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How Will The AA/B6 Alliance Help AA?  
User currently offlineAAdvantageous From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 28 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

What does AA stand to gain from this agreement, besides additional slots at JFK, and more feed into their international routes?

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User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

That about sums it up


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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8370 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4579 times:
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Hey, Jetblue joins the busom of AA it benefits AA by offereing service, like to PBI & FLL, that AA would not schedule on its own from JFK. Having an existing relationship helps if AA ever buys JB, especially its valuable new JFK terminal. AT some point Jetblue will appeal to a larger airline, what JB has done is wonerful in its 10 year history but they have taken the concept about as far as they can. New competitors are on its heals, Virgin America, with newer gimmicks.

User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4542 times:
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Doesn't LH have some power in B6, I saw a flight attendn on my flight with a B6-LH pin on, would LH really allow B6 be in an alliance with AA.


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 1):
That about sums it up
Quoting AAdvantageous (Thread starter):
What does AA stand to gain from this agreement, besides additional slots at JFK, and more feed into their international routes?

"The proposed slot exchange and interline deal between American Airlines and JetBlue is expected to add at least USD14 million to JetBlue and USD55 million to American’s operating income,” according to AirlineFinancials.com’s Robert Herbst. He added that the income increases could “easily double” as American connects 12 international routes with 18 JetBlue services."

http://www.centreforaviation.com/new...ed-to-generate-usd69-million/page1



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5107 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 3):


Doesn't LH have some power in B6, I saw a flight attendn on my flight with a B6-LH pin on, would LH really allow B6 be in an alliance with AA.

It apparently already has, or there would have been no announcement. LH doesn't have the voting power at B6 to thwart an AA alliance.



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User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

I hesitate to call an interlining agreement as an alliance.

User currently offlineBlueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

they never worked out the deals yet did they?


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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5235 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3900 times:

Remember that AA used to have a fair amount of service to New England via BEX (which was merged into Eagle) out of BOS. B6 basically drove AA/Eagle out of New England. So, by interlining, AA can now offer connecting service via JFK or BOS to New England.

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32777 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
Hey, Jetblue joins the busom of AA it benefits AA by offereing service, like to PBI & FLL, that AA would not schedule on its own from JFK.

AA is launching twice daily service between Ft. Lauderdale and JFK on November 2nd.



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8370 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3660 times:
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Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
Doesn't LH have some power in B6, I saw a flight attendn on my flight with a B6-LH pin on, would LH really allow B6 be in an alliance with AA.

Lufthansa owns 19 % of JB and has a few( 2 or 3) board seats, they do not control the airline. So if JB's Board wants an allaince with AA JB will do one.


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3469 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

Guys, it's not an alliance or a codeshare. It's an interline agreement!

Legacy carriers have lots of interline agreements with lots of other airlines. It doesn't mean much.

LH wants a profitable B6. If this makes them more profitable, so be it.


User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3443 times:

Quoting tharanga (Reply 6):
I hesitate to call an interlining agreement as an alliance.

I believe that the agreement was merely the precursor for what is to come!

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User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

os of today,(april 14th) Worldspan still does not show AA/B6 with an interline ticketing agreement. I believe this table is updated weekly!

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32777 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 11):
Guys, it's not an alliance or a codeshare. It's an interline agreement!

It is an alliance. The interline agreement is only the immediate step. More is coming.



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User currently offlineAAEXP From Brazil, joined Jul 2005, 424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 14):
More is coming.

        


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3787 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
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This is the first step in B6 joining One World !

But yes I know even if they start the process now, it won't happen before Spring of 2012. I would love this.
Sure it's only an interline agreement, but it might yield codeshare, which might yield alliance.
The only reason I see B6 would not join an alliance is, B6 is a LCC which only offers Y Class service. Either they join One World or they don't join an alliance at all. Will B6 ever consider configuring its A320 aircraft with a F Class cabin?

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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3469 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

"It is an alliance. The interline agreement is only the immediate step. More is coming."

Really? Elaborate please.

Personally, I think you are engaged in wishful thinking and that is putting it politely.

The only thing I think you will see more of is interline agreements between B6 and other carriers at JFK. That was what the Sabre thing was all about.


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32777 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3165 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 17):

Really? Elaborate please.

Personally, I think you are engaged in wishful thinking and that is putting it politely.

It is certainly not wishful thinking. And if you would bother watching/listening to the original press conference, you would certainly see how this is just step one.



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User currently offlinesflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 9):

AA is launching twice daily service between Ft. Lauderdale and JFK on November 2nd.

I always felt that this one was long overdue. It only makes sense to connect AAs European and capture some of the O&D in one of the US's biggest O&D markets. There are TONS of elite AA FF's that live in Broward and SOuthern Palm Beach county and fly to NY that don't mind forgoing TVs for a 2.5 hour flight but want to keep their FF miles active without having to schlep to MIA. With DL and NK as the only other competitors it's a nice niche. And, BTW, how much of a competitor is NK really these days. Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock....

One other thing, this also might strategically block VX from connecting two stations. AA is killing a few birds with one stone with this service.

BTW, anyone remember when AA stopped FLL-LGA? My memory seems to think it's quite a few years now.


User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

It will certainly help employees. AA is finally signing off on a ZED agreement with Jetblue that will allow each airline's employees to travel stand-by at greatly reduced fares on the other carrier. AA has refused to do so in the past, so this is certainly a bonus for employees.


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