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User currently offlinewill777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 174 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14274 times:

I was in PHL a couple of weeks ago. My DL flight left at 10:20ish in the morning and as I was looking out the window watching all of the planes taking off, in a period of about ten minutes, there were two US A330s that took off. I am not sure whether they were 200s or 300s. I know that US operates an A330 to SJU from PHL, but where would the other one have been going? Also, as we were taxiing, I noticed another A330 sitting at a gate in the international terminal.

I have two questions:

1. Where could these two or three A330s be going in the morning?
2. What are all the routes the 200s and 300s are operated on?

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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14185 times:

IIRC Cancun is the other morning departure on an A330.

EDIT...Here is the 330 schedule on Sunday (4/11):

CLT

CDG-332
FRA-333
LGW-333

PHL

CDG-332
CUN-333
FCO-333
FRA-333, 332
LHR-332
MAD-333
MAN-333
MUC-332
SJU-333
TLV-332

[Edited 2010-04-10 14:19:56]


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User currently offlinewill777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13855 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 1):
IIRC Cancun is the other morning departure on an A330.

EDIT...Here is the 330 schedule on Sunday (4/11):

CLT

CDG-332
FRA-333
LGW-333

PHL

CDG-332
CUN-333
FCO-333
FRA-333, 332
LHR-332
MAD-333
MAN-333
MUC-332
SJU-333
TLV-332

Thanks a lot! Do you have any idea what the third A330 would have been doing then?


User currently offlinefascm170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13842 times:

Depending on the aircraft availability, CUN and SJU also see the A330-200 when TLV turns to either station


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User currently offlinewill777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13813 times:

Quoting fascm170 (Reply 3):
Depending on the aircraft availability, CUN and SJU also see the A330-200 when TLV turns to either station

So this means that after an aircraft comes back from TLV it could continue on to CUN or SJU and then go back to somewhere else in Europe later?

Quoting wn676 (Reply 1):
FRA-333, 332

Aren't both FRA flights 333?


User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13498 times:

Quoting will777 (Reply 4):

It varies. Next month it will go to a 333 I think, but later on around September it downgauges to a 767.



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User currently offlinebomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13283 times:

I was in BOS on the 5th and saw a US A332 taking off from runway 22R. What routes do they fly out of BOS with any of their A330's?

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User currently offlinethegman From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13222 times:

Quoting bomber996 (Reply 6):
I was in BOS on the 5th and saw a US A332 taking off from runway 22R. What routes do they fly out of BOS with any of their A330's?

Not anything regularly scheduled. Weather diversion possibly.


User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12810 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 1):
IIRC Cancun is the other morning departure on an A330.

Correct, it was most likely Cancun...


User currently offlinefascm170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12001 times:

Quoting will777 (Reply 4):
So this means that after an aircraft comes back from TLV it could continue on to CUN or SJU and then go back to somewhere else in Europe later?

Yes. When the A330-200 fleet waas only 2 aircrfys, one was sitting on the ground all day in PHL after the arrival from TLV. Now, the fleet is 7 aircrafs, so there is a chance that either SJU or CUN will get the -200 from a TLV inbounf



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User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8342 times:

anybody know if CUN will become a permanent A330 route sometime in the future??? they're only operating the A330 on PHL-CUN for the busy season this year....

User currently offlinefascm170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5352 times:

I am flying to CUN tomorrow morning on US803 and it is scheduled a A-330-200 at 740a. So hopefully I can get a seat in the front. The 9:40a is also an A330 but a -300. For the months of Sep/Oct there may not be a widebody in CUN. This is the first year that US is sending those big birds down there.


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User currently offlinejimbobjoe From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

Is there that much traffic to Cancun, or is it just the best use of the airplane?

User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

Quoting fascm170 (Reply 11):
I am flying to CUN tomorrow morning on US803 and it is scheduled a A-330-200 at 740a. So hopefully I can get a seat in the front. The 9:40a is also an A330 but a -300.

WOW, I just noticed that. Tomorrow USAirways is running TWO A330s on PHL-CUN, + an A319 flight

Quoting jimbobjoe (Reply 12):
Is there that much traffic to Cancun, or is it just the best use of the airplane?

