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AS Adds Daily PDX-HNL  
User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10763 times:

And the Hawaii expansion continues:

http://www.alaskasworld.com/newsroom...s/asstories/AS_20100413_101204.asp

Quote:
Alaska Airlines Announces Nonstop Portland-Honolulu Service
4/13/2010 10:15 a.m.

SEATTLE — Alaska Airlines today announced it will add a second nonstop flight between Portland, Ore., and Hawaii, with year-round, daily service to Honolulu beginning Sept. 20, 2010. The airline already flies between Portland and Kahului, Maui.

"We're excited to provide our Portland customers with additional nonstop service to the Hawaiian Islands," said Joe Sprague, Alaska's vice president of marketing. "With its beautiful beaches, historic sites and endless sunshine, Honolulu is a great complement to our existing Portland-Maui nonstop service. Including these new flights, Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will serve the Portland market with 90 daily departures — more than twice that of any other airline."

Summary of new service:

Portland-Honolulu 7:25 a.m. - 10:25 a.m. Daily
Honolulu-Portland 11:25 a.m. - 8:10 p.m. Daily


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10738 times:

AK just about owns hawaii these days......probably time for them to start looking to mex/cent america once again....in order to balance your operation.


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineflyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10653 times:

this will be what ... the 12th Hawaii route for Alaska?

User currently offlineBoeEngr From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10646 times:

Awesome! I love the AS Hawaiian service.

In a few more weeks I'll be using it for SEA - OGG. Can't wait!


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10560 times:

Isn't Delta dropping their PDX-HNL flight at the end of August? Certainly interesting timing.

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1944 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10560 times:

DL leaves, AS fills in. This one wasn't hard to see coming.

User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10534 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 5):
DL leaves, AS fills in. This one wasn't hard to see coming.

Nope, not at all...



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10482 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 5):
DL leaves, AS fills in. This one wasn't hard to see coming.
Quoting nwaesc (Reply 6):
Nope, not at all...

True. Probably only a matter of time before AS starts something from SAN.


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10463 times:
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Quoting BoeEngr (Reply 3):
Awesome! I love the AS Hawaiian service.

In a few more weeks I'll be using it for SEA - OGG. Can't wait!

Yes...enjoy it! I flew the PDX-OGG route not too long ago.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 5):
DL leaves, AS fills in. This one wasn't hard to see coming.

I would have been more surprised if AS didn't backfill the route left by DL.


User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 9426 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10446 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 4):
Isn't Delta dropping their PDX-HNL flight at the end of August? Certainly interesting timing.

hmmm Delta cuts, AS, who Delta codeshares with, adds it back.......whats that called again?
Have fun in 2012 Mr. Anderson.  



yep.
User currently offlinealaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10329 times:

I remember a lot of people saying that AS would have a lot of trouble making 737 flights to Hawaii profitable...12 routes later I guess AS is doing quite well.

User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10242 times:
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Quoting hatbutton (Reply 7):
True. Probably only a matter of time before AS starts something from SAN.

That would make SANFran happy...as he waits patiently.


User currently offlineBoeEngr From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10198 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 8):
Yes...enjoy it! I flew the PDX-OGG route not too long ago.

I flew AS for SEA - HNL back in September and loved it. I have no doubt this flight will be every bit as great.

Quoting alaska737 (Reply 10):
I remember a lot of people saying that AS would have a lot of trouble making 737 flights to Hawaii profitable...12 routes later I guess AS is doing quite well.

It would appear so. So great to see!


User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10126 times:

I have always liked Alaska Airlines. They appear to take calculated risks to launch new markets. Years ago they began the Fly the Sun service to Palm Springs from San Francisco. Later on they dived into Mexico service and transcons from SEA. Recently they have launched Hawaii service from various West Coast cities which I think is great. When their intra-California routes were drying up they looked for new markets. I hope this service does well since Hawaii is a great destination for those who live in the rainly cold Northwest.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9947 times:

There are some destinations they could make money on within range of the 73s.....SJO, BZE, GUA, MTY, AUS, MSY


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9823 times:

DL just announced the end of its PDX-HNL flights, and it sure didn't take long for AS to make its move! It will be much more interesting to see if AS gives KOA or even LIH a try out of PDX.


Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineual757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9117 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 14):
There are some destinations they could make money on within range of the 73s.....SJO, BZE, GUA, MTY, AUS, MSY

AS does fly to AUS. SEA-AUS and SJC-AUS.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8944 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 7):
Probably only a matter of time before AS starts something from SAN.
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 5):
DL leaves, AS fills in.
Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 11):
That would make SANFan happy...as he waits patiently.

To all of the above, I say... Bring It On, Alaska! You WILL succeed with any route from SAN to Hawaii. Please start using those 3 mostly-empty gates of yours at Lindbergh for some new flights - and this would be a great start!

Back to the real subject of the thread, congrat's to you PDX for this almost-instantaneous lost-service replacement. (I personally envy you for having an airline with the interest and ability to do something like this. Whether you are considered a hub, secondary hub, or whatever, by AS, you are very fortunate.)

bb


User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8657 times:

Indeed, I do forsee SAN-HNL to be on the AS route map in the near future.  
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 14):
There are some destinations they could make money on within range of the 73s.....SJO, BZE, GUA, MTY, AUS, MSY

I completely agree. (well, sans AUS since they already serve it)   

I would be willing to bet monopoly money that AS could make LAX-SJO/BZE/GUA/MTY a profitable venture, if they ever decided to pursue it. Why not? The rumors have been around since AS bought 737s that they'd eventually hit Central America...

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport


User currently offlinePohakuloa From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8554 times:

The AS flights are also running about 3 hours before HA's flights running both ways on the route. Besides the wide body/narrow body preference for some travelers, the PDX departure and arrival times may also play into preference of convenience here as well so it should be interesting to see how it fares one way or the other.

AS flights:
Portland-Honolulu 7:25 am - 10:25 am
Honolulu-Portland 11:25 am - 8:10 pm

HA flights:
Portland-Honolulu 10:15am - 1:10pm
Honolulu-Portland 2:40pm - 11:10pm



Fast cars and 'Jet A' - such a sweet smell!
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8170 times:

Quoting Airport (Reply 18):
I would be willing to bet monopoly money that AS could make LAX-SJO/BZE/GUA/MTY a profitable venture, if they ever decided to pursue it. Why not? The rumors have been around since AS bought 737s that they'd eventually hit Central America...

For sure LAX-SJO/GUA would work....LAX-BZE too....CO makes some serious money sending folks LAX-IAH-BZE. THey key would be to tap the VFR...which would require a CTO in the respective countries.



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinesurfdog75 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8028 times:

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 9):
hmmm Delta cuts, AS, who Delta codeshares with, adds it back.......whats that called again?
Have fun in 2012 Mr. Anderson.

Pick me ! Pick me! ...........Outsourcing? This codeshare really seems to be a great deal for employees of DL .  


User currently offlineSVO767 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7680 times:

I believe its SAN-HNL that Delta is dropping. If I am not mistaken, it will only be operating for 2 months.

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7660 times:

Quoting Pohakuloa (Reply 19):
The AS flights are also running about 3 hours before HA's flights running both ways on the route.

One thing I notice about the timing of the new HNL service is that any connecting possibilities thru PDX are pretty much non-existent, right? As a hub (of some level), I would think AS/QX would be interested in getting a few non-Portland travelers on the flight as well; on-line connections are one thing that HA certainly can't offer.

I guess SEA will be the connecting point for Island service.

bb


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7639 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 7):
Probably only a matter of time before AS starts something from SAN.

Could that cause problems from an operations standpoint? We are talking about a 737 loaded for a 2200NM flight westbound with ETOPS and the terrain clearance issues in SAN. Furthermore, it would probably have to be a 73H since I think that all AS flights to Hawaii are on -800s and the -700s might not even be ETOPS certified.

