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Tokyo Airports - Where Are They?  
User currently offlineheathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 978 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 4650 times:

So please keep in mind, my knowledge of Japanese geography is terrible, however on google, I can't seem to pin the difference between HND and NRT. Can anyone explain the positioning in the city, and the difference? Regards,
Rudi

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User currently offlineFN1001 From Moldova, joined Sep 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Haneda is about 9,5 miles south and Narita is about 36 miles east of the Imperial Palace, which is a green spot in the center of Tokyo.


Mai bine să-ţi fie rău decît să-ţi pară rău.
User currently offlineheathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 978 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 4568 times:

thank you for this! I asked for directions from one airport to another, and it told me to walk out of Narita for a bit, turn back, and go back in to Narita. I was rather confused!

User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1314 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

You sure this isn't a wind up?!! Haneda is in Tokyo Bay, the west side. Narita is to the east of Haneda, out in the sticks. Haneda is a bit like flying into London City but with B747's, B777's etc while Narita is abit like flying out of Stansted without Ryanair!

User currently offlineFN1001 From Moldova, joined Sep 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

From NRT to HND:

the cheap way:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/access/haneda/index.html

the fast way:

http://www.mcas.co.jp/



Mai bine să-ţi fie rău decît să-ţi pară rău.
User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1314 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 4414 times:

Yeah, I'll take the chopper. Only £292 at current exchange rates (assuming 130 Yen to the the £).

User currently offlinecentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

Here are the locations on Google.
Narita International Airport

Haneda International Airport

Route between the two airports

Ibaraki Airport (new)

Route between Ibaraki and Narita

Route between Ibaraki and Haneda

Hope that helps
224km south of HND is Fuji Shizouka Airport
384km south of HND is Chubu International Airport (NGO)



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3737 times:

Where is Yokota Airbase ??, there is an Idea to give NRT to the US Airforce in Exchange for Making Yokota AB into an International airport in Eastern Tokyo...

Does that make any sense ???? Is there good rail service to Fussa ?? OYO (Yokota)

OYO only has one runway now but can it be expanded if the base is closed ???


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 7):
Where is Yokota Airbase ??, there is an Idea to give NRT to the US Airforce in Exchange for Making Yokota AB into an International airport in Eastern Tokyo...

Does that make any sense ???? Is there good rail service to Fussa ??

Yokota is west of downtown Tokyo. There is adequate commuter rail service near the base.

No. It does not make any sense.

There is no room at Yokota to build a second runway on the current base footprint.

NRT does not have enough land area to replace Yokota's additional activities on the non-runway/ taxiway footprint. Military housing, support facilities, etc. Swapping Yokota and Nartia would entail a over a billion dollars of construction - to recreate passenger and cargo terminals at Yokota, to tear those down and provide USAF needed facilities at Narita. The rail line to NRT would probably be abandoned for lack of use. The rail line to near Yokota would have to be rebuilt for another huge sum, and a link constructed directly into the new construction terminal.

Expansion and noise reduction at Yokota would be just as controversal as at Nartia, probably more so since the area around Yokota contains many more people than around Narita.

Yokota is part of a ring of US military bases across the area south of Tokyo. Yokota, Camp Zama, NAF Atsugi, Naval Base Yokosuka.

At some point, I'm sure the US military will leave Japan, but until that time, Yokota will remain the main USAF base in Japan. Atsugi will probably lose it's US Navy activity before Yokota loses the USAF.

Yokota or Atsugi might become a JASDF or JMSDF base. About half of Atsugi is JMSDF already. Otherwise one might become a cargo airport, but only after the US leaves, and with no second runway.


User currently offlinegocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4338 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 8):
Atsugi will probably lose it's US Navy activity before Yokota loses the USAF.

Negative. As long the carrier and ships are in Yokosuka, which, don't see them leaving anytime soon, Atsugi will still be there. We may be talking 20+ years.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2409 times:

We would probably see the ships leave Yokosuka before the USAF leaves Yokota. At least that was the thinking at CNFJ and 7th Flt when I was at Yokosuka.

There were also plans to move the carrier aircraft to Yokota and give up Atsugi if the JMSDF wanted to expand at Atsugi or the Japanese government demanded one of the bases be closed.

Yokota's runway is 3,000 feet longer and the base has over double the ramp space of Atsugi. It would be possible to move the carrier wing to Yokota, it would not be possible to move the USAF operations to Atsugi.

But you're right - do not expect any changes in the near future.

Though who knows what might happen in the future. We left a lot of Navy bases in Europe earlier than expected. No one expected the US to leave the Philippines / Subic in the 90s either.

I've seen a carrier in Apra Harbor in my many years in WestPac, it might happen again.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

I Hear Misawa is closing, moving those functions to Yokota someplace....as for US forces in Japan , things really need to downsize, the US and Japan are going broke suporting so many Overseas bases...when they are duplicated next door in Korea...South Korea has North Korea, so US needs to stay, for Japan its just Billions of Dollars and Trillions of YEN wasted...Japan is becoming a smaller and less rich country in the next 10 years, so things will need to "rightsize"

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