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Major AA Cuts To MIA This Summer Or Update?  
User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8771 times:
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I've been looking at flights into MIA in July and August this year and I've been getting some really crazy routings last night and today. When I went to look at flights from ORD and DFW into MIA AA.com is showing ORD-MIA at 4 flights/day and DFW-MIA at 2 flights/day - obviously this is a major draw down in capacity and would be very disappointing.

So my question: Is AA cutting capacity to MIA this summer or are they in the process of updating their schedule on AA.com this weekend and they just haven't finished?

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User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 506 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8436 times:

I'm sure AA is still loading its schedules!
ORD-MIA should be 9 times daily and DFW-MIA should get at least 9 or 10 rotations.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8417 times:

There are no cuts to these routes. MIA-DFW is 10x daily and MIA-ORD is 9x daily. That is not changing. AA will offer more daily seats and more daily flights from MIA this summer than any other period before in the hub's history, and it will exceed 300 daily flights for the first time ever.

[Edited 2010-03-28 23:44:21]


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User currently offline727lover From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6631 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6401 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
and it will exceed 300 daily flights for the first time ever.

Does this include AE?



I feel woozy....what did you put in that Pudding Pop?
User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5826 times:

As of now it appears that the max average daily departures for AA at MIA will be 286 this summer.

User currently offlinejayspilot From United States of America, joined May 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

The question that this brings to mind when I hear AA growth at MIA is where are they cutting flights and service to support this? I'm asking b/c the 737-800's comming onto the property are I think 1/1 replacments of the older 80's for a net zero aircraft growth. Is this the continued results of RDU and STL flying getting taken apart mostly or bits and pieces from the entire system?

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

Quoting FutureUScapt (Reply 4):
As of now it appears that the max average daily departures for AA at MIA will be 286 this summer.

They have been tinkering a lot with the schedules, but I believe some days in July were at 302, but I haven't checked lately.

Quoting jayspilot (Reply 5):
I'm asking b/c the 737-800's comming onto the property are I think 1/1 replacments of the older 80's for a net zero aircraft growth. I

No, they are not. The 738s are coming in at a rate of about 2 new 738s for every MD80 parked, and even then MD80 parking has slowed down quite a bit. In the fall AA actually put two previously parked MD80s back into service.



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User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

Quoting jayspilot (Reply 5):
I'm asking b/c the 737-800's comming onto the property are I think 1/1 replacments of the older 80's for a net zero aircraft growth. Is this the continued results of RDU and STL flying getting taken apart mostly or bits and pieces from the entire system?

AA is also adding 22 CR7s to its fleet and some of those are being used to replace certain mainline flights at ORD, which will allow mainline capacity to be shifted elsewhere in the system.


User currently offlineGlobalCabotage From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

AA is not shrinking MIA, it is growing MIA.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting FutureUScapt (Reply 7):

AA is also adding 22 CR7s to its fleet and some of those are being used to replace certain mainline flights at ORD, which will allow mainline capacity to be shifted elsewhere in the system.

That is true, but we have not seen any of that reflected in the schedules. The first CR7 will be flying by early July, but the schedule we see right now does not account for any of them.



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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1144 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

AA is adding a 3rd MIA-EZE this next summer (4 times per week), also another MIA-GYE flight...AA is not cutting MIA. MIA is one of the few hubs where AA is growing. AE is also adding flights (RJs) in MIA.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4634 times:

Here is the schedule for July:

