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AeroMexico Dropping SAN?  
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5472 posts, RR: 12
Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Another U.S. station to be closed by AM? Indications are that their single route from Lindbergh to Cabo and MEX will cease on or about May 9. (For example, the flight is no longer showing as bookable after that date on the AM website.)

Does anyone have confirmation of this? Is it permanent or maybe just a temporary suspension?

AM has operated continually from SAN since about 1992, with the single daily SJD-flight op'd consistanly for most of that time. (AS has also flown SAN-SJD for many years.) AM has a large operation 30 miles south of SAN out of TIJ.

I wonder if this cancellation is in response to the latest outbreak of violence on the US-Mexican border and interior Mexico, as well as continuing economic problems in both countries? (I have read here on A.net about other Mexico-service, including some from LA, being cut back at least for the summer as well.)

AS seems to be continuing their service in the market as of now...

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[Edited 2010-04-01 10:54:36]

[Edited 2010-04-01 10:58:09]

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User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Don't know, but it is extremely frustrating.

Most of my business is in Mexico and being a DL plat they make it hard to get there.


User currently offlinePDXFlyBoy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Great opportunity for DL to codeshare on the daily AS flight, SAN-SJD-SAN....don't you think!!!

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Wouldn't MX be a better fit for SAN? They have a lite operation out of TIJ and seem to serve the California-Mexico market in a more comprehensive way then AM can.


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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5472 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 3):
Wouldn't MX be a better fit for SAN? They have a lite operation out of TIJ and seem to serve the California-Mexico market in a more comprehensive way then AM can

Hey stranger, glad to see you posting, although not nearly enough!

I have hoped for years that MX would give Lindbergh a try and you're right on all counts, D. If this AM-news is true, maybe this will be an opportunity that Mexicana will finally take advantage of... I would sure think a daily SAN-MEX by that fine carrier would be a big hit!

Quoting PDXFlyBoy (Reply 2):
Great opportunity for DL to codeshare on the daily AS flight, SAN-SJD-SAN....don't you think!!!

Thinking outside of the box for a moment, how about a great opportunity for DL to start the route THEMSELVES? (There are those of us in San Diego that drool at the thought of DL -- from the WA days -- re-entering the SAN-Mexico market...)

bb


User currently offlineSANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1595 times:
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Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
I have hoped for years that MX would give Lindbergh a try and you're right on all counts, D. If this AM-news is true, maybe this will be an opportunity that Mexicana will finally take advantage of... I would sure think a daily SAN-MEX by that fine carrier would be a big hit!

It has been starting to look as if AM is focusing more on the East Coast,while MX concentrates on the
West Coast. They look as if they have more flights to the west than AM does, (even places like BFL.)
That's probably why AM has already pulled out of places like ONT,PHX,and soon to be SAN. I'm hoping
Mexicana steps in if or when AM drops service.However, this news still could be inacurrate. Wikipedia
has reported errors before.



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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5929 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1535 times:
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I think AM has quietly pulled out of the SEA-MEX route.

User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1492 times:
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Doesn't the TIJ market pull alot of people from SAN, especially with the increase of Mexican LCC service? Or can the SAN-MEX market hold it's own?


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User currently offlineSANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1488 times:
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Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5):
(even places like BFL.)

Sorry, I goofed, MX does FAT-GDL



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7374 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1468 times:

Quoting SANFan (Thread starter):
Another U.S. station to be closed by AM? Indications are that their single route from Lindbergh to Cabo and MEX will cease on or about May 9. (For example, the flight is no longer showing as bookable after that date on the AM website.)

Does anyone have confirmation of this?

Confirmation of anything done by AM requires the ability to speak in tongues or see alternate dimensions. If you told me they were closing all operations in MEX I wouldn't even blink. As I said before, they behave like a mental patient who isn't taking their meds.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5472 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):
Doesn't the TIJ market pull alot of people from SAN, especially with the increase of Mexican LCC service? Or can the SAN-MEX market hold it's own?

Some and yes (IMHO.) There is a lot of capacity out of TIJ (it is domestic service of course) and a lot of people who live north of the border DO fly from there. However, there are also many Southern Californians who will NOT cross the border to fly from TIJ. (If they want to fly to destinations not served from SAN -- which is pretty much all of them except SJD -- the travelers simply go thru LA or even PHX.)

And yes, I think a well-timed, reasonably priced, and consistently-served nonstop between SAN and MEX would do well. AM has served the route on-and-off over the years and still holds authority today to fly the route; WA served it for decades and even CO has served the market on occasion!

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 6):
I think AM has quietly pulled out of the SEA-MEX route.

Could be. Apparently quietly enough that you're the first to notice, D! (That doesn't say much for the amount of business or interest AM must have had out of there...) I looked at a few weeks in April and July and I sure don't see anything operating in that city-pair...

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5):
However, this news still could be inacurrate. Wikipedia has reported errors before

Absolutely L. That's why I'm trying to get confirmation from someone. (I will say that I have been very impressed by what I see on Wikipedia regarding SAN air service.)

But then, there is this to consider:

Quoting enilria (Reply 9):
Confirmation of anything done by AM requires the ability to speak in tongues or see alternate dimensions. If you told me they were closing all operations in MEX I wouldn't even blink. As I said before, they behave like a mental patient who isn't taking their meds.

LOL! I am not now, nor have I ever been a fan of AM and their "management" so I also am certainly not surprised by anything they do -- or don't do!

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User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1358 times:
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Quoting SANFan (Reply 10):
WA served it for decades and even CO has served the market on occasion!

Thanks SANFan. Yes, I took the WA 720B LAX-SAN that continued to MEX a few times in the 70s just to hear the Spanish PAs. Also did a CO 733 LAX-SAN (Continental West logo IIRC) once that went on to MEX.

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Quoting PDXFlyBoy (Reply 2):
Great opportunity for DL to codeshare on the daily AS flight, SAN-SJD-SAN....don't you think!!!

Maybe a second daily for AS? That flight does pretty well.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
I have hoped for years that MX would give Lindbergh a try

Funny that MX had a Sales Office in SAN for many years, even before they flew out of TIJ.



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5472 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 11):
Maybe a second daily for AS? That flight does pretty well.

Except that last summer the AS flight was reduced in frequency for a few summer months (due to the flu outbreak, the economy, and the violence.) But yes, it has, like the AM flight, been around for many years.

And I am waiting to see what AS does this summer; if they now in fact have the only flight in the market, I would hope it will hold up well.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 11):
Funny that MX had a Sales Office in SAN for many years, even before they flew out of TIJ

Yes, they used to have a pretty healthy presence in town and it does seem to me that there have been some rumors on-and-off over the years that they were sniffing around SAN about setting up an operation at Lindbergh...

It is unfortunately a fact of life here that for a good-sized city with about 17M pax a year through our airport, we right now have a TOTAL of 3 international flag cx -- that includes AM -- offering a grand total of 3 1/2 flights a day; including the AS flight, that makes 4 1/2 international flights -- and over half are to Canada!  

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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5929 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1234 times:
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Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):
Doesn't the TIJ market pull alot of people from SAN, especially with the increase of Mexican LCC service? Or can the SAN-MEX market hold it's own?

I would have thought this except for the wicked danger TIJ has been for people because of the drug battles there.

If anything, the drug battles at TIJ has benefited SAN.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 11):
Maybe a second daily for AS? That flight does pretty well.

I doubt it. If AM can't handle that market, then I don't think SAN could handle a 2nd daily. Unless there are signs that the Mexican tourist market is turning around in a big way, I think Mexico will continue to be stuck...with some exceptions.

Sorry SANFran.


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