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MAS Buys Two A330F And Confirms 15 A333  
User currently offlinerobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1121 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11284 times:

As reported by Forbes:

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- Malaysia Airlines placed an order Wednesday for up to four Airbus freighters and confirmed the purchase of up to 25 Airbus passenger planes in an expansion plan.


http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/...ss-as-malaysia-airbus_7477237.html

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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11238 times:

Congratulations to MAS and Airbus... This sizeable order is great news for an industry that is otherwise struggling at the moment!!


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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 857 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10903 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 1):
This sizeable order is great news for an industry that is otherwise struggling at the moment!!

They are?

I´ve read many new orders for A330s this year:
China Eastern-MAS-Royal Jordanian to name a few...

//Mike  



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6958 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10804 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 2):

I´ve read many new orders for A330s this year:
China Eastern-MAS-Royal Jordanian to name a few...

You may only have read about it this year but the China Eastern order happened last year.  


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10778 times:

2+2 A330-200F, first delivery in 2011. Will be interesting to see who will order next - appears that the A330-200F is carving out a niche in South-East Asia.


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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10629 times:

That's a good order for A, if I read it right they've placed firm orders for 15 Pax A330s and 2 A330Fs and 12 option.

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4689 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10402 times:

I wonder if MH will take the prototype which has PW engines?


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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10138 times:

Quoting robffm2 (Thread starter):

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- Malaysia Airlines placed an order Wednesday for up to four Airbus freighters and confirmed the purchase of up to 25 Airbus passenger planes in an expansion plan.

I am confused.
The 4 freighters are clear, but ...
are these (passenger planes) 25 new firm orders, 15 new firm orders, 10 new firm orders, or none new firm orders (as of March 31st)?


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10111 times:

As far as I understand:

2+2 A330-200F
15+10 A330-300

Total: 17 firm, 12 option = total 27 A330s

The 25 A330 passenger were already known as MAS had announced its intention some months ago, this is now the confirmation of this order. In addition, which wasn´t known, is the order for 2+2 A330-200F.



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10076 times:
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Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 8):
The 25 A330 passenger were already known as MAS had announced its intention some months ago, this is now the confirmation of this order. In addition, which wasn´t known, is the order for 2+2 A330-200F.

Thanks for the clarification of the numbers. It is very good to see them firm up the orders after their commitments last year. The A330 keeps on going very strong indeed.  


User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 9697 times:

Engine campaign is in its final stages. Should be a decision soon.

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6958 posts, RR: 63
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 9569 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 6):
I wonder if MH will take the prototype which has PW engines?

Nope. TK have snagged that one and it will be converted to RR before delivery.

Quoting PresRDC (Reply 10):
Engine campaign is in its final stages. Should be a decision soon.

And it will be FASCINATING!

Many years ago Malaysian and Thai launched the A330 with PW. Much more recently TG have switched to RR. So have LX (no doubt under pressure from LH) and US (under pressure from no-one).

But China Southern have recently switched from RR to PW.

What will Malaysian (in 2010) do?

I wonder if the A330F will swing it. Since Flyington Freighters appears to have gone nowhere, there are no current users for the PW-powered A330F. All known customers have chosen RR.

I'll be watching this one with more than usual interest.   


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 9463 times:

Indeed, the revelation on which power plant MH chooses will be the sweet ending to this news. Local enthusiasts are betting on team RR!

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6958 posts, RR: 63
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 9440 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 12):
Local enthusiasts are betting on team RR!

Make my day!   


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9252 times:

I am curious though... By the time the A330s are delivered, the world would have kinda moved on with the A350s, no?


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User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9172 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 11):
And it will be FASCINATING!

Many years ago Malaysian and Thai launched the A330 with PW. Much more recently TG have switched to RR. So have LX (no doubt under pressure from LH) and US (under pressure from no-one).

But China Southern have recently switched from RR to PW.

What will Malaysian (in 2010) do?

I wonder if the A330F will swing it. Since Flyington Freighters appears to have gone nowhere, there are no current users for the PW-powered A330F. All known customers have chosen RR.

I'll be watching this one with more than usual interest.

We'll know very, very soon. Like any day now soon.

Remember what I always say, though, at this stage in an engine campaign, it is not about the technical merits of the product, but rather the financial support package.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 12):
Indeed, the revelation on which power plant MH chooses will be the sweet ending to this news. Local enthusiasts are betting on team RR!

With all due respect to enthusiasts, if you are not in the room, you don;t know what's going on.


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9099 times:

The A330F can't be doing that well if someone can place an order now and take delivery next year? A backlog of orders shows an airplane is successful, right?

User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8508 times:

Quoting PresRDC (Reply 15):
With all due respect to enthusiasts, if you are not in the room, you don;t know what's going on.

But we all know how things are run in Malaysia. I do hope that the decision is made based on merit, cost, analysis and other business-justified reasons. Not because of who knows the Prime Minister better or who are better in sucking up the decision maker. Things like this always happen in Malaysia and it is SICKENING. We wish for the best for MH anyhow.


User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8020 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 11):
I wonder if the A330F will swing it. Since Flyington Freighters appears to have gone nowhere, there are no current users for the PW-powered A330F. All known customers have chosen RR.

I'll be watching this one with more than usual interest.

I'm going with the PW4170 on this one across the board...they have PW4068As now, so naturally the PW4170 would work with the uprated thrust...consider it a hunch PM!   However, I'll be happy either way. I do think RR would look sweet with MH's livery.

Quoting 413X3 (Reply 16):
The A330F can't be doing that well if someone can place an order now and take delivery next year? A backlog of orders shows an airplane is successful, right?


Well to be fair, the cargo market has been in shambles the last 2 years. I expect sales for the A330F increase in a couple years. It's the only freighter in it's size and weight class.



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User currently offlineoverloaduk From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7168 times:

Has FX placed any orders for the A330F??

User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3276 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6940 times:

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 14):
By the time the A330s are delivered, the world would have kinda moved on with the A350s, no

Perhaps when MH reviewed both the 787 and A350's regional capability against price and delivery slots, they decided the A333 outperformed the next-gen twins.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12792 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6553 times:
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Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 14):
By the time the A330s are delivered, the world would have kinda moved on with the A350s, no?

From Airbus's press release:
http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre..._03_31_a330_malaysia_airlines.html

Quote:
Deliveries of the passenger aircraft will begin in the first half of 2011, with the first freighter joining the MASkargo fleet later the same year.

The A350 isn't scheduled to EIS until mid 2013 at the earliest. How long do you think it would take for MAS to get their planes after the first 500 are delivered to other airlines? Same situation with the 787.

The A330-300 is simply the best medium-ranged regional jet available today. Even when the 787 is available, the A330-300 will still give it a run for its money over shorter routes.



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User currently offlineallegro From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 236 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6383 times:

Quoting overloaduk (Reply 19):
Has FX placed any orders for the A330F??

The real strength of the A332F is its payload capacity, not its volume. Would not make a very good package freighter where volume in a plane is king.

Now an A333F ...   



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User currently offlinecosmofly From United States of America, joined May 2009, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5616 times:

I wonder if MAS negotiated themselves off the 380 hook by firming these A330s

User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5399 times:

Cosmofly: They are definitely flying the A380s, this order has nothing to do with the A380, its replacement for the existing fleet of A330s .


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User currently offlinecosmofly From United States of America, joined May 2009, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

Good to know that MAS is confident about A380 ROI.

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