heathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 940 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3761 times:
So please keep in mind, my knowledge of Japanese geography is terrible, however on google, I can't seem to pin the difference between HND and NRT. Can anyone explain the positioning in the city, and the difference? Regards,
G-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1209 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3553 times:
You sure this isn't a wind up?!! Haneda is in Tokyo Bay, the west side. Narita is to the east of Haneda, out in the sticks. Haneda is a bit like flying into London City but with B747's, B777's etc while Narita is abit like flying out of Stansted without Ryanair!
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1660 times:
Quoting COSPN (Reply 7): Where is Yokota Airbase ??, there is an Idea to give NRT to the US Airforce in Exchange for Making Yokota AB into an International airport in Eastern Tokyo...
Does that make any sense ???? Is there good rail service to Fussa ??
Yokota is west of downtown Tokyo. There is adequate commuter rail service near the base.
No. It does not make any sense.
There is no room at Yokota to build a second runway on the current base footprint.
NRT does not have enough land area to replace Yokota's additional activities on the non-runway/ taxiway footprint. Military housing, support facilities, etc. Swapping Yokota and Nartia would entail a over a billion dollars of construction - to recreate passenger and cargo terminals at Yokota, to tear those down and provide USAF needed facilities at Narita. The rail line to NRT would probably be abandoned for lack of use. The rail line to near Yokota would have to be rebuilt for another huge sum, and a link constructed directly into the new construction terminal.
Expansion and noise reduction at Yokota would be just as controversal as at Nartia, probably more so since the area around Yokota contains many more people than around Narita.
Yokota is part of a ring of US military bases across the area south of Tokyo. Yokota, Camp Zama, NAF Atsugi, Naval Base Yokosuka.
At some point, I'm sure the US military will leave Japan, but until that time, Yokota will remain the main USAF base in Japan. Atsugi will probably lose it's US Navy activity before Yokota loses the USAF.
Yokota or Atsugi might become a JASDF or JMSDF base. About half of Atsugi is JMSDF already. Otherwise one might become a cargo airport, but only after the US leaves, and with no second runway.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1520 times:
We would probably see the ships leave Yokosuka before the USAF leaves Yokota. At least that was the thinking at CNFJ and 7th Flt when I was at Yokosuka.
There were also plans to move the carrier aircraft to Yokota and give up Atsugi if the JMSDF wanted to expand at Atsugi or the Japanese government demanded one of the bases be closed.
Yokota's runway is 3,000 feet longer and the base has over double the ramp space of Atsugi. It would be possible to move the carrier wing to Yokota, it would not be possible to move the USAF operations to Atsugi.
But you're right - do not expect any changes in the near future.
Though who knows what might happen in the future. We left a lot of Navy bases in Europe earlier than expected. No one expected the US to leave the Philippines / Subic in the 90s either.
I've seen a carrier in Apra Harbor in my many years in WestPac, it might happen again.
COSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1473 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1369 times:
I Hear Misawa is closing, moving those functions to Yokota someplace....as for US forces in Japan , things really need to downsize, the US and Japan are going broke suporting so many Overseas bases...when they are duplicated next door in Korea...South Korea has North Korea, so US needs to stay, for Japan its just Billions of Dollars and Trillions of YEN wasted...Japan is becoming a smaller and less rich country in the next 10 years, so things will need to "rightsize"