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New Rocky Point Airport (Puerto Peñasco, Mexico)  
User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 13050 times:

This is kind of old news, but they were relatively hush hush about this and don't remember anybody mentioning it here, so here you go:

Quote:
November 5, 2009 – International Airport Grand Opening Puerto Peñasco, Sonora (Rocky Point)

It was a beautiful sight and a harbinger of what is to come. On the runway sat two large commercial planes from Aeromexico and Interjet and stewardess crews clad in blue walked the glass terminal. Tessoro at Las Conchas’ banner hung proudly on the tarmac, representing the future of luxury development in this growing beach community. Then, out of the North, landed an elegant Boeing 757 flying the colors of Mexico.

The Mar de Cortes International Airport was formally opened on November 5 in Puerto Peñasco. Dignitaries from all over Mexico flew in for the event and Mexican President Felipe Calderón presided over the ceremony. Sonoran Governor Guillermo Padres and Puerto Peñasco Mayor Alejandro Zepeda watched proudly as their beach destination became national and international news.

Private and charter flights opened last week and a commercial schedule is expected in early 2010. Interjet and Aeromexico are expected to be the first carriers to service the airport. These and several American airlines are in negotiations with the airport operators.
http://www.tessoro.com.mx/in-around-...penasco/new-international-airport/

Some pics:

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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5499 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 12996 times:

Man, the area surrounding the airport seems so desolate. How far is it from the beach?

I think it's pretty cool to see the desert meet the water. Does it get ridiculously hot there on the coast in the summer?


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 12986 times:

Quoting Continental (Reply 1):
How far is it from the beach?

Not terribly far, 15 minutes as the crow flies. you can see a satellite picture of it still under construction.

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&q=31....299427&spn=0.026424,0.055747&z=15

Quoting Continental (Reply 1):
Does it get ridiculously hot there on the coast in the summer?

Not as hot as other places in the state but it will go over 100F occasionally.


User currently offlineplanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 12978 times:

"Airport of Dreams".......Build it and they will come.

User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 12983 times:

Quoting Continental (Reply 1):
Man, the area surrounding the airport seems so desolate. How far is it from the beach?

I think it's pretty cool to see the desert meet the water. Does it get ridiculously hot there on the coast in the summer?

I guess so. Never been there, but supposedly the climate is similar to that of Saudi Arabia or the UAE. These photos confirm that to a certain extent.   


User currently offlinejohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2561 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 12891 times:

Interesting to see them building an airport here.
Lots of folks from Arizona drive here for the beach, but I had no idea there was enough tourism for commercial flights.


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 12892 times:

Quoting planefxr (Reply 3):
"Airport of Dreams".......Build it and they will come.

Oh they came alright:

http://www.exchangehomes.com/home-photos/3511/DSCF3725.JPG



Supposedly according to analysts if Rocky Point maintains its explosive growth it could very well match CUN in less than 20 years.

And less than 30 years ago CUN was little more than a mostly inaccessible desolate beach.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 4):
These photos confirm that to a certain extent.

It looks hotter than it is really. Average high is 38C. Not much warmer than CUN. Though for me hot doesn't actually start until over 45C   

At least the ocean is nearby to keep things a bit cooler.

Down in HMO, where it is a lot less desolate, every summer it will go up just shy of 50C (120F)

[Edited 2010-03-19 13:48:27]

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16931 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 12884 times:

Quoting planefxr (Reply 3):
"Airport of Dreams".......Build it and they will come.

Problem is it's mostly a drive market from Arizona, and with the border areas under high alert from drug violence, I don't think many are driving. Who is actually serving/going to serve this airport?



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User currently offlineplanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 12805 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 6):
Oh they came alright:


Thanks for all the great photos FLY2HMO, I might just have to add this destination to the list.


User currently offlineviajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 12763 times:
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Looks like it will be a nice resort area, which will attract many tourists, including those from the U.S.,regardless of the borderland situation. As far as the airport itself, I have a couple of questions :1) Are they planning to install jet bridges or increase the terminal size consistent with the expected level of commercial service? 2) How much of the surrounding real estate is available for future expansion? Regardless, It's great to see such large scale developments such as this being undertaken here in Mexico. Vive Puerto Penasco and Mar de Cortes International!

User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 12727 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 6):
Oh they came alright:

The place looks amazing but who in their right mind is traveling to Mexico right now! I used to be a huge fan of Mexico and PVR specifically for vacation but with all this drug violence right now its just not safe. I don't want to end up kidnapped and my head cut off because the Mexican government cannot control the corruption long enough to clean this mess up. With the tens of millions the US gives Mexico every year to deal with this crap its amazing to me that the problem is only getting worse with time.......



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User currently offlinerktsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 12719 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 7):
Problem is it's mostly a drive market from Arizona, and with the border areas under high alert from drug violence, I don't think many are driving.

MANY are driving. Our next door neighbors drive down twice a month and are joined by multiple other families every time.


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 12685 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 10):
but who in their right mind is traveling to Mexico right now! I used to be a huge fan of Mexico and PVR specifically for vacation but with all this drug violence right now its just not safe.

