robert1979 From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4968 times:
I was at SFO today and noticed an AA 738 at the gate. I checked FlightAware and it advised it was AA Flight 1954 from LAX. I was just curious if this was going to be a permanent change from the MD83 or it is a temporary equipment change. It looked very odd parked at the gates reserved for the 757's and 767's.
DLMD90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 257 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4943 times:
Yes. SFO-LAX is going to all 738 eventually, I believe by June.
aa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4880 times:
I'm flying on AA on 4/15 (SFO-ORD) on the redeye that leaves around 11:50pm. It was orginally scheduled to be a MD83. Now it's a 738.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4844 times:
Quoting DLMD90 (Reply 1): Yes. SFO-LAX is going to all 738 eventually, I believe by June.
Wow, is AA making LAX a 738 crew base? I thought that that (crew base considerations) was the reason that 738's are rarely seen unless the flight originates or terminates in DFW
Is SFO-LAX being operated as a tag-on to a DFW flight?
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robert1979 From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4411 times:
surfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4039 times:
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 7): S80s will become a lot less common at LAX.
I wonder if in a year or so all MD-80 flights will originate or terminate in either ORD or DFW. Looks like LAX, MIA, and JFK won't see any of them anymore.
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
crosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 684 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 8): I wonder if in a year or so all MD-80 flights will originate or terminate in either ORD or DFW. Looks like LAX, MIA, and JFK won't see any of them anymore.
atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5613 posts, RR: 54 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3716 times:
Will we see LAX-STL switch to 738 or is that S80 a STL "base" operation and not LAX?
I was checking flights from SFO-STL and it did have me re route through LAX on a 738 so thought that was interesting.
Alex
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American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3321 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3654 times:
Already back in 2002, I remember seeing an American 737-800 in SFO.
Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 8): I wonder if in a year or so all MD-80 flights will originate or terminate in either ORD or DFW.
And LGA. Except MIA, all AA flights out of LGA see S80's. Besides ORD and DFW which you mention, there will still be a few other flights such as BNA-LGA and STL-LGA seeing the S80, and RDU-LGA unless that one goes all Eagle.
Ben Soriano
"Aimer jusqu'a l'impossible, c'est possible". Tina Arena.
atomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 543 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3601 times:
I don't think there are going to be any AA MD-80s scheduled to SFO by this time next year.
BTW, does anyone know whether the 738s based out of LAX are the 148-seat or the 160-seat version?
Tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6172 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3567 times:
LAX-EWR is also operated by a 738
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3562 times:
Quoting American 767 (Reply 11): Quoting robert1979 (Thread starter):
I was at SFO today and noticed an AA 738 at the gate.
Already back in 2002, I remember seeing an American 737-800 in SFO.
I used to fly SFO-ORD-SFO on B738's quite a bit back in the early/mid 2000's....
According to American's employee site ORD-SFO from today on will be operated by new 738's and 1 763, however tomorrow (Friday 4/10) it is showing a mix of 738's, 1 763, and one MD80.
Tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6172 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3416 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 16): One would hope, the MD-80 doesn't have the range
God help us if they tried that.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
editing my own info............I believe beginning from this Saturday on through the summer I see ORD-SFO being operated by 3 738's, 1 763, and 1 MD-80 daily until august or so (according to employee intranet). Either way good to see AA placing the new 738's on the ORD-SFO route as well as adding an extra frequency.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3365 times:
Tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6172 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3346 times:
stealth777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3332 times:
Actually from a noise perspective its a very good thing that AA is dropping the MD-80's out from KSFO. This will help the neighbors stop complaining about the noise those planes makes. I believe the MD-80's is the loudest plane operating into SFO so all i can say good riddence. Trust me I'm not one of those complaining, I just have to deal with them (the people not the jets that is)
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3121 times:
Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 20): Since January. It was a 762 from May-Mid November '09 and then a 757 in December and finally to a 738 in Jan of this year.
I can't speak about yields, but the LF for the year 2009 was 80,68%. For the months when it was operated by a 752 the average LF was 76,95% and for the ones were it was flown by a 762 the LF was 85,22%. As the 762 is a 3-class aircraft, and even though I don't know the yields, I suppose they are performing quite well...
UALORD From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 73 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2984 times:
Quoting CPelka (Reply 18):
ORD-SFO being operated by 3 738's, 1 763, and 1 MD-80 daily until august or so (according to employee intranet). Either way good to see AA placing the new 738's on the ORD-SFO route as well as adding an extra frequency.
It seems that AA can't keep up with UA capacity on the SFO-ORD. And those flight run full.
25 commavia: As much is to be expected, considering that Chicago and San Francisco are two of United's largest hubs, and thus it is only logical that they will be
26 Tommy767: 85% for a 762 between EWR-LAX isn't bad. AA tends to bring the 762 back in periods every few or so years (see IAD as well.)
27 thebry: Yup... I'm going to be on AA1915 on Monday - SFO-LAX for connection to AA144 non-stop LAX-IAD flight. Both legs are on 738s. What's surprising is that
28 aar90: LAX was the FIRST 738 pilot crew base and has remained active since it began. We have no "co-terminals in SoCal. All are "satellite" crew bases [smal
29 PacificClipper: Considering the current state of the 757 interiors, the 738 is an upgrade from an aesthetic POV. Comfort and amenities are probably about the same th
30 CPelka: according to my employee site the ORD-SFO flights do really well....they've been evenly sold or oversold all week and seem to remain that way for the
31 AABB777: I was on AA149 IAD-LAX and AA74 LAX-IAD last week and both were the new 738s with new F and Y seating. The F Class seats are much less "bulky" than t
32 Tomassjc: AA SJC-ORD is now a 738 2x daily. Nice to have a change of scene at SJC. .
33 American 767: Wasn't ORD-SJC the first flight that ever saw the 738 back in 1999 when the type was introduced? IIRC it was. Then it saw the Super 80 for a while wh
34 commavia: Nope. It was March 2 1999 if I remember correctly, and the first flights were 77 IAD-LAX (of 9/11 infamy) and a morning ORD-LAX, timed so they would
35 KELPkid: I would imagine you could fly overwater through most of the Gulf of Mexico/Carribean without being more than 60 minutes flying time beyond a suitable
36 AAR90: Not that I am aware of. AA 738s are NOT ETOPS certified.
37 AABB777: Correct: AA 738s are not ETOPS certified, but rather over water certified.
38 N62NA: And it (EWR-LAX) will most likely be dropped by AA completely in the next few years.
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