his skills as a market analyst, and his success in initiating the concept of the Regional Jet and following it through to test flight have greatly benefited aviation in Canada.”

http://www.cahf.ca/Members%20and%20B...rs.htm#Charles%20Eric%20McConachie



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7093 times:

Quoting planemaker (Reply 2):
The "real father" of the CRJ is considered to be Eric McConachie who is in the Canadian Aviation Hall of Fame. He pioneered the RJ concept when Canadair was still owned by the Canadian government but left before BBD was given Canadair. BBD later hired him to run the CRJ program.

And because of him more people are miserable flying.



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User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6606 times:

The prototype was here at TUL on Tuesday all afternoon. It was doing full landings/taxis. I was kicking myself that I didn't have my camera. Pretty sharp looking aircraft.

Danny



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6599 times:
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So that's why the first production aircraft has been so elusive for the past half year... it was grounded. I was worried that the whole programme had been dropped (not that I can afford to order 10 of them anyway, but still...  )

I hope Air Nostrum will take all 35 aircraft, as I believe that they will be quite useful for routes in Spain, with lower capacity but more frequencies to combat the fierce competition there. The CRJ900NG seems to be quite well accepted with its new cabin, which appears to be slightly more comfortable for most pax, and the CRJ1000 have the potential to be that as well.

I have always been a fan of the CRJ700/900 and found the aircraft just as comfortable as a B737, space-wise as a passenger. Now I work as a flight attendant on the B737CL/NG and sometimes feel rather squashed in the galleys, so I now fully understand why some CRJ FAs complain at times.

Will the CRJ1000 be a profitable machine with "only" 92-96 seats or must it have 100 seats to earn money?

Best wishes for the CRJ1000 - you fly, girl  



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User currently offlineplanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 6215 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
Will the CRJ1000 be a profitable machine with "only" 92-96 seats or must it have 100 seats to earn money?

There is no reason why it should not... particularly in Europe. The breakeven LF will depend upon the route.



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3926 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/C-FRJX_CRJ_1000.jpg

That really is a looong-looking jet!


User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5995 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 7):
That really is a looong-looking jet!

Sheesh! Raise it up a little and you got yourself a mad-dog!



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User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5989 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 3):
And because of him more people are miserable flying.

True, but at least those people are "flying". Without the CRJ/ERJ a lot of the routes the RJs fly on would be unprofitable to the carriers that fly them.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15778 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5963 times:

Quoting westindian425 (Reply 8):
Sheesh! Raise it up a little and you got yourself a mad-dog!
Quoting Vasu (Reply 7):
That really is a looong-looking jet!

The CRJ-1000 is 9 feet longer than a DC-9-30 and 5 feet shorter than a DC-9-50. In practical terms, that will probably cause it to take longer to get pax on and off.



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User currently offlineplanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6240 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5919 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 7):
That really is a looong-looking jet!

Imagine, that is what everyone said when the stretched the 900.

Quoting AKelley728 (Reply 9):
True, but at least those people are "flying". Without the CRJ/ERJ a lot of the routes the RJs fly on would be unprofitable to the carriers that fly them.

They would be using turboprops. The SAAB 2000 was a great aircraft.



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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5849 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
The CRJ900NG seems to be quite well accepted with its new cabin, which appears to be slightly more comfortable for most pax, and the CRJ1000 have the potential to be that as well.

It seems like it does not get the same complaints as theCRJ100/200 recieved. I have not had the pleasure of flying one my self, but several people I know that need the space says they fly comfortable on the SAS CRJ-900.

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
Will the CRJ1000 be a profitable machine with "only" 92-96 seats or must it have 100 seats to earn money?

Imagine a SAS CRJ-1000 with 98 seats. That would require no more F/A than on the CRJ-900, and with almost the same weight, that plane would be very efficient.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10):
The CRJ-1000 is 9 feet longer than a DC-9-30 and 5 feet shorter than a DC-9-50. In practical terms, that will probably cause it to take longer to get pax on and off.

But since it is just a 4 seats across, there are less passenger to fill the aisle than compared to the DC-9-30. However the DC-9 enjoyed the stair way back in the plane that made for faster turn/around. Not sure how fast the CRJ-1000 would be turned around, but I would imagine that 20 minutes would not be impossible?



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5403 times:
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Quoting oykie (Reply 12):
It seems like it does not get the same complaints as theCRJ100/200 recieved. I have not had the pleasure of flying one my self, but several people I know that need the space says they fly comfortable on the SAS CRJ-900.

I have heard that too, that the SAS CRJ900 are very nice and comfy. They have options for 12-15 more I believe, hope they order more.

I also hope BBD plans to show off the CRJ1000 at an air show, and that they deck out the cabin with all the trimmings - slimline seats for bigger pitch, drop-down LCD screens, big galley with steam ovens and cappuccino machine to make the aircraft appear more "mainline".



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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

It's the DC-8-70 of regional jets!

Excuse me while I spew.  

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport


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