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LH To Start BOG Next October  
User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7799 times:

Hi all,

According to colombian business paper, portafolio.com, LH will start BOG from October 28. It states its a decision already taken, and only a revision of the bilateral, to happen in May,

Here's the link:

http://www.portafolio.com.co/economi...eria-a-volar-a-colombia-_7552230-3

Also, with the application of AV for FRA, I guess to puts AV closer to Skyteam.

We shall wait and see.


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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7789 times:

Article translation:

The German airline, considered one of the best airlines in the world and that after 35 years in the country decided to leave in 2002, said that the decision has been made.

His arrival would only be subject to the relevant formalities with the aeronautical authorities of both countries.

"Lufthansa's decision to come to Colombia is taken, but must modify the current bilateral agreement and I think that will do in May," he told TIME Oscar Rueda, vice minister of Tourism, to explain that the company is looking fly Colombia daily, even when the current agreement only allows four weekly flights between the two countries.

"She is a wonderful news," said Rueda, who highlighted the fact that with the arrival of Lufthansa spaces begin to recover lost national tourism. "For ten years he had flights to United Kingdom (British Airways) to Italy (Alitalia), Holland (with KLM) and Germany (Lufthansa)," said the Deputy Minister.

The official said, also, that the interest of the German airline is reflected in the fact that their president met in Bogotá with President Álvaro
Uribe.

For its part, the president of Proexport, Nubia Stella Martinez, said the Lufthansa landing in the country "would be one of the most important things to ensure that travelers come from Europe," adding that the entity that presides over the country has been promoting in Germany for three years.

"We have succeeded in Colombia appears in the catalogs of the most important German wholesalers, such as TUI," he said, and stressed the advantage of a direct flight between the two countries, while passengers are forced to make stops.

Similarly, Martinez stressed the high quality of service provided by Lufthansa, which attract a high profile travelers to spend money in Colombia.

"Germany is another world. It is a country that had tourism history with Colombia, are travelers who love nature and often came to San Andrés
and Santa Marta, "said the official.

Lufthansa had flown for 35 years between Germany and Colombia and stopped doing so in January 2002 because of a restructuring of the company after invoke changes in the global economy.

Currently Avianca companies (to Madrid, from Bogota and Cali, and Barcelona, from Bogota), Iberia (Bogota - Madrid) and Air France (Bogota - Paris) operate direct flights from Colombia to Europe.

According to Proexport, Germany is the leading source of tourists in the world, followed by the United Kingdom and the United States. During 2008 there were 85
million German passenger departures to different destinations in the world and 26,139 arrived in Colombia in 2009, which represented an increase of 18.1 percent over 2008 figures.

Lufthansa flights between Frankfurt and Bogotá are conducted on the Airbus 340 aircraft with capacity for 260 passengers.



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User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8568 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7773 times:
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Quoting 777jaah (Thread starter):
Also, with the application of AV for FRA, I guess to puts AV closer to Skyteam.

Unless of course LH and AV came to this decision together in which case it could put AV closer to *A . I guess we should find out in the next few weeks .



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11438 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7702 times:
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That's interesting. A little more than a month ago, LH said that because of growing demand, they would also return to GIG market (which will probably happen with JJ code-share on GIG-FRA). It seems that LH focus on South America was suddenly increased.


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User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7415 times:

Great news! This is for sure a decision being made either to lure AV into Star or to start competing with them if they enter Skyteam, given that the airline applied for FRA.

The first time I went to Europe was on LH in August 2001, felw BOG-FRA and then connected to MAD. There is definately room for the airline in the market.



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User currently offlineBogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6672 times:

Great news, hopefully we will see BA back one day also.

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17516 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6618 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
It seems that LH focus on South America was suddenly increased.

I've thought BOG was definitely imminent for a while since Colombia is doing so well; I imagine LIM isn't too far behind either.



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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6608 times:

And finally LH 530/531 will be back!
This is great news. South America has been neglected by LH for a too long time now.


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5100 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6608 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):

I've thought BOG was definitely imminent for a while since Colombia is doing so well; I imagine LIM isn't too far behind either.

= On the money. They have to deploy those planes out of many of their loss making routes going east of Germany where they keep on losing yield to the GCC players. Good for Colombia.

Saludos,
A.



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User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6372 times:

Any idea if this will impact LH534/535?? Maybe a downgrade to 343 or not daily anymore?


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User currently offlinetalaier From Spain, joined May 2008, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6255 times:

Quoting Bogota (Reply 5):
Great news, hopefully we will see BA back one day also.

With the merger with IB being almost a reality now BA won't fly it's own planes to LatAm, so chances of that happening are close to zero. However, strictly speaking given that IB and BA are the same thing, BA already flies there daily 


User currently offlineACES320 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6057 times:

Any idea if this will impact LH534/535?? Maybe a downgrade to 343 or not daily anymore?