Been living here for over 20 years without a scratch. And no I don't live in a bunker or walk around with a bullet proof vest. In fact, I've heard more random gun fire while in the states than here. Granted, where I live it is not nearly as bad as other places. But still, this isn't Iraq or Afghanistan.


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 792 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 12683 times:
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Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 10):
The place looks amazing but who in their right mind is traveling to Mexico right now! I used to be a huge fan of Mexico and PVR specifically for vacation but with all this drug violence right now its just not safe

It is a shame that so many Americans are thinking this way! It's true there is a major problem, but the Mexican resort areas are safe. Drug violence in Mexico is being hyped by the US media, and is limited to border towns and non resort areas. Mexicans are going out of there way (as always) to make International tourists welcome. IMHO even the drug cartels realize the value of the tourist dollar and leave the resort areas alone. We need to support Mexico tourism, thousands depend on it.

I feel safer in PVR and CUN than in Miami Beach or Atlantic City, and I am adding Puerto Penasco to my list of places to go!

Tomas in SJC



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User currently offlineplanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 12624 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 13):
Drug violence in Mexico is being hyped by the US media

It is the media's flavor of the month, they gotta get people to watch the news, advertising dollars are shrinking.


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 792 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 12611 times:
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Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 10):
With the tens of millions the US gives Mexico every year to deal with this crap

But you forgot to mention the millions of dollars that the druggies in the US give to support the drug cartels in Mexico!  



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User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12599 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 13):
It is a shame that so many Americans are thinking this way! It's true there is a major problem, but the Mexican resort areas are safe. Drug violence in Mexico is being hyped by the US media, and is limited to border towns and non resort areas. Mexicans are going out of there way (as always) to make International tourists welcome. IMHO even the drug cartels realize the value of the tourist dollar and leave the resort areas alone. We need to support Mexico tourism, thousands depend on it.

I feel safer in PVR and CUN than in Miami Beach or Atlantic City, and I am adding Puerto Penasco to my list of places to go!

I used to think like you until I started seeing real numbers and proof that the violence is spreading to these resort locations (look at what happened in CUN this weekend). There is no doubt that without American tourists NON of the Mexican resort towns could stay viable but the fact remains that the government isn't doing enough to stop the violence. I also disagree with you about the American coverage of the drug wars, I don't think that there is enough coverage and I don't believe that most Americans know about the things going on along the boarder. I don't believe that Americans would tolerate what is going on down their if they knew. If this story was more public I have no doubt that our American government would be forced to deal with it and we would be deploying forces not only to our boarder in huge numbers but also into Mexico to put an end to this mess.

I actually would like to see more coverage and a forced response from the military to deal with this. These drug cartels are living in a lawless world where they are god and they need to be knocked down into the hell they deserve. They have put fear into the Mexican citizens who struggle everyday just to make it and its time someone put fear into them and had them looking over their back everyday not knowing when their lives would end. I'm just upset that International law stops us from giving these cowards a Texas style death penalty. I wouldn't mind seeing the electric chair come back to pay them a visit........

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 12):
Granted, where I live it is not nearly as bad as other places. But still, this isn't Iraq or Afghanistan.

Iraq and Afghanistan are not big vacation hot spots right now either but I will give that to you, Mexico is no where near that bad! I also agree with you that in the majority of cases you will not be hurt by this cartel war but that is still not a chance I am willing to take with my family. I think the beaches of Naples FL are much more safe so we will go there for now!



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User currently offlinefalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12597 times:

Been making the drive from Scottsdale to Rocky Point for the past few years, usually going 3 or 4 times throughout the summer. It's an easy drive but I will say that the 10 or 15 minutes it takes to go through Sonoyta can be unsettling. It intersects with a major thruway from Hermosillo to the US that is a known drug route. I've never felt unsafe in Rocky Point, be it in town or at the resort, but safety is a legitimate concern anywhere in Mexico right now and the resorts are not necessarily immune. The hype about violence in Mexico is not overblown, the recent incident in Acapulco should be of concern. To say that Miami or Atlantic City is not as safe is not a fair criticism, I'm a Miami native and it's like any other city around, you have to watch yourself. Any city in the world can have bad areas. As far as flights go, I'd consider it. US Airways would probably be most likely to offer some sort of service, similar to its flights from PHX to Guaymas. If the fare structure is comparable to the Guaymas flights, it will not get people out of their cars.


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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12584 times:

Alright people lets stay on topic...   

User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12577 times:

I was there in February.... I think it can be more like Cabo San Lucas..... SJD... In 10 years or so.. I will be back... It is definitely a low key destination... with excellent food...



DCA
User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 792 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12552 times:
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Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 18):

Alright people lets stay on topic...

yes...sorry!

Quoting falcon flyer (Reply 17):
US Airways would probably be most likely to offer some sort of service

Could there be any demand for domestic Mexico service... i.e MX Link/AM Connect from GDL or MEX?



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12538 times:

I was there about 25 years ago to thaw out after ski bumming in Colorado for the winter and there were two shacks on the beach. My how times have changed. I am glad to see it getting a little respect.


