Also, I saw the A-net thread several weeks ago that said that the two Air France B77L Freighters were being diverted to FedEx. But I hadn't seen any other mention (articles, links, whatever) re: these two AF to FX B77L freighters until the (3/18/2010) Memphis Commercial Appear article "FedEx third quarter delivers good news" Paragraph quoted following: "The company listed three 777s in its fleet Feb. 28 and reportedly had a deal to get two more from Air France."
Link follows: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...er-profits-exceed-analysts-expect/
WestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2124 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6537 times:
Quoting stratosphere (Reply 12): FX acquired one AF 777 from the desert and one that was never delivered to AF at Boeing.
The one that was in the desert N449BA (formerly F-GUOD) was never delivered to AF. It is still owned by Boeing.
Also, as was reported by JohnJ above, an AF 777F flew into MEM from CDG recently.
My guess is that the aircraft that flew from CDG to MEM was F-GUOA which, as was observed in December, was delivered to AF in all-white livery instead of AF livery. AF were using the aircraft in service in all-white livery. I strongly suspect that F-GUOA is the one going to FedEx instead of the as-yet-to-be-built F-GUOE. It would be good to get a confirmation (or refutation) of this by anyone that knows - and is not guessing like I am.
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What is FX's current order status? Last I heard 30 777F's on firm order and 15 options, but then they made noise about having a 'walk away' provision if the Teamsters organized their workers. So my question is, has their order/delivery status changed or is that still pending the union organization?
Good to see FX keeping the 777 line going.
I'm surprised at the quantity as it was just over a year ago that FX delayed some 777F deliveries (while doubling their order to 30 freighters).
While normally I am for 'engine choice,' in this case an exclusive engine ensured an easy transfer from AF to FX. Not to mention Boeing has forced a high level of commonality across the 777F fleet. (Not quite 'any color you want as long as it is white, but enough is standard in the freighter that there is little chance something that is tough to implement is lacking from any delivered 777F.)
fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7074 posts, RR: 89 Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 23): No. The latest order (15 + 15) has yet to be confirmed.
The latest order was confirmed back in January. We hold 30 firm and an additional 15 options. Boeing has yet to post on their website because of the language of the contract (negotiated in the event Congress included a labor fix in the FAA Reauthorization Bill).
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2687 posts, RR: 59 Reply 25, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3471 times:
Quoting fxramper (Reply 24): The latest order was confirmed back in January. We hold 30 firm and an additional 15 options. Boeing has yet to post on their website because of the language of the contract (negotiated in the event Congress included a labor fix in the FAA Reauthorization Bill).
I get that. And I look forward to it being confirmed. However, until such time as Congress gets its act together, this order cannot be considered 'firm.' In order to do so, all conditions must be met by all involved. That has not happened. The same can be said of AA's 787 order. The airline considers it firm, however, it is still subject to labor negotiations. Only until that is formally resolved can the order be considered a 'firm' order.