I don't have numbers, but I would think that hot days could saddle AS with a restriction on SAN-Hawaii flights.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
25 Bluewave 707 : Would love to see AS service between SNA & HNL to compete against CO. Maybe AS will add another SEA-HNL flight.
26 hatbutton : Well I'm seeing SEA-LIH is 2346 NM and SAN-HNL is 2271NM. LIH's runway is 6,500 feet and surely they have hot conditions in the summer. I'd think SAN
27 wedgetail737 : I don't really know about PDX without looking at a schedule, but SEA does have some early morning arrivals from outlying, regional destinations that
28 nwaesc : It's both.
29 Airport : If DL drops SEA-HNL it wouldn't surprise me if AS adds a third daily SEA-HNL, and maybe a third daily SEA-OGG. Cheers! Anthony/Airport
30 wedgetail737 : I can see that happening. I'm still holding out for a SEA-ITO route to open up...probably not too likely though.
31 Airport : Same here. I actually don't see why it couldn't happen. Sure it doesn't capture much of the tourist traffic, but that doesn't mean there wouldn't be
32 Post contains images CGKings317 : As the PDX-HNL flight departs at 7:25 AM, the list below represent the QX flights that can provide connective feed via PDX from KVS (Sabre) using 22
33 BMI727 : It isn't the runway, it is the terrain that causes problems at SAN.
34 hatbutton : I know, but with almost 3,000 extra feet of runway than what is in LIH, would the terrain still be an issue? This is assuming too that you're taking
35 BMI727 : Well, that is what I'm trying to find out. To my knowledge, nobody has flown 737-800s from San Diego to Hawaii. I thought that Aloha did it with -700
36 FLYAWA : Random geography: PDX is closer to HNL than SAN, 2254 vs 2269nm.
37 toobz : Will we see a DL flight number on this flight?
38 deltal1011man : Well look for more of it, DL and AS will be getting even closer. Maybe one day they will become Delta.... likely DL has alot of codes on AS's PDX fli
39 wedgetail737 : Maybe AS will offer it on their PDX-HNL flights...but they offered double miles between PDX-OGG.
40 bigGSFO : Oh god I hope not. Good move by AS.
41 Airport : Ugh...if by one day you mean 20+ years? Don't worry, they're not going to anytime in the near future. No matter how many times its said in this board
42 wedgetail737 : I think you would only find AS merging with anyone is if AAG was losing $100M daily and their fleet was going to shambles...hmm like NW. Otherwise, as
43 Post contains images nwaesc : All well and good, but aviation boards would be MUCH quieter w/o M&A rumors.
44 HNL-Jack : The replacement of DL by AS out of SEA would be great news. The DL aircraft we see in Hawaii don't look like they've had their interiors refurbished
45 surfandsnow : True, but DL is also dropping the longstanding PDX-HNL route that it inherited from NW. It sounds like operational issues (738s out of SAN to Hawaii
46 EA CO AS : I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
47 alexinwa : Isn't HA adding (again) SAN-OGG? And SFO-OGG? Maybe AS doesn't see the need to fight HA in the SAN-Hawaii market?
48 Airnerd : NW and then Delta ran the eastbound flight as a red-eye. This is a much better schedule for O&D leisure pax from PDX. We now get two good daytime
49 Post contains images SANFan : HA, because they have a couple of extra 767s (due to the arrival of the new Airbi), is adding SAN-OGG and OAK-OGG for about 2 and 3 months (respectiv
50 Post contains images deltal1011man : Here is something your still not getting. DL buying AS wouldn't do anything for AS, your right. DL buying NW did nothing for NW, DL buying WA did not
51 wedgetail737 : AS actually had a codeshare agreement with the now mostly defunk Mokulele Airlines. Who knows who AS will go with now... I'm hoping Island Air. Are y
52 Post contains images deltal1011man : No one has offered anything. "people close" say both US and CO are talking to UAL. CO merging with UA is the same as UA merging with CO.
53 wedgetail737 : Not necessarily. What will be the surviving name? Which management team will be the surviving team? Those two things make a huge difference in the ou
54 deltal1011man : not really. the airline is called ABCDEFG and they get and all new management team....... now? point is, who is or isn't making money means nothing h
55 EA CO AS : Yes, however when you're realizing substantially all the benefits of a merger (via the deep partnership between AS and DL) without the actual COST of
