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Aviastar's Tu-204 Crash Lands At DME  
User currently offlineaddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 27511 times:

Thank God it was only a ferry flight... Looks like the first hull-loss for Tu-204/214, actually (how many of those are flying - 20-25, smth like that?). Russian media report the time of the incident as 02.35 Moscow time (23.35 GMT).

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100322/158272190.html


06:56 22/03/2010

Two people were seriously injured and five more sought medical assistance after a Tu-204 plane crash-landed near a Moscow airport on Monday, a source in the regional emergencies service said.

Eight crew members were onboard the aircraft en route from the Egyptian resort of Hurghada, when it apparently made a belly landing.

The plane was performing a landing in the Domodedovo Airport in poor weather conditions with limited visibility when it went off radars approximately one km (0.6 miles) from the runway. The search and rescue team found the damaged aircraft in woodland near the airport and evacuated the crew.

A committee was set up to investigate the cause of the accident.

[Edited 2010-03-21 21:40:16]

[Edited 2010-03-21 21:42:58]

33 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 26952 times:

Apparently it is the same aircraft (RA-64011) that report hydraulic problems after takeoff from DME earlier that day. Returned to DME and as far as I understand eventually flew to HRG.
After return from HRG, this accident happened on approach to DME.

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=428f912f&opt=0

I wonder if there is any relation...



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offline797charter From Denmark, joined Jun 2005, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 26748 times:

Also news from Flightglobal:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...crashes-on-approach-to-moscow.html


I do hope the crew are "OK"



Regards

Steen



Keep it clear of the propellers
User currently offlinesibille From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 26063 times:

Aviastar had 5 Tu-204.
3 are cargo and two are passengers aircrafts.
Following the crash, there is only one passenger Tu-204 remaining and Russian authoriries decided Aviastar is not allowed to fly passengers fight anymore.
Cargo operations are still allowed.

Source : aviaport.ru


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 26022 times:

They're lucky to come out alive if it crashed in woodland. Reminds me of the AF A320 incident, maybe the speed was also low which reduced the damage on impact.


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 25599 times:

It's the second accident of this very same aircraft (RA-64011) after the OMS accident in 2002.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20020114-2



Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.
User currently offlineaddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 25194 times:

Video of the crash scene. Can't believe how lucky these guys (the crew) are - it looks like they crashed in the middle of the woods but there was no fire whatsoever:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8580179.stm


User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 24783 times:

Interesting to get weather data.
Today's night was really terrible, with vicious wind and gusts.
The plane was empty: it might be additional factor.
Let's see what black boxes tell.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 24408 times:



Quoting addd (Reply 6):
Video of the crash scene.
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 5):
It's the second accident of this very same aircraft (RA-64011) after the OMS accident in 2002.

Lets just say that they won't be repairing it for a second time... My God they were lucky - it's also very fortunate that there were no passengers onboard, that cabin split looks nasty.

[Edited 2010-03-22 07:35:19]


...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 24356 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 8):
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 5):
Video of the crash scene.

that's wasn't me you are quoting  



Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.
User currently offlineaddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 24285 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 7):
Interesting to get weather data.

UUDD 220000Z 17003MPS 0250 R32R/0700N FG VV001 02/02 Q1002 82290045 NOSIG
UUDD 220030Z 17003MPS 0300 R32R/0700N FG VV001 02/02 Q1001 82290045 NOSIG


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 24282 times:

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 9):
that's wasn't me you are quoting

Sorted, sorry about that  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineaztec01 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 147 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 23438 times:

No fire? No fuel, perhaps?

User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 23213 times:

Some more information:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...senger-transport-after-tu-204.html


User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 22690 times:

Wiki says 71 TU-204 built and 100 ordered.
I was sure it was less than 71.
Not that bad.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10735 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 22554 times:

That was one lucky crew to escape this wreck without leaving someone behind. Luckily no pax were on board, too.
Why did it return empty from the holiday destination Hurghada? A ferry flight because of tech problems seems likely.


