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User currently offlineafitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 815 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7230 times:

jetBlue confirmed there is interest in BDL. Hartford Courant article below


http://www.courant.com/business/hc-j...tblue-bradley-0412,0,2704311.story

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User currently offlinejetblueatjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

About time! It'll probably be just a few Florida flights most likely

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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7166 times:
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How about an east-west route like BDL-LGB or BDL-LAX?

User currently offlineBoiler905 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7031 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
How about an east-west route like BDL-LGB or BDL-LAX?

My guess would be they won't fly much farther than MCO or FLL at the start of their BDL service. It's always good to hope for that transcontinental flight though!



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4663 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6946 times:

I can't believe they didnt jump on BDL-FLL last year when DL abandoned the route entirely for 6 months! and they re doing the same thing this summer.

I believe we will see BDL and PVD to MCO and FLL in the next 12-18 months RSW is ripe for the picking for both too though that one would probably be a seasonal addition.



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User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2864 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6652 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
How about an east-west route like BDL-LGB or BDL-LAX?

Won't happen. Remember that LAX is still a small spoke for B6, given that only JFK and BOS (its two largest hubs) are served from there. If anything, the next cities that B6 will link with LAX will be MCO, FLL, and IAD (in order of most to least likely) - it will be very important for them to link LAX with their burgeoning Caribbean/Latin American network, especially if more flights are added from Florida. As for LGB, that airport is once again maxed out in terms of slots - B6 can't add anything without taking away an existing flight. Ok, they did get one slot from the recent airport proceedings, but they will probably just use it to add another daily frequency to SFO, OAK, or LAS, or MAYBE introduce LGB-MCO, which is by far the most glaring omission in their network today. It's really too bad that LGB is so restricted, because if it wasn't, I guarantee you that B6 would be flying to not only SEA/PDX/SFO/OAK/SMF/LAS/SLC/ORD/AUS/FLL/IAD/JFK/BOS but also SJC (probably would have worked out had LGB slots not been so scarce - maximizing SFO frequencies was just more important), DEN, PHX, HOU, MSY, MCO, and EWR.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 4):
I can't believe they didnt jump on BDL-FLL last year when DL abandoned the route entirely for 6 months! and they re doing the same thing this summer.

Yes but WN picked this one up, and given its longstanding presence in the market, would probably crush a new entrant.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 4):
I believe we will see BDL and PVD to MCO and FLL in the next 12-18 months RSW is ripe for the picking for both too though that one would probably be a seasonal addition.

I would think BDL and PHL will be the next Northeastern cities to get B6, while PVD would probably be considered later on along with MHT and ALB. Yes, in all cases MCO (certainly) and FLL (very likely) would be added first. TPA, RSW, and PBI would probably be introduced if flights to the first two cities did really well.



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4663 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6627 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 5):
Yes but WN picked this one up, and given its longstanding presence in the market, would probably crush a new entrant.

Saturday only... BDL-FLL used to have 400 daily seats in the summer when they had song, last summer and this summer they will have zero (except saturdays)

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 5):
I would think BDL and PHL will be the next Northeastern cities to get B6, while PVD would probably be considered later on along with MHT and ALB.

I think PVD and BDL are closer in B6s eyes because PVD's Florida routes lack competition, where as BDL's have two carriers on TPA and MCO. B6 will have to hedge their bets that DL will drop whatever BDL-FLA routes they start rather than respond (likely scenario). That said I think the chance that BDL will be first is pretty good, primarily because of the FLL vacancy, but I think both will have B6 by the end of next year.



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6529 times:
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Yeah, they say it every year. Call me when it happens.

There's at least some free gates even after the closing of terminal B. A20 is still partially blocked (but shouldn't be for much longer) and last I checked A7 and A9 were still free. They could move right in without much of an issue.



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User currently offlineBlueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6218 times:

Quoting Boiler905 (Reply 3):
My guess would be they won't fly much farther than MCO or FLL at the start of their BDL service. It's always good to hope for that transcontinental flight though!

I agree wait to see how that service is before transcontinental



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 4):
RSW is ripe for the picking for both too though that one would probably be a seasonal addition.

What's the demand from smaller northeast cities to RSW like? As a midwesterner, I think of RSW as much more of a destination from the midwest, but maybe my perception is off.



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User currently offlinejetstream3399 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

I would bet that SJU is one of the initial cities announced from BDL. I believe B6 has had an interest in serving this market for a while and has been considering weekend only service for some time now.

User currently offlineiliribdl From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5855 times:

Their officials were at BDL looking at the former NW counter as well as break room, taking pics, etc. A WN employee saw them, being that the space where NW was is right next to WN lol.

I think its only a matter of time, we'll probably see them there by summer.  



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User currently offlinesectflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5847 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 5):
Yes but WN picked this one up, and given its longstanding presence in the market, would probably crush a new entrant.

I think just about anyone would pick B6 over WN if they had the choice. WN are not even the best fares anymore.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7519 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5807 times:

Quoting sectflyer (Reply 12):
I think just about anyone would pick B6 over WN if they had the choice. WN are not even the best fares anymore.

If the difference in airfare isn't extreme; someone who's checking two bags (as opposed to one) may very well choose WN over B6.



