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UA Vs DL New Colors  
User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8903 times:

Here at HNL, I've noticed that more DL airliners are in new colors than UA.

During a few days of spotting at HNL (3/15 - 3/17), I noticed only 1 744, and 1 772 in new colors out of all the flights during the day, which in total must have been a combined 20 flights. Both new colors were on HNL-Japan runs.

Is UA delaying the re-painting of their fleet?


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8840 times:

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Thread starter):
Is UA delaying the re-painting of their fleet?

No not at all...your noticing allot more DL aircraft as they acquired another airline. If UA had acquired US or CO you would have seen a mad rush to repaint that carries planes into UAs livery. UA isn't repainting aircraft simply to get the new colors on them they are only repainting the planes when they need a paintjob. Also you won't see allot of new colored aircraft at HNL because none of the domestic 767/777s are in new colors.



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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8744 times:

When DL took over WA in '87, there were a lot of ex-WA birds in hybrid colors ...

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I suppose that the DL / NW merger took a while for it to take full effect, that it gave DL time to re-paint the NW birds.



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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 645 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8639 times:

UA's only repaints when the aircraft goes in for maintenance checks, and they have such a high fleet utilization that it wouldn't be feasible to pull planes just to paint them.

In contrast, Delta has a larger amount of planes to go around, so they are able to pull planes for repainting...and they want all planes being DELTA planes now that NW is gone for good.


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8073 times:

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Thread starter):
Is UA delaying the re-painting of their fleet?

It's been a slow progression, no doubt, but that's the route UA took. They don't need to be in a hurry. Like it has been stated, DL wanted to repaint the ex-NW planes as quickly as possible. The 753, 744, and A333, all from NW, are the most common sisters to HNL. So there's a lot of widgets there on a daily basis. On the other hand, five common visitors to HNL from UA, 77As N210UA-N215UA, are not in the new colors, so it's just less common to see a new UA livery.

DL and NW on their own weren't real fast in repaints either. It would have taken NW at least 8 years to fully eliminate the bowling shoe, and that was just the mainline planes. And DL has never been known to be real speedy in repainting. It wasn't long ago that Ron Allen and original widget schemes could be seen. We're talking about a decade of being in the old colors.


User currently offline764 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

The one thing that I am wondering about is this: Judging from the past, UA seems to change their livery wuite frequently, around every ten years or so. The "new" livery is already over six years old, yet many planes still have the "old" one. How likely are they to create yet another design before they have even painted all birds in the current one? (I know Delta has done that in the past as well). To be quite honest, I still don't like the current UA scheme and wouldn't miss it much....

User currently offlineSLCGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6798 times:

Given Delta's history the last decade of doing slow repaints "Widget, Ron Allen 97, Wavy Gravy and Song" in the fleet all at the same time during the early to mid 2000's. To be down to just "New Colors, Wavy Gravy and a few NW colors" in such a short time after the merger indicates some serious repainting the past two years!

[Edited 2010-03-21 05:34:22]

User currently offline0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5915 times:

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 2):
I suppose that the DL / NW merger took a while for it to take full effect, that it gave DL time to re-paint the NW birds.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the DL/NW merger was one of the quickest mergers...ever...



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User currently offlineHNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Thread starter):
Is UA delaying the re-painting of their fleet?

As many others on here have said, UA has taken the course that calls for repainting when the aircraft is scheduled for heavy maintenance. A not uncommon strategy for most airlines, so I doubt that they are delaying the repaint. However, you might make a case for a delay, if in fact management believed a merger with CO was really possible. I suspect that if there were such a merger, we just might see a totally new livery evolving around the so called "tulip U", but a livery that both carriers could take pride and make a connection with.



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User currently offlineGALLEYSTEW From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

I think Delta has changed their livery many more times than UAL!!! They went from the SUNSET, ORANGE, RED, AND BLUE.....to the BATTLESHIP GRAY/BLUE......to the current EURO WHITE AND BLUE............ all in 25 years. I think DELTA changed liveries more often.


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User currently offlineDL Widget head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2100 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Quoting GALLEYSTEW (Reply 9):
I think Delta has changed their livery many more times than UAL!!!

UA changed theirs 2 times and DL changed theirs 3 times in the last 25 years. If you make it the last 45 years then it's a tie at 3 times.


User currently offlineisitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

I always thought that though the years, Delta didn't change their paint scheme but modified it again and again.
UA changes theirs EXCEPT for the stars added in the late 60's to the Mainliner scheme. That was a modification.
Each to his own terminalogy, I guess.
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