flyingclrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 621 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7430 times:
Why would any airline want to buy such a small 4-engined aircraft?
sasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 633 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7251 times:
Are there any published performance specs on this A/C, does it have any STOL qualities?
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7213 times:
If it was able to fit a niche market and seat enough people, it could work on certain routes (not sure exactly which ones, I am not a route planner). But, four-engined jets do have some high maintenance costs that are tough to offset with that small of a plane, as mentioned earlier.
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7194 times:
Quoting flyingclrs727 (Reply 1): Why would any airline want to buy such a small 4-engined aircraft?
sasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 633 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7146 times:
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6990 times:
The BAe146 and Avros have been surpassed by more efficient twins now. There is probably a niche for this type of aircraft...I just don't know what it is.
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6827 times:
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 8): The BAe146 and Avros have been surpassed by more efficient twins now. There is probably a niche for this type of aircraft...I just don't know what it is.
That's more than likely true, but the 146's were fun to fly when they were around in the US.
sasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 633 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6584 times:
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 8): The BAe146 and Avros have been surpassed by more efficient twins now. There is probably a niche for this type of aircraft...I just don't know what it is.
Probably for a:nutters like myself!!! I'm sure they are inefficient to operate, but I just like them! I flew a Blue1 Avro a couple of years ago just to fly one; it was a flight quite out of my way but I was happy to do it!!
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 6242 times:
Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 9):
That's more than likely true, but the 146's were fun to fly when they were around in the US.
It is true, and unfortunately few people care what type of plane they are on, so "fun" doesn't matter as much as economics. This thing might look neat as a commercial a/c...but it will never be one. I'll put $$$ on that!
AirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 1906 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 6102 times:
According to Wikipedia, there is a proposed commercial derivative, albeit probably twin engined. I suspect from the absence of recent activity, that this will remain a paper project. Impressive to build a purpose built 4 engined MPA, when the US are using modifed 737s though.
rbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 575 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 5127 times:
Seems like they could stretch the thing. If it has STOL ability, on short runs maybe it could work. Get the thing approved for LCY and you may have a market. The Bae-146s have to be replaced sometime.
UAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2225 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 2093 times:
Kinda looks like a Bae-146!
I love the Bae-146 it is one sexy aircraft! The plane was okay to fly in but much better to look at! They could sell the thing to United to do DEN - Rockies flying.
Speaking of the Bae-146, are there a lot of (any) VIP configured aircraft? I would love to see what they could do inside of that.
Quote: "Plans are also under way to develop the YP-X, a 120-150 seat passenger aircraft derived from the XP-1. This aircraft could compete with future Boeing's and Airbus narrowbodies, as well as Bombardier's CSeries.
It would complete a Japanese-made series of passenger jets, complementing Mitsubishi Aircraft's 70-90 seat Mitsubishi Regional Jet and a 100-120 seater that Mitsubishi might collaborate on with Boeing. However, plans are still at an early stage.
'We are now only studying the possibility for the YP-X,' says Motoyama. 'The business environment is changing day by day and we don't know what will be needed in the future. This is a longer-term project for the company'."
Quoting rbgso (Reply 16): Seems like they could stretch the thing. If it has STOL ability, on short runs maybe it could work. Get the thing approved for LCY and you may have a market. The Bae-146s have to be replaced sometime.
The type may be a bit big for LCY.
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 23): Speaking of the Bae-146, are there a lot of (any) VIP configured aircraft? I would love to see what they could do inside of that.