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AA/Eagle Back On ORD-PNS  
User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Not earth-shatterning news, but nonetheless a good addition for the Florida Panhandle and Gulf Coast, and for AA's Chicago hub. This is the return of Eagle service to this market after the route was discontinued during the fuel spike.

A good compliment to the United Express service to Chicago, plus the existing 6x daily Eagle flights to DFW and 2x daily Eagle flights to Miami soon to start.

Schedule:

AA3855 ORD 1100 PNS 1305 ER4 SatSun
AA3858 PNS 1330 ORD 1555 ER4 SatSun

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if this was back up to daily in fairly short order.

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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

It's a little unusual for AA to launch a route like this as weekend only service. To some extent, they may be doing this just to spite UA, though it would be odd for AA to make the effort for such an insignificant route.

It would be nice if one of them (UA or AA) would get this service up to daily.


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3386 times:
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Daily would certainly be nice, however is this flight long enough it would take weight restrictions?


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

Quoting commavia (Thread starter):
Not earth-shatterning

.....that's an understatement..  ...

How about something like ORD-HKG?



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User currently offlinecasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

Quoting iowaman (Reply 2):

Daily would certainly be nice, however is this flight long enough it would take weight restrictions?

Doubtful. The listed range of the ER4 is 1600+NM

PNS to ORD is only about 1000-1100 Miles or about 875-1000 NM. well within the range



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Quoting casInterest (Reply 4):
Doubtful. The listed range of the ER4 is 1600+NM

ORD-JAX - about 70 nm longer - takes pretty nasty weight restrictions from time to time.



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User currently offlinecasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
ORD-JAX - about 70 nm longer - takes pretty nasty weight restrictions from time to time.

I would imagine that is due to some nasty bouts westbound with the Jetstream. Jax is 300 NM east of PNS. PNS is almost straight south of ORD.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting casInterest (Reply 6):
I would imagine that is due to some nasty bouts westbound with the Jetstream.

No - it's ORD-JAX (not JAX-ORD) that takes restrictions.



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7616 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):

How about something like ORD-HKG?

But AAdvantage fliers can double the miles on their new Chicago-Pensacola flight.  



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User currently offlineJaxMan19 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
ORD-JAX - about 70 nm longer - takes pretty nasty weight restrictions from time to time.

Can JAX support mainline equipment to ORD on AA? i know they do it on UA but its only like 3x a day. I heard this is a largely underserved route, and i think mainline would work fine


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 8):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):

How about something like ORD-HKG?

But AAdvantage fliers can double the miles on their new Chicago-Pensacola flight.

  .........



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User currently offlinecasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
No - it's ORD-JAX (not JAX-ORD) that takes restrictions.

Was there a mail route or something?
that doesn't make sense from a seasonality/heading argument



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Quoting casInterest (Reply 11):
that doesn't make sense from a seasonality/heading argument

I think it's a weather/alternates problem. If they need alternates for JAX, the best case is MCO/SAV, and those are both a fair distance from JAX. At ORD, they have a lot more closer choices.



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User currently offlinecasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
think it's a weather/alternates problem. If they need alternates for JAX, the best case is MCO/SAV, and those are both a fair distance from JAX. At ORD, they have a lot more closer choices.

If that's the case, then PNS has VPS, and MOB within 40 miles.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Quoting casInterest (Reply 13):
If that's the case, then PNS has VPS, and MOB within 40 miles.

Distance is only half the battle, though. How often is the weather materially different at those three airports?



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User currently offlinecasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
Distance is only half the battle, though. How often is the weather materially different at those three airports?

Quite often. if you are talking about the summertime thunderstorms..
In the winter the fronts, unless a large storm, move west to east affecting MOB first.
Either way, the distance is well in range of ORD, and if neither looked good. there are tons of options to pull up at, such as Montgomery or Birmingham.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

Quoting casInterest (Reply 15):
Quite often. if you are talking about the summertime thunderstorms..

Interestingly, it's not the summertime storms that tend to cause the problems on ORD-JAX - largely for the reason you've alluded to (that they move through VERY quickly). It's the long, soaking rains that tend to come in March and April - and I think PNS gets those too. That said, I don't know that that's reason enough to say that ORD-PNS won't work. Unless you have rotten luck like me, I don't think it's a problem that often.



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