Both... lots of traffic, plus the aircraft can do a Cancun turn, and then go to Europe in the evening. most of last week they were running an A321, follow by a 767, A330 and A319.. that's a lot of seats, but still not as many as CO's 8-9 737 flights out of IAH


User currently offlinefascm170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 13):
WOW, I just noticed that. Tomorrow USAirways is running TWO A330s on PHL-CUN, + an A319 flight

Just got back from CUN. Flew on N282AY with the Envoy suite southbound. Great experience. Today marked the last A330 CUN flights for the season. Both flights left CUN full.



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User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Why not send their A330's on more lucrative routes while they're waiting for their European departures in the evening? Say PHL-LAX or maybe SFO? CUN is probably trash yields most if not all year round.

User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Quoting fascm170 (Reply 14):
Today marked the last A330 CUN flights for the season. Both flights left CUN full.

sad day, i would've like for the A330s to remain on that route..... "both flights full" at least it ended on a high note

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 15):
Why not send their A330's on more lucrative routes while they're waiting for their European departures in the evening? Say PHL-LAX or maybe SFO? CUN is probably trash yields most if not all year round.

The A330s on PHL-CUN were only seasonal.


User currently offlinejimbobjoe From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 15):
Say PHL-LAX or maybe SFO?

Is there enough time for that? It appears that PHL-CUN is about 3-3 1/2 hours each way but PHL-LAX/SFO would be more like 5 1/2-6 1/2 hours each way.


User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

Quoting jimbobjoe (Reply 17):

Looking at the other flights, it seems to be about 5.5 westbound and 4.5 eastbound. So 10 hours of flying time, plus an hour at least on the ground at SFO. IIRC European outbounds need 120 minutes ground time at a minimum. It apprears that the last 330 departures leave between 2100 and 2200. If the aircraft is off from PHL by 0800 it's theoretically possible, but doesn't leave a lot of room for error.



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User currently offlineL1011buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

Are they still packed in like sardines? IIRC, 298 on the -300. The recent seating is awful, especially for a 6ft4inch frame like mine!

User currently offlinewill777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

Quoting L1011buff (Reply 19):
IIRC, 298 on the -300.

According to Seatguru:

US A330-300
Envoy Sleeper Class - 6
Envoy Class - 24
Economy Class - 224

That makes for a total of 254 with 31.0" pitch and 17.0" seat width in economy. Not too out of the ordinary.


User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Quoting will777 (Reply 20):
According to Seatguru:

US A330-300
Envoy Sleeper Class - 6
Envoy Class - 24
Economy Class - 224

That makes for a total of 254 with 31.0" pitch and 17.0" seat width in economy. Not too out of the ordinary.

What's more amazing is that LCC somehow crams 258 in their A330-200's, which are ACTUALLY 16 feet shorter than the -300.....how is that even possible!!!!!


User currently offlinecslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

Seat Guru sound incorrect. The US Airways website states that the A333 has 30 Envoy and 263 Economy seats. This adds up to 293.


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User currently offlineL1011buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

cslusarc, I think you're right, when I was on one in the fall of '08, it was horrendus, and to think several years ago, it was much more comfortable when they had a total of 266 IIRC. What is the true seat pitch in Y?

User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

What's US plan for their 330s anyway? Until a year or two ago they only hat the 333s. So why did they order the 332? Did they need they greater range or couldn't they fill the bigger 333?


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User currently offlineca2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 954 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Quoting UA933 (Reply 24):
What's US plan for their 330s anyway? Until a year or two ago they only hat the 333s. So why did they order the 332? Did they need they greater range or couldn't they fill the bigger 333?

The 332 was intended to be both a "growth" aircraft and a 767 replacement. Obviously the 767's are sticking around longer than originally intended. I don't believe US will take another 332 delivery for about 2 years now that they were deferred. IMHO, US only utilizes the full potential of their 332's range on PHL-TLV.

The 333's will eventually get the Envoy Suites, but I don't believe that will be completed until fall 2011?


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