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2490 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 22241 times:

Quoting aztec01 (Reply 12):
No fire? No fuel, perhaps?

Which would explain why it landed short of DME  

[quote=NA,reply=15]Why did it return empty from the holiday destination
Hurghada? A ferry flight because of tech problems seems likely.

Seems that way anyways..Glad to see there was no fatalities.

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineaddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 21556 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 15):
Why did it return empty from the holiday destination Hurghada? A ferry flight because of tech problems seems likely.

Not entirely clear yet, but it is the beginning of both "high" spring season on Egypt's Red Sea coast AND school spring break in Russia, and it is not inconceivable that there was simply not enough demand for the return flight, so they dropped off the planeload of tourists in Hurghada and headed back to Moscow.


By the way, here is another video of the crash site:
http://www.infox.ru/accident/inciden...0/03/22/Tu_204_avariyno_syel.phtml

[Edited 2010-03-22 09:34:57]

[Edited 2010-03-22 09:39:17]

User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 21097 times:

Quoting addd (Reply 17):
Not entirely clear yet, but it is the beginning of both "high" spring season on Egypt's Red Sea coast AND school spring break in Russia, and it is not inconceivable that there was simply not enough demand for the return flight, so they dropped off the planeload of tourists in Hurghada and headed back to Moscow.

Rumours are that passengers were all rebooked on other flights because the Moscow-Hurghada leg was delayed due to the earlier hydraulic problems on the DME-HRG flight.



Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.
User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 12 hours ago) and read 16585 times:

Quoting aztec01 (Reply 12):

Sounds like there was a few things wrong with it.



No matter how random things may appear, there's always a plan.
User currently offlineaddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 15975 times:

As more images of the crash site surface - http://aviator-ru.livejournal.com/66896.html - it increasingly looks like a miracle that anyone could walk away from this alive...

User currently offlinejensobreuer From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 15414 times:

Just to compare - this is the machine in better times last June:


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Photo © Jens Breuer



We should really be glad that there are no fatalities - a quite seldom fact nowadays (in crashes with passenger aircrafts)


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 15377 times:

Quoting jensobreuer (Reply 21):
We should really be glad that there are no fatalities

At the moment there are no fatalities, but what is your source about the current state of the pilot & F/O. They're still laying at the intensive care department of the hospital with serious head injuries.



Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.
User currently offlinejensobreuer From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 14600 times:

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 22):
At the moment there are no fatalities

You're right - but I simply hope that this won't change ...


User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9758 times:

First leaks from authorities say that AP was not fully functional. That's why they went to DME empty.
They tried to land at DME in thick fog - while hand-flying.
Apparently there was not enough fuel to divert.
It's unofficial version, of course.


25 A380Heavy : The penultimate picture seem to show the Ram Air Turbine deployed - what does this indicate? Does it suggest there was an electrical failure that req
26 Post contains links RubberJungle : ...and a little more: Engines 'operational' on crashed Tu-204
27 Post contains images tu204 : Cant use quote or hyperlink function on my bloody smartphone, but according to avia.ru's interview with the captain (its in Russian anyways), the airc
28 tu204 : Oh and by the way, 3 of the crew (Capt, FO, flight attendant) are still in hospital with "heavy injuries", in stable condition. According to doctors,
29 Post contains links pylon101 : No wonder - if they really were flying without full functioning AP. And we can add a possibility of malfunction of altimeter then. In 3-6 months we wi
30 Navigator : All qualified crews are able to fly an ILS approach without autopilot. There must be a combination of circumstances leading to this crash. Just an or
31 pylon101 : After the crash of Aeroflot-Nord Boeing-737-500 in Perm MAK (Inter-State Aviation Committee) prohibited flights without fully functioning AP. The ques
32 Severnaya : This rule is only concerning passenger flights, no position flights
33 pylon101 : MAK (Inter-State Aviation Committee) released another part of investigation information. Which decending, at altitude of 4,000 meters, the Processing
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