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User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 15895 times:

Found some more interesting aircraft swaps...what else can you find?

Also, any way to tell a DL 757 from a NW 757 in the schedule?

checking 5/27

4X ATL-LAS 753
1X ATL-MCO 753
1X ATL-ORD D95
several ATL-ORD Compass E75
4X DTW-LAX 738!
3X DTW-SFO 738
1X DTW-SAN 738
1X DTW-LGA 738
1X DTW-SLC 738

Plenty of Airbii in SLC, but none in ATL yet...along those lines, M90s in MSP, but no M88's yet.

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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 15788 times:

Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter):
Plenty of Airbii in SLC, but none in ATL yet

As far as I know, there are no plans to base any Airbus narrowbodies at ATL; they will mostly be used at MSP, DTW, and SLC.



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9425 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 15693 times:

Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter):
Also, any way to tell a DL 757 from a NW 757 in the schedule?

only thing i can tell you is to look it up on Dela.com, 26 seats in F is a 75X(DAL-S) 24F is DAL-S and 22/20 F is DAL-N
(note DL does have 4 757s with 22F but they mostly do LAX-SLC/KOA/LIH/OGG and ATL-SLC.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
As far as I know, there are no plans to base any Airbus narrowbodies at ATL; they will mostly be used at MSP, DTW, and SLC.

and NYC.
Think about what US does with airbus in NYC, that is what Delta shall do.



yep.
User currently offlinePHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 15499 times:

Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter):
M90s in MSP, but no M88's yet.

I see an MD-88 on MSP-EWR starting after June 10. (also see a 738 on MSP-EWR at the same time)


User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 15440 times:

Any NW 757s in ATL? Doesn't seem to be intermingling yet.

User currently offlinePHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 15381 times:

Quoting FlyAA757 (Reply 4):
Any NW 757s in ATL? Doesn't seem to be intermingling yet.

753's, yes. No on the 752s. There are some 752s going to SLC though (to BWI, SEA and some other places)

It looks like from delta.com that DTW-SFO and DTW-LAX (could be more but these are the only ones that I have checked) will be all 73H and 75Xs. This will be quite a nice upgrade for DTW passengers with AVOD at every seat. Smart strategy as these are pretty long flights.


User currently offlineNWA757300 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 15248 times:

Anyone know when the PMNW 757-5500s go in for their remodel?

User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 15025 times:

Quoting NWA757300 (Reply 6):
Anyone know when the PMNW 757-5500s go in for their remodel?

I have heard the first one should go in for a repaint in April, however, I don't know if the interior mods will be done at the same time.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3772 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14685 times:

I'm on the ATL-MCO 753 in May.

Also, there's a Compass E-175 running ATL-CMH starting sometime in May.

Anybody figured out or found a new flight numbering scheme for the combined airline yet?



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User currently offlineNWADTWFA From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 162 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14499 times:

Quoting FlyAA757 (Reply 4):
Any NW 757s in ATL?

Next month the 75N (5500 series) will be operating out of ATL on some Florida routes...RSW, MCO, TPA, JAX.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14472 times:

Quoting NWADTWFA (Reply 9):
Next month the 75N (5500 series) will be operating out of ATL on some Florida routes...RSW, MCO, TPA, JAX.

That is the going-forward plan for the 75N's (5500) to use them on 757 routes that need the capacity on primarily leisure and/or shorter routes where IFE is even less important (e.g., on the ATL-Florida routes, DTW-Florida, LAS) instead of on routes like DTW-LAX.


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 13568 times:

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 8):
Anybody figured out or found a new flight numbering scheme for the combined airline yet?

This is a rough estimation, but from what I gather from looking at schedules from about May onward, 1-2999 is DL mainline, 3000-3599 is XJ, 3600-4399 is 9E, 4400-4899 is OO, 4900-5599 is EV, 5600-5899 is CP, 5900-5999 is S5, 6000-6099 is RP, 6100-6225 is F8, 6226-6800 is OH, and OO E120 flights are in the upper 7000s. The DC-9s are no longer 7000 series, and 9E and XJ flights from PMDL hubs have been blended into their respective PMNW number ranges. No more three digit flight numbers for any Connection carriers.

[Edited 2010-03-21 21:30:06]


Hey Swifty
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8598 times:

Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 3):
I see an MD-88 on MSP-EWR starting after June 10. (also see a 738 on MSP-EWR at the same time)


That's interesting, yet refreshing.

EWR-ATL also some changes as of JUN 1 but becomes 10x M88, 1x 738 as of JUN 15 (dummy scheds?)
1x 737-800 (PTVs)
1x 737-700 (PTVs)
5x 737-800 (Passenger)
4x M88
(Currently 2x 738, 1x CR9, 8x M88.)

