flyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 630 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10807 times:
Interesting read:
==Reykjavik, Iceland-Kristján L. Möller the minister of tourism and transport announced today that Icelandair is looking to expand further into the North American market.''North America has become a very important area for our National airline'' he explained as he spoke with his fellow country mates.He then went on to explain that ''Canada and the U.S.A continue to draw a large number of Icelandics for several reasons, among them shopping, festivals, and a change in climate from the short summers we in Iceland see''...He went on to explain that Icelandair has expressed a interest in serving the cities of Vancouver, Edmonton, Los Angeles and Las Vegas as part of the airlines revised expansion plans.''These cities cater very well to Icelandair'' in terms of the numbers of available activities he went on to explain, and the amount of tourism that could be exchanged between the countries.He also went to explain Reykjaviks increasing role as a connection point between N.America and Europe.==
==Currently Icelandair serves Halifax and Toronto in Canada aswell as New York, Minneapolis/St.Paul, Orlando, Boston and Seattle in the United States,aswell as a large inter Iceland and European route network.==
==Flights to the new cities would likely be operated by Boeing 757-200 aircraft of which Icelandair operates 14 of the aircraft not including 1 stretched Boeing 757-300.Icelandair is yet to announce the new routes.[ICTVE]==
af773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2578 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10636 times:
According to the great circle mapper KEF-LAX is 4313 miles and KEF-LAS is 4093 miles and the range of the 757-200WL in about 4100 nm. I'm not sure how that would work unless they wait for their 787s to be delivered.
tonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1874 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10569 times:
Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 1): According to the great circle mapper KEF-LAX is 4313 miles and KEF-LAS is 4093 miles and the range of the 757-200WL in about 4100 nm. I'm not sure how that would work unless they wait for their 787s to be delivered.
According to the same site, SNN-ORD is 3120nm and SNN-ATL is 3337nm. Both these routes were operated by 757's at one time and were among the 3 longest 757 routes in the world. SNN-ORD was operated by a 757-200 without winglets and by all accounts, there were many times they had to switch passengers onto the EI A330 SNN-ORD service on days where strong headwinds were present. SNN-ATL was operated by a 757 with winglets and as far as I'm aware, they had no problems with range due to the improved performance offered by the winglets. However, it is a big jump from 3337nm to 4313nm so it is hard to imagine how this route being operated by a 757. It would definitely involve a fuel stop.
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styles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 524 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10271 times:
This person Moller is an official in the Icelandic government? If so, I doubt he is speaking on behalf of Icelandair management or its shareholders as Icelandair is private company. Perhaps he is speaking about what the Icelandic government would like to see but I don't know how much you can read into this. Furthermore, Iceland's government has a more important issue to worry about and that is its financial issues with the UK, the Netherlands and the IMF.
Lawair From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10136 times:
Wasn't FI forced to lease a 763 to operate KEF-SFO? I don't think they ever could actually operate a 757 on that route. KEF-LAX/LAS should fall into the same boat.
eaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 956 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8148 times:
Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 1): According to the great circle mapper KEF-LAX is 4313 miles and KEF-LAS is 4093 miles and the range of the 757-200WL in about 4100 nm. I'm not sure how that would work unless they wait for their 787s to be delivered.
I don´t think they are planing to use a 757 to LA or Las Vegas
Bongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3018 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8092 times:
Quoting Reply 3): Furthermore, Iceland's government has a more important issue to worry about and that is its financial issues with the UK, the Netherlands and the IMF.
They aren't exactly flavour of the month over here, having voted to welch on their debts.
TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2031 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8072 times:
Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 2): However, it is a big jump from 3337nm to 4313nm so it is hard to imagine how this route being operated by a 757.
But KEF-LAX is not4,313nm, it's 4,313 statute miles or 3,748nm. KEF-LAS is 3,557nm.
EWR-TXL, which CO operates with B752 metal, is 3,458nm, and thus longer than both SNN-ORD, SNN-ATL, yet shorter than FI's plans. Any longer B752 routes out there?
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KingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1579 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7631 times:
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5530 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7222 times:
Quoting Lawair (Reply 4): Wasn't FI forced to lease a 763 to operate KEF-SFO? I don't think they ever could actually operate a 757 on that route. KEF-LAX/LAS should fall into the same boat.
I always wondered why FI used the 763 on the KEF-SFO flights in the first place. Never would I have thought the San Francisco Bay Area would sustain such a service. LAX has a much larger population base to draw from.
In any case, it would be interesting to see what actually comes out of this expansion. Where are they getting the equipment? When does Icelandair get their Dreamliners?
I believe FI is expanding their service to SEA with one or two more weekly flights during the summer.
Maybe they could tag LAS or LAX onto the YHZ or YYZ flights? Stop in one these cities, and then paxs could also be cleared by US CBP in them. Have a flight and cabin crew based at these airports and they fly these sectors. Don't know if they would need two aircraft to operate like this, but I think it could be a good idea. Would be interesting also if they could get traffic rights on these routes as well.