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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5798 times:

And why do you think WN doesn't have the best fares anymore? They're not stupid. Since they're the only major that doesn't currently charge for the first 2 bags checked, they have to make up for that lost revenue somewhere. And for the record, you can still find a good fare an WN as long as you purchase your ticket at least 7 days in advance. It's the average walk up fares that are usually more expensive, depending on the market.

User currently offlinesectflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5776 times:

Nice comfy leather seats, lots of legroom, Live tv at every seat. Preassigned seats. Great snacks. Or the cattle chute.MOOOOOOOOOOOO! If I have to go to BWI or PHL I will use WN. Aside from that forget it!

User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3739 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5728 times:

This reminds me of B6 at IND rumors around the time the E190s came in...

In 2005, the press in Indy (I lived in an Indianapolis suburb part of that year) constantly heard rumors that B6 was coming to or was ready to enter IND, and B6 told the press that they were strongly considering IND as a new E190 city. None of it bore fruit. And I don't think that B6 will ever enter IND now because of the AA codeshare and Eagle starting JFK-IND...



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User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 5):
As for LGB, that airport is once again maxed out in terms of slots - B6 can't add anything without taking away an existing flight. Ok, they did get one slot from the recent airport proceedings, but they will probably just use it to add another daily frequency to SFO, OAK, or LAS, or MAYBE introduce LGB-MCO, which is by far the most glaring omission in their network today.

Nope, the slot has already been inplamented to the current flight schedule.



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User currently onlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 981 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5587 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 16):
This reminds me of B6 at IND rumors around the time the E190s came in...

Rumors were flying around in DAB when the E190s came in too.

Any chance this could involve some BDL-JFK flights to feed other markets?



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5432 times:

Quoting jetstream3399 (Reply 10):
I would bet that SJU is one of the initial cities announced from BDL. I believe B6 has had an interest in serving this market for a while and has been considering weekend only service for some time now.

There is probably some truth hidden in here somewhere. I could see JetBlue adding BDL-MCO/FLL/SJU service initially.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

Quoting jetstream3399 (Reply 10):
I would bet that SJU is one of the initial cities announced from BDL

AA gets a nice mix of local and connecting traffic on BDL-SJU; is there enough local traffic to Puerto Rico to make SJU work without connections on one end?



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5234 times:
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Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 20):
AA gets a nice mix of local and connecting traffic on BDL-SJU; is there enough local traffic to Puerto Rico to make SJU work without connections on one end?

There was enough that they were filling up A300s and 757s for years. Even in this lesser economy the massive PR population in both Springfield and Hartford hasn't disappeared.



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User currently offlinedeltaguy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 663 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 18):

Any chance this could involve some BDL-JFK flights to feed other markets?

Unlikely as often times the ATC delays on DL's CRJ flight would be longer than if one were to drive or take Amtrak. I could see B6 go for DL's BDL-Florida routes, but DL has a huge FF base in the BDL area. They are the largest market share carrier at BDL and it was not too long in the past where BDL would see regular 757/767 service. I wouldn't expect DL to immediately throw up the white flag even if B6 comes to BDL, it may yet force DL to swap the MadDogs for 738's or more IFE friendly A/C to compete.

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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5184 times:

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 21):
There was enough that they were filling up A300s and 757s for years.

But, again, that was local and connecting traffic. That's why as the hub shrank, AA's service levels had to shrink too.



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User currently offlinesasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5184 times:

Quoting sectflyer (Reply 12):
Quoting sectflyer (Reply 12):
I think just about anyone would pick B6 over WN if they had the choice. WN are not even the best fares anymore.

I fly out of BDL quite frequently and thus far have managed to avoid WN on every flight. Having B6 would just be that much better, I'll gladly pay the baggage fees rather than have to fly WN!! YMMV.


25 luvfa : B6 @ BDL will be like WN @ BOS . In that they will fly to their bread & butter cities. In BOS, WN flies to MDW, BWI, DEN and STL and soon PHL. I
26 Blueman87 : I say these following routes pretty much agree with everyone BDL-FLL 3 BDL-MCO 3 BDL-SJU 2 maybe even seasonal BDL-NAS
27 USAirALB : Yup, I bet BDL is next, maybe followed by ALB and PVD.
28 JetBlueAUS : If JetBlue can make BUF-TPA/RSW work... They might possibly do one daily seasonal flight to each city.
29 FWAERJ : As mentioned before, the first bag is free on JetBlue, as are the snacks and TV. Hope you folks in BDL don't end up like the fliers in IND...
30 WROORD : I totally think that if B6 enters BDL it will probaly start E190 service to JFK to give option for pax to continue their trip internationally with B6
31 ERJ170 : This is the most sane thing I have seen yet. I totally see 2 or 3x JFK and though unlikely, maybe 1x BOS.. that's about it.. jetBlue starts initial F
32 mah4546 : BDL is one of SJU's ten largest domestic O&D markets.
33 ERJ170 : And thus why AA flies the route.. but it doesn't mean B6 would necessarily fly the route.. B6 is way more hub/focus focused (except the AUS experimen
34 ptugarin : What about IAD (or BWI) and ORD? Could B6 make them work out of BDL?
35 ptugarin : One thing that the article is inaccurate about is that it mentions Hyannis and Provincetown as B6 cities (which they technically aren't), and missed N
36 JBAirwaysFan : First checked bag (and carry-on) is still free with JetBlue
37 Post contains images sasd209 : Understood....I was illustrating my point.
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