56 Post contains images deltal1011man : sure to a point. Codeshares only go so far. DL codeshared with NW and CO for years, but they came to the point that it would be better to merge with
57 SANFan : I can say that Boeing did a presentation back in summer of 2007 to the SDCRAA about their family of jets and how they can -- and will, since the 787
58 hnl-jack : Apply the DL cost structure to AS and you get nothing but red ink!
59 Post contains images commavia : It wouldn't help Delta, it would hurt Delta enormously. It would not only cost Delta a huge sum in cash to actually acquire Alaska outright, but it w
60 wedgetail737 : The death of Alaska Airlines would be detrimental to the economies of the State of Alaska and the Pacific Northwest because DL would certainly consol
61 EA CO AS : And that was only because DL realized a DL/NW combination brought economies of scale AND critical mass - neither of which would be enhanced with a bu
62 Tomassjc : Yes, the integration of the DL/NW Customer Service culture would NOT work well at AS.
63 Post contains images SANFan : As this subject is still heavy on my mind -- and while I wait for another possible route announcement from AS -- I looked over this thread again and h
64 Tomassjc : 2nd Daily SEA-OGG starts June 10th. It was announced around the time of the SJC-Hawaii inaugural last month.
65 UALORD : It seems like they are getting pretty strong in OGG with all the routes they have and I was suprised to see when I was there in the terminal they star
66 Post contains images EA CO AS : Last I'd heard AS was getting the rest of the -800 fleet ETOPS certified and had (IIRC) 36 ETOPS aircraft, including the Starliner '75, the first AS
67 SANFan : I sure missed that. Maybe the announcement was actually part of the SJC PR and not a separate one; I'll check it out. Thanks for the info Tom'. I thi
68 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : Sorry i am a little confused by this whole discussion of AS replacing DL. Is DL actually dropping SEA/PDX-HNL?
69 surfandsnow : DL will be dropping the PDX-HNL route that it inherited from NW. SEA-HNL will stay (for now) albeit in diminished capacity compared to what NW used t
70 PDXBJV : DL is dropping PDX-HNL, don't think they're dropping anything from their beloved SEA at the moment.
71 Bluewave 707 : AQ's SAN service was to OGG or KOA, but not HNL. I agree, an AS HNL- SAN run would only happen if DL drops the route. I think only the 737-890s are ET
72 EA CO AS : Not all of the -800s are ETOPS, but about 2/3 are. None of the -900s are and neither are the -700s.
73 surfandsnow : KOA has not been served since then. HA has sporadically served OGG (it is coming back this summer, but only "seasonally" from mid June to late August
74 BMI727 : The only reason to do that would be if they needed the -700 performance to make the flight. One or two routes, especially to Hawaii, certainly doesn'
75 seabosdca : Not a chance. CO's -900ERs are right at the limit. There are plenty of very profitable uses for AS's -900s that don't raise those operational issues
76 Airnerd : I think PDX-KOA could work, probably not with HA's 763's, but with the smaller 738's being used by AS. Maybe just 4x or 5x / week to start? The Big Is
77 SANFan : AQ served all 4 major islands of Hawaii during their 3+ year run of service at Lindbergh Field. Maui was served consistantly and daily the whole time
78 EA CO AS : AS isn't going out of their way to pick fights with HA - they're implementing service to Hawaii only where they have a hub/focus city, or in places t
79 SANFan : Exactly. As you said, at their hubs, of course, they are ending up competing head-to-head with HA while in the other markets, so far, AS is staying w
80 Post contains images Airport : I actually take back what I said earlier. I am almost certain that if AS starts SAN-Hawaii, it will be SAN-OGG and possibly SAN-KOA a la what they do
81 Tomassjc : That will improve ever so slightly with the summer schedule, by tagging on one more leg before/after the daytime Hawaii turns. The LIH-SEA, OGG/HNL-A
82 wedgetail737 : How do you figure? 1 r/t = fewer cycles on the airplane, which equates to longer life for the airplane.
83 wedgetail737 : Hey! Is it possible that AS could start some "odd" routes like BLI-LAS on peak days of the week. Why not BOI-GEG-HNL or BOI-GEG-OGG on Thurs, Fri, Sun