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netjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4662 times:
I would love to see Icelandair at LAX or LAS.... bring it on
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4467 times:
Quoting flyb (Thread starter): He went on to explain that Icelandair has expressed a interest in serving the cities of Vancouver
Oh how my fingers are crossed for that one ... would be even better if they started serving DUS then I'd be a very happy camper. I flew YVR-YYC-KEF-DUS and back with Canada3000 in the 90s and loved the KEF stop over.
icelandair75w From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 144 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4382 times:
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 16): Oh how my fingers are crossed for that one ... would be even better if they started serving DUS then I'd be a very happy camper. I flew YVR-YYC-KEF-DUS and back with Canada3000 in the 90s and loved the KEF stop over.
YVR more likely than not won't happen, but we do fly to DUS.
alfa75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 612 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4322 times:
Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 15): Is there even a sliver of demand for Las Vegas to Iceland?
I really think this is to make it easier for people to visit Iceland. Remember, the gentleman quoted is the Minister of TOURISM and Transportation. They need visitors to help rebuild their economy.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3650 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4288 times:
Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 5): What would be the odds of them starting up a KEF-YYC? That would be awesome to see them here.
Makes more sense than YEG when you factor in "festivals" and "shopping" for Icelandics.
I mean, there's the Phillips-Conoco Stage; Theater Calgary; Calgary Philharmonic; the Alberta Ballet and ballet school; the Calgary Stampede, and the NHL and CFL teams.
On the other hand, in Edmonton, you can -- you can -- you can -- I can't think of anything either
Byrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2147 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4239 times:
I'm surprised that ORD or MIA are being overlooked. What kind of traffic are they focused on?
Why haven't they pursued any codeshares? I could see a FI/AA codeshare for Caribbean bound pax.
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flyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 630 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3893 times:
Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 20): What would be the odds of them starting up a KEF-YYC? That would be awesome to see them here.
Makes more sense than YEG when you factor in "festivals" and "shopping" for Icelandics.
I mean, there's the Phillips-Conoco Stage; Theater Calgary; Calgary Philharmonic; the Alberta Ballet and ballet school; the Calgary Stampede, and the NHL and CFL teams.
On the other hand, in Edmonton, you can -- you can -- you can -- I can't think of anything either
Obviously your not serious. I live in Calgary and work with a major Natural Gas Company. Our company and me personally go up to Edmonton for the Edmonton Symphony, the Citadel, the Winspear Centre, of course NHL, Edmonton Rush, CFL and many other things. During the summer, a group of friends always attends Edmonton's Hertigage days and Taste of Edmonton.
Sure we have a lot in Calgary, but Edmonton has things that we don't have...including not the best airservice. Think it is okay for them to grab this flight over us. On that note, I got to get to get packing for my flight to HKG.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3650 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3806 times:
Quoting flyb (Reply 22): Obviously your not serious. I live in Calgary and work with a major Natural Gas Company. Our company and me personally go up to Edmonton for the Edmonton Symphony, the Citadel, the Winspear Centre, of course NHL, Edmonton Rush, CFL and many other things. During the summer, a group of friends always attends Edmonton's Hertigage days and Taste of Edmonton.
"Taste of Edmonton??" C'mon, now *you* can't be serious. Edmonton has a cuisine?
Has Edmonton had a "Top Chef" or an "Iron Chef" challenger like Calgary has?
Btw, when was the Edmonton Symphony's last recording?
Okay seriously, you are correct that air services are not equal between Calgary and Edmonton. But it's hard for two cities of similar size and with similar business bases that are *so close together* to have identical services. Analogies are New York and Philadelphia ; Baltimore and Washington DC ; and Oakland vs. San Francisco .
Icelandair service will not exactly even the playing field in either city. But I can see how it would give all Albertans more choices.
Sebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1658 posts, RR: 15 Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3776 times:
Doesn't look like Icelandair is flying anywhere today - Volcano.
And if the eruption lasts any length of time...
25 threepoint: The road distance between Edmonton and Calgary - while not overwhelming - is significantly greater than those of the other city-pairs you listed. I t
26 normie999: It strikes me from the whole tenor of what Mr Moller had to say it was purely for the benefit of a domestic audience, and, frankly, arse-over-tit. I'm
28 shamrock604: I doubt the British are exactly flavour of the month in Iceland either, what with having used anti -terrorist legislation to freeze the assets of Ice
29 GSPSPOT: Obviously your not serious. I live in Calgary and work with a major Natural Gas Company. Our company and me personally go up to Edmonton for the Edmo
30 Andaman: Probably more demand other way around, I can see Nordics flying FI to Las Vegas, through hassle-free KEF.[Edited 2010-03-22 20:26:31]
31 Viscount724: Reports indicate that flights are returning to normal. Icelandair's SEA-KEF flight on Saturday diverted to BOS when north of Hudson Bay when airports
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