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User currently offlineaaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1507 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12515 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 7):
Who is actually serving/going to serve this airport?
AM Connect briefly flew LAX - PPE (old airport???) twice weekly during later '07 / early '08. AM recently filed for renewal of its authority to fly the route, but I doubt there are imminent plans to resume the service.

[Edited 2010-03-19 17:44:44]


With a choice between changing one's mind & proving there's no need to do so, most everyone gets busy on the proof.
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16931 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 12498 times:

Quoting aaway (Reply 22):
AM Connect briefly flew LAX - PPE (old airport???) twice weekly during later '07 / early '08.

Yeah I think it did about as well as ABQCUU 



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User currently offlineteneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 12417 times:

Looking at google maps there appears to be a small airfield with a narrow paved runway and a small tarmac just north of Puerto Penasco.

25 Post contains images Fly2HMO : That's the old airport. It is now closed. A pic: AM connect flew in there briefly. I don't know if there's any scheduled commercial ops in the new ai
26 EA CO AS : Actually, Puerto Penasco's numbers are up from last year. They're down relative to previous years, yes, but then again ALL of Mexico is "on sale" rig
27 wedgetail737 : So how does the country of Mexico get rid of this perception. I've read that Mexico was considered more dangerous than Iraq...that was two or so year
28 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Up from 50% from 6 people last year;- If AM couldn't make a Saab to LAX work, I'm not sure anyone else is interested just yet. They have a dozen peop
29 LAXLocal : We've been spending time in Rocky Point for over 18 years. Love the place. Even now living in Los Angeles, don't mind the drive.( Used to live in Scot
30 RobertS975 : [Mexico develops their newer resort deetinations with a lot of government/private cooperation, as was the case in Cancun. One of the most recent resor
31 wedgetail737 : That could be, but QX could benefit from connections from DL and their own flights from the PNW...perhaps on a seasonal basis. Believe me, winters ar
32 EA CO AS : Okay laugh all you want, but fact of the matter is that it's an INCREDIBLY popular tourist destination for those of us living in Arizona - and it's b
33 mtnwest1979 : Great Lakes Airlines already had that honor. MId/ late '90s had flights from there to TUS (or PHX), when they had their operation in the Desert SW. O
34 DesertAir : Thanks for the pictures. While living in Tucson, AZ I went to Rocky Point just about every year. It was a four hour drive. I usually stayed in town in
35 netjetsintl : I was in Cabo for the first time 20 years ago. Little fishing village, that was all I saw... now look at it, somedays there isn't enough room to park
36 chrisair : Problem is, Rocky Point had a nasty speculative real estate market. Most of the condos are "owned" by Americans (technically they can't own the land)
37 DesertJets : After a day where it barely got out of the 30s that sounds pretty damn good. Warm sunny weather, the aforementioned tacos, a bucket of cold Dos Equis
38 4holer : Wildcard to the flights success: In the current condition of the drug wars and reports of people driving there getting carjacked at gunpoint between t
39 Post contains links Byrdluvs747 : Unfortunately this airport is a tribute to how slow things can move in Mexico. I've been watching and posting(Why Is PPE Ignored..., PPE: Pictures Of.
40 Tomassjc : Cabo has this set up until 2 years ago and it was a nightmare, especially on holiday weekends. I remember we actually had ATC holds departing the US.
41 MaverickM11 : Yeah, but obviously you guys aren't flying; how long is a drive from PHX?
42 FLYAWA : Nice runway out by the Mayan Palace. PPE is the ocean-front property in Arizona you thought didn't exist. It's only a 3 and half hour drive from Phoen
43 YXD172 : I think a weekly charter would be very beneficial, once Rocky Point has the resorts to sustain it. A flight from western Canada might be the key, as
44 ScottB : It's not a drive-to destination from SoCal because it's over 800 miles from the border. Baja is a very, very long peninsula. The biggest advantage Ca
45 Post contains images Fly2HMO : Very unlikely. It is extremely rare for hurricanes to get into the Gulf of California (as it is known in Mexico), only has happened 5 times or so in
46 johnboy : A bit off-topic, but why was the name, "Mar de Cortes" chosen for the airport? I thought "Gulf of California" was the much-preferred term also. Sound
47 Byrdluvs747 : I was referring to CUN being wiped away. I disagree. You cant manufacture the type of beaches they have in Quintana Roo. Yes, the Hotel Zone in CUN i
48 Post contains links chrisair : I think the only way to get to Rocky Point from So Cal is to drop through Arizona. There's no real good trans-Baja highway in Mexico. There is, but i
49 bjorn14 : And the roads aren't terribly great either.
50 Post contains links and images Fly2HMO : I guess. Who knows. Well obviously I actually meant to keep the beach part out of my quote. At any rate, as many have said already, PPE caters to AZ/
51 bjorn14 : Just wondering if the new airport is keeping PPE or was it assigned AMC (which is someplace in Chad)?
52 Fly2HMO : Not sure yet. There are no jeppesen charts out for the airport just yet and I can't find any other official aeronautical information on the airport.
53 Post contains links bjorn14 : They are I just found this...albeit it's just a press release...makes sense if the old airport is closing. http://eon.businesswire.com/portal/s...&am
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