84 SANFan : D, yes, it's easier on the longevity of the airplane but by utilization, I was talking about the amount of money the carrier can bring in each day wi
85 hnl-jack : I agree with you, a similar strategy to the initial AS expansion into the lower 48 when CO pulled out of the secondary airports in California and AS
86 Post contains images EA CO AS : Call 'em the "Face on the Tail" twins.
87 seabosdca : He's saying it's tough on aircraft utilization (i.e. the number of hours/day the aircraft is in the air), not the aircraft itself. It takes some crea
88 wedgetail737 : Good points. I was only looking at it from a technical POV. My HNL-SEA aircraft did continue to ANC...after arriving at SEA around 9:30PM.
89 BayAreaBlue : Actually there are still redeyes that fly today: AS16 SEA-MIA AS108/112/114 ANC-SEA AS871 HNL-ANC In the summer schedule, the following are redeyes:
90 SANFan : There is no question that AS does manage to get an additional trip or 2 out of some of their Hawaii a/c but overall, for 12-14 hours of the day, that
91 Tomassjc : Don't forget AS143 PDX-ANC Usually tacks on to the PDX-ORD-PDX though All the late night SEA-ANC could also be redeyes.[Edited 2010-04-21 10:34:27]
92 hatbutton : Well considering most airlines utilization rate is somewhere between 10-12 hours I think a Hawaii turn is sufficient to fall in that range. So I don'
93 Airnerd : That was NW's and DL's approach to the HNL-PDX route (with the redeye return), and a primary reason I never considered using it - even though fares w
94 SANFan : That's right. NW/DL essentially uses "free" a/c for their Hawaii runs -- planes that would otherwise be overnighting on the west coast. SEA, PDX, SFO
95 Post contains images ASFlyer : Check tomorrow morning after the earnings call...
96 SANFan : Gulp! I don't think I take all this; I just got finished posting over on the new thread about AS seeking authority for SAN-PVR service starting in No
97 Post contains images Tomassjc : Told you to keep checking back SANFan ......
98 Post contains images SANFan : Seriously, Tom, I've kept it open and have been refreshing the Press Release page at least once an hour since Monday morning (except when I've gotten
99 wedgetail737 : I have a shortlist of where I would like to see AS fly including: SEA-ITO SAN-Hawaii SMF-KOA PDX-KOA/LIH SEA-DTW SEA/PDX-SLC SEA-HNL-South Pacific SEA
100 Post contains images Airport : I am in complete agreement with you on every single one of those routes. I don't think they're all that unrealistic. Some, like HNL-South Pacific, I
101 Post contains links ASFlyer : SAN Fan - take a look at www.alaskaair.com for sometime late in Dec. SAN-OGG. Enjoy!!!
102 Post contains images Airport : As is PDX-KOA. And the plot thickens...
103 wedgetail737 : Yes Indeed!!! You'd better use it!! Is this one result of AS investing in changing their current 737-800's to ETOPS as well as taking delivery of ETO
104 ASFlyer : That change took effect a couple months ago.
105 wedgetail737 : Damn! Why don't you give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it!
106 ASFlyer : :D sorry to be the Debbie Downer in the bunch. LOL.
107 Tomassjc : As is QX SJC-LAX 4x daily starting August.
108 Post contains images surfandsnow : LOL, two of your wishes just came true . I think PDX-LIH and SMF-KOA will become a reality provided the new flights do well and fuel prices don't jum
109 Airnerd : So sweet. I'm looking at booking today.
110 Post contains images SANFan : Speaking of more Hawaii possiblities, I wouldn't be too surprised to see more from SAN added sooner rather than later and a split LIH/KOA would be my
111 flyPBA : don't forget SBP (San Luis Obispo)
112 Post contains images SANFan : Ahhh, we are hearing from the Cal Poly crowd? Sure, for what good it does, it's now on MY list! bb
113 Tomassjc : I heard QX was looking SBP and MRY to SEA not too long ago....
114 Post contains images alexinwa : Guess I was wrong about AS and SAN-OGG......................Oh well it will happen again. What is to beome of the two HA 763's if those flights are o
115 hatbutton : Wasn't MRY trying to put together a revenue guarantee to get QX service to SEA and PDX?
116 SANFan : That very question was being discussed this afternoon on another board and I would love to hear the correct answer from one of the HA experts -- if t
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