EWR-MSP: As of JUN 10
2x E175 (COMPASS)
1x M88
1x 738
1x 319

[Edited 2010-03-22 12:02:40]


"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7808 times:

Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter):
checking 5/27

4X ATL-LAS 753
1X ATL-MCO 753
1X ATL-ORD D95
several ATL-ORD Compass E75
4X DTW-LAX 738!
3X DTW-SFO 738
1X DTW-SAN 738
1X DTW-LGA 738
1X DTW-SLC 738

I will edit this to show the summer schedule (6/28)


3X ATL-LAS 753
0X ATL-MCO 753
0X ATL-ORD D95
0X ATL-ORD Compass E75
4X DTW-LAX 738!
3X DTW-SFO 738
0X DTW-SAN 738
0X DTW-LGA 738
2X DTW-SLC 738

Here is some others I found for summer, I will try and make a complete list.

DTW-SEA 1x 73H
DTW-BOS 1x MD88
DTW-DEN 2x 738
DTW-BWI 1x 738
MSP-IND 1x MD90
MSP-GEG 3x MD-90
MSP-DEN 1x MD-90
MSP-SLC 1x MD-90
MSP-LAX 1x 763
MSP-SJC 2x MD-90
MSP-SMF 3x MD-90
MSP-SFO 1x MD-90
MSP-ATL 1x 753
MSP-BZN 2x MD-90
MSP-EWR 1x 738
MSP-ORD 1x MD-90
SLC-CVG 1x A320
SLC-SAN 1x A319
SLC-SNA 3x A319
SLC-SFO 1x A320
SLC-OAK 1x A319
SLC-JAC 1x A319
SLC-DFW 1x A320
LAX-RDU 1x A320
LAX-MCO 2x A320
LAX-TPA 1x A320
MEM-DCA 1x MD-88
MEM-BOS 1x MD-88
ATL-GRR 3x D95
ATL-MDW 6x A319
ATL-MKE 1x D95
LGA-TPA 3x A319
LGA-MSY 3x A319
LGA-JAX 1x A319
LGA-PBI 3x A319
LGA-CVG 1x A319



Other points
MEM-PHX returns to mainline 2x A319



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7682 times:

SLC-BNA/MSY will be A320 instead of A319.

User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7484 times:

Also noticed LAX-IND is 738 1 direction, 320 the other!

Any way to see specifically which FLA-ATL routes will get the NW 757s?


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7438 times:

From 10JUN onwards, ATL-MDW shows 6x daily, with all flights operated by A319, on DL's website.

I guess that some Airbus craft are heading to ATL or it's a scheduling issue that isn't solved (I'm not sure if the June schedules are confirmed yet). The schedule would indicate these A319s would be based at ATL (but I can't be sure).


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7390 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 16):
The schedule would indicate these A319s would be based at ATL (but I can't be sure).

Not for those few flights, they are easy to rotate in and out.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7308 times:

Perhaps... But the online schedule doesn't show A319 flights to any of the other hubs, either from ATL or MDW. Which is why I said the 'buses seem to be based in ATL. Of course, they could be rotated through another station.

I'm more asking if they are based in ATL, rather than stating it. Oh well, I'm sure that we'll find out soon enough if any part of the Airbus NB fleet are moving in June.


User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7167 times:

Seems to be a reshuffling of the Shuttle America fleet, which currently operates ATL-MDW in order to feed the LGA-MDW shuttle which is going away...

User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9425 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6936 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 13):
I will edit this to show the summer schedule (6/28)

That is to far out. DL has loaded much past June 10th. Most of that wont stick.



yep.
User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6877 times:

A320s showing up SLC-JFK.


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6803 times:

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 20):
That is to far out. DL has loaded much past June 10th. Most of that wont stick.

It has changed quite a bit, but they are starting to finalize the flights by moving a lot of the lower flight numbers around on NW legacy routes, instead of them all being 25XX and above.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9425 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6786 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 22):
It has changed quite a bit, but they are starting to finalize the flights by moving a lot of the lower flight numbers around on NW legacy routes, instead of them all being 25XX and above.

I understand that but like i said, its not final past the 9th.



yep.
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6287 times:

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 23):
I understand that but like i said, its not final past the 9th.

Does this mean flight after JUN 10 on Delta.com are more or less dummy skeds that are subject to change?



