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User currently offlineAZA330 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 289 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7693 times:

Hi
I was looking at photos of the 747-8 production


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and it is interesting to notice the green color of the fuselage instead of the silver-metallic color typical of "older" fuselages


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Now I was thinking... what is the green depending on? Airframes used to be all aluminum, thus the silver color, but what is it that makes the 747-8's fuselage green?
Moreover, if ever airlines like American, which has a "no paint" livery, were to order 747-8s, would they keep them green? Or would they have to paint them silver and then put on the actual livery?

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User currently offlineBoeEngr From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7689 times:

The green is just a protective cover over the aluminum. It gets washed off in the paint hangar.

User currently offlineAZA330 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7634 times:


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So they fly with it to avoid ruining the actual surface of the metal?


User currently offlineBoeEngr From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

Quoting AZA330 (Reply 2):
So they fly with it to avoid ruining the actual surface of the metal?

It's to protect it while in the factory. But the planes are often flown to another site for painting, so it doesn't get washed off until then and that's why sometimes you see green ones flying.


User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6773 times:

Quoting AZA330 (Thread starter):
Moreover, if ever airlines like American, which has a "no paint" livery, were to order 747-8s, would they keep them green?

The 787 fuselage is not made of aluminimum, therefore, I believe American will be painting them grey like the A300's they used to have.


User currently offlinethreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2140 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6137 times:

Quoting planesailing (Reply 4):
The 787 fuselage is not made of aluminimum

True, but we're talking about the 747-8. It's fuselage is made of alumaximum.



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User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days ago) and read 5326 times:

Airbus does a similar thing. Their alodine just happens to be yellow. Ish.

User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

Quoting planesailing (Reply 4):
Quoting AZA330 (Thread starter):
Moreover, if ever airlines like American, which has a "no paint" livery, were to order 747-8s, would they keep them green?

The 787 fuselage is not made of aluminimum, therefore, I believe American will be painting them grey like the A300's they used to have.

That was only the first couple of years after that the majority of time they spent with AA, the A300's had silver paint I believe it was. So they did match the rest of the fleet and didn't have the dull grey.

FX1816


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3025 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4800 times:
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Quoting FX1816 (Reply 7):
That was only the first couple of years after that the majority of time they spent with AA, the A300's had silver paint I believe it was. So they did match the rest of the fleet and didn't have the dull grey.

The A300s were delievered in either grey or white
AA later replaced the skin panels and they were bare metal like the rest of the fleet.

AA may go for some sort of metalic paint on the 787 for a faux-metal finish... there are many paints out now that get that metal look, though more costly than flat or even regular metallic paints.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4235 times:

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 7):
That was only the first couple of years after that the majority of time they spent with AA, the A300's had silver paint I believe it was.

The AA A300s were bare metal after their first few years painted. I think the AA A300s during their bare metal years are still the only Airbus aircraft ever operated without fully-painted fuselages, which is supposedly for anti-corrosion purposes. Obviously AA was able to find some way to do away with the paint wihtout any corrosion issues.


User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4178 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 8):
AA may go for some sort of metalic paint on the 787 for a faux-metal finish... there are many paints out now that get that metal look, though more costly than flat or even regular metallic paints.

These paints are also heavier than normal paints as well. Due to the conditions that a plane is exposed to, I believe they would also require some type of "Clear-coat" to protect the metallic content in the paint itself. Otherwise, the metalic finish dulls over time. I remember reading it somewhere.



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User currently onlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

AA will never have 747s of any kind...unless there is a big change in Management and they start growing and give AA the complete overhaul of image it desperately needs... :O Just dreaming!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! AA 787s are ways away especially since there is no progress in labor talks with any of its unions; especially w/APA Pilots union.  

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