Antigua - 1x
Aruba - 2x
Atlanta - 6x
Barbados - 2x
Belize City - 2x
Belo Horizonte - 4w
Bermuda - 1x
Birmingham - 2x
Bogota - 2x
Boston - 6x
Buenos Aires - 18w
Cali - 1x
Cancun - 30w
Caracas - 4x
Charleston - 2x
Chicago - 9x
Cincinnati - 8w
Columbus - 1x
Curaçao - 2x
Dallas - 10x
Denver - 1x
Detroit - 1x
Eagle County/Vail - 1w
Ft. Myers - 3x
Freeport - 31w
George Town - 9w
Governor's Harbor - 3w
Grand Cayman - 3x
Greensboro - 1x
Grenada - 4w
Guatemala City - 3x
Guayaquil - 10w
Hartford - 1x
Houston - 3x
Indianapolis - 1x
Key West - 46w
Kingston - 4x
Knoxville - 1x
Jacksonville - 33w
La Paz/Santa Cruz - 2x (triangle route)
La Romana - 2w
Las Vegas - 3x
Liberia - 1x
Lima - 3x
London - 8w
Los Angeles - 7x
Louisville - 1x
Madrid - 1x
Marsh Harbour - 2x
Managua - 2x
Maracaibo - 1x
Medellin - 2x
Memphis - 1x
Mexico City - 3x
Minneapolis - 1x
Montego Bay - 3x
Montevideo - 4w
Montreal - 3x
Nashville - 3x
Nassau - 69w
New Orleans - 3x
New York/JFK - 6x
New York/LGA - 10x
Newark - 3x
Norfolk - 2x
North Eleuthera - 4w
Orlando - 7x
Panama City - 3x
Paris - 1x
Pensacola - 2x
Philadelphia - 3x
Phoenix - 1x
Pittsburgh - 1x
Port au Prince - 4x
Port of Spain - 2x
Providenciales - 3x
Puerto Plata - 1x
Punta Cana - 3x
Quito - 2x
Raleigh - 3x
Recife/Salvador - 1x (triangle route)
Richmond - 1x
Rio de Janeiro - 11w
St. Croix - 1x
St. Kitts - 1x
St. Lucia - 10w
St. Maarten - 2x
St. Thomas - 2x
San Salvador - 2x
Sao Paulo - 3x
San Francisco - 3x
San Jose - 4x
San Juan - 8x
San Pedro Sula - 2x
Santiago de Chile - 1x
Santiago de los Caballeros- 10w
Santo Domingo - 4x
Savannah - 1x
Tallahassee - 3x
Tampa - 5x
Tegucigalpa - 1x
Treasure Cay - 4w
Toronto - 3x
Tulsa - 2w
Washington/DCA - 9x
Washington/IAD - 2x

[Edited 2010-03-29 18:58:50]


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User currently offlineaeroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4480 times:

When is upstate NY going to see a MIA flight? I guess our only hope is if MQ routes some CR7's through MIA.......

User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 737 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

One big disappointment is going to be AA299 MIA-LAX (the am three class 777)

From 7/2-8/23 that will downgrade to a 757  

AJMIA



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 13):
One big disappointment is going to be AA299 MIA-LAX (the am three class 777)

From 7/2-8/23 that will downgrade to a 757

No equipment past 7/1 is finalized yet, but this would not surprise me during this period as DFW-CDG goes 777 and the extra MIA-EZE operates during exactly these dates.



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User currently offlinetonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Any chance we can see MIA-LEX? And what about MIA-MLB?

[Edited 2010-03-29 23:11:43]

User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
St. Croix - 1x
St. Kitts - 1x
St. Lucia - 10w
St. Maarten - 2x
St. Thomas - 2x
San Salvador - 2x
Sao Paulo - 3x
San Francisco - 3x
San Jose - 4x
San Juan - 8x
San Pedro Sula - 2x
Santiago de Chile - 1x
Santiago de los Caballeros- 10w
Santo Domingo - 4x
Savannah - 1x

I notice you didn't list STL, did they drop the 2 x 757 they are running per day??


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7814 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days ago) and read 3404 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
No equipment past 7/1 is finalized yet, but this would not surprise me during this period as DFW-CDG goes 777 and the extra MIA-EZE operates during exactly these dates.

DFW-CDG goes 777 from June 10-August 23.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days ago) and read 3374 times:

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 16):
I notice you didn't list STL, did they drop the 2 x 757 they are running per day??

MIA-BWI 2x daily
MIA-STL 2x daily


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