"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
25 PHXtoDCAtoMSP : Yes, but they should be updated any day now
26 compensateme : update on domestic aircraft swaps for this summer (collected elsewhere & reposted here with permission) -- DTW-LAX will see two-daily B767-300. --
27 burnsie28 : I found more flights, these are just aircraft swaps not full schedules. ATL-FNT 3x D95 ATL-DAY 1x D95 ATL-CHS 1x 319, 1x 320 ATL-CLT 1x D95, 1x 319 AT
28 Coronado : I guess after above is implemented there will be no need for any futher a.net discussions on PMDAL/PMNWA aircraft swaps--:D it appears that Delta is n
29 FL787 : It's not really an airplane swap but I was just at MSP where I saw a 752 in DL colors without winglets with the 5500 series type doors. Have they alre
30 DLMD90 : Starting in June, I see BOS-MSP 1x MD88 and 1x738, but when you click on the seat map, it brings up the A320? Is this glitch, or is it meant to be A32
31 deltal1011man : I show 1x 319, 3x 320, 1xM90 Yes, It is all subject to change till around a month out(aka late May/early June could still change) but the closer you
32 timf : None of the 5500s have gone in for paint yet, and all of the PMDL 757s with that configuration have winglets. The only explanation would be it was a
33 DLMD90 : Starting June 10th BOS-MSP is showing 1x738 1xMD88 1xMD90 1xA319 1xA320, However, since last night, the seat maps have corrected, and are now showing
34 FlyDreamliner : Thank you for your awesome summary... tremendously interesting stuff. I am glad to see the benefits of the merger paying off all around - with the ex
35 deltal1011man : Blah I looked at June 6th lol.....wait till tomorrow and see whne the load it. Ok pilots bases are: ATL: M88,73N,767,7ER,765,777 NYC:M88,73N,7ER,765,
36 burnsie28 : You forgot A320 in SLC starting soon.
37 Post contains images Airport : Where are you seeing this? I can't find but two days which there is an airbus on the SLC-BOI route, April 8th and 9th, which there is only one airbus
38 nwa757boy : The PMNW bases are DTW MSP, MEM CHI, NYC BOS S-ATL-closing May 1st SEA SFO LAX HNL the PMDL satellite bases in MSP and DTW are closing May 1st as wel
39 Post contains images cokepopper : [quote=deltal1011man,reply=35] Ok pilots bases are: ATL: M88,73N,767,7ER,765,777 NYC:M88,73N,7ER,765,777 Is 765 the 764? also the terminology of N/S d
40 nwa757boy : you and me both! I'm sick of the dog and pony show if you get my drift.....
41 71Zulu : Nothing major but one of the ATL-MSY on Saturdays in April will be a DC-9-50. Got most of them but can you decode the rest? 765? 755? 767 means domest
42 NWA757300 : Isn't the 777 NYC base closing and moving to DTW?
43 globalflyer : Is there anywhere to find out the codes of all the integrated aircraft codes like 75X, 75N, 76L, etc?
44 DeltaRules : One thing that makes me think it's not final yet...they, at least on the website's schedules, still don't have a 737-800 coming into CMH to make up t
45 cokepopper : I believe everything is up in the air regarding a/c swaps. At least until the ruling concerning the dueling lawsuits between AFA/Delta. The AFA has a
46 DualQual : Yes
47 burnsie28 : Im looking at the summer schedule. Not all flights have been processed by the system the third MSP-COS flight has yet to be loaded as well. More non-
48 michman : The CVG 76ER base is also supposed to close sometime this year.
49 DocLightning : Wow, is DTW going to become a 737 base? Weird! I wonder why these changes?
50 nwa757boy : the 738 fits nicely between the A320 and B757 as far as seats go. Plus, only 16 F seats compared to 22F seats on the 757.
51 DLMD90 : PVD-MSP is going from 1xcr900 to 1xA319 (finally) PVD-DTW is getting an MD88 ( interesting) PVD-ATL is keeping it's MD88, but going from 1xMD88 3X CR9
52 burnsie28 : Agreed, a few years ago NW was running 2x 319/320's on the route.
53 Post contains images DLMD90 : You're right, I remember that. I wish it was going to be a MD8/9, but I'll be happy with the Airbus.
54 Post contains links cokepopper : Seems the BS lays with the AFA. http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/03/16/25581.htm This could very well affect the a/c allocations for awhile. Also t
55 deltal1011man : yes i did. Yes it does. Look at HQs. MSP (aka NWA) is DAL-N ATL(aka PDAL) is DAL-S. I have seen this used inside of Delta, I didn't make it up but IF
56 burnsie28 : I believe what its saying is it violates their current contract, not what they want it to be.
57 nwaesc : There's nothing "perceived" about it. It still very much exists in their CBA. In what form it continues to do so will be decided in court, I guess...
58 cokepopper : Only reason is most likely politics. The reason as to why I used the word perceived is that a very good argument can be made that there isn't anymore
59 ah414211 : It's in the schedule starting June 10th....SLC-BOI will be 2x A320s/day, 5 CR9s/day and 1 CR7/day, and MSP-BOI will be 2x CR9s/day and 1x A319/day
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