Quoting Bogota (Reply 5):
Great news, hopefully we will see BA back one day also.

Not until a good deal of B787 have arrived to their fleet, according to Mr. Walsh. Frankly BOG - LHR is the most obvious abscent European destination, but also the trickiest to get back in the cards.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11438 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6002 times:
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Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
I've thought BOG was definitely imminent for a while since Colombia is doing so well; I imagine LIM isn't too far behind either

Agree. But i would say, LH is still behind AF and IB, but the German Capital invested in South America for sure is closer or even bigger than the investment made by France.



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5100 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5851 times:

Quoting LH506 (Reply 9):
Any idea if this will impact LH534/535?? Maybe a downgrade to 343 or not daily anymore?

= I would personally be shocked if 534/535 goes away from being daily. There are seasonal adjustments to 343, but the flight does very well for LH. I take it almost once a week and J is almost always at 85% loads (yields are probably good as my expense reports are pretty solid...). Also, BOG traffic on to CCS is usually YCL and not JCL or FCL. I don't see CCS being affected a huge deal by this.

Saludos,
A.



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User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5803 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
Quoting LH506 (Reply 9):
Any idea if this will impact LH534/535?? Maybe a downgrade to 343 or not daily anymore?

= I would personally be shocked if 534/535 goes away from being daily. There are seasonal adjustments to 343, but the flight does very well for LH. I take it almost once a week and J is almost always at 85% loads (yields are probably good as my expense reports are pretty solid...). Also, BOG traffic on to CCS is usually YCL and not JCL or FCL. I don't see CCS being affected a huge deal by this.

Is also my experience on that flight, though I have not taken it in 2010, but about 10 times in J in 2009.



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User currently offlineGECMD11 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4240 times:

any chance LH will return back to UIO and LIM someday too?

User currently offlinePLANEGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

Quoting GECMD11 :


any chance LH will return back to UIO and LIM someday too?

Doubtful. If AV does go with *A, LH can rely on AV codeshares to funnel passengers to those two stations. Although LIM may stand a chance since it's a TA hub but onward connections to La Paz and Cuzco aren't really that high yielding.
  


Is there an LH press release to confirm that it's returning to BOG? I went to their website and couldn't find anything.


User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8568 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4106 times:
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Quoting PLANEGUY (Reply 16):

Is there an LH press release to confirm that it's returning to BOG? I went to their website and couldn't find anything.

If the story is correct I dont think that they will say anything until next month - see below

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 1):
"Lufthansa's decision to come to Colombia is taken, but must modify the current bilateral agreement and I think that will do in May," he told TIME Oscar Rueda, vice minister of Tourism, to explain that the company is looking fly Colombia daily, even when the current agreement only allows four weekly flights between the two countries.

I think it would be unwise to issue a press release advising the introduction of daily FRA-BOG before the bilateral permits the service .



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User currently offlineACES320 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Any idea so far as to what equipment is to be deployed? Back in 1999 I spotted an LH B747 taxing off from the international terminal at BOG. I may be wrong but also in those days the flight was a tag-on from UIO. I am unaware of what the situation was at the end of the services in 2002. Would they still offer a 3-class configured aircraft?


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User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8568 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3670 times:
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Quoting ACES320 (Reply 18):
Would they still offer a 3-class configured aircraft?

So far as I am aware all LH longhaul aircraft are 3 class these days , aren't they ?



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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Quoting ACES320 (Reply 18):
Any idea so far as to what equipment is to be deployed?

I would put my bet on an A343.


User currently offlineACES320 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Quoting Hirnie (Reply 20):
I would put my bet on an A343

So would I, but remember they do have plenty of choice these days. Not that they have any 747 to spare but with the arrival of the A380 some of those birds will be released too. One can always dream and is not that BOG tops up the ranks in terms of fleet variety. If it goes daily as propossed more certainly the aircraft would be a 343. If the weekly frecuencies are limited then the options broader.



Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 19):
So far as I am aware all LH longhaul aircraft are 3 class these days , aren't they ?

Apparently yes, but the LH website states configuration may vary on routes and fleets.



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User currently offlinebogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

Quoting ACES320 (Reply 18):
Any idea so far as to what equipment is to be deployed? Back in 1999 I spotted an LH B747 taxing off from the international terminal at BOG. I may be wrong but also in those days the flight was a tag-on from UIO. I am unaware of what the situation was at the end of the services in 2002. Would they still offer a 3-class configured aircraft?

LH operated B747 via CCS with a UIO tag on, then it operated a direct BOG to FRA ( I think it was with a LIM tag on) with a very complicated itinerary leaving BOG at 04:00 or so. Then it operated direct on A343 with no tag on (same to LIM) before finally closing down the route.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

as per my understanding LH had also already meetings in LIM, very good possible that they will be back in LIM till the end of the year.


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