GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 794 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 55430 times:
"Will CDG reopen in the AM or will it be closed for a while. Can't find it.
I'm DL188 from PIT-CDG tonight and wondering since DL did not cancel it yet."
The NOTAM says closed to 1000 local on Fri.
LFFA-A2150/10
A) LFPG PARIS CHARLES DE GAULLE
B) 2010 Apr 15 21:00 C) 2010 Apr 16 08:00
E) DUE TO VOLCANIC ACTIVITY IN VOLCANO EYJAFJALLAJOKULL N06338W01937
PARIS CHARLES DE GAULLE AD CLOSED.
e195 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 142 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 55278 times:
Nicest thing in the UK (despite being on the disruption desk in T5 today), is that there has been something else on the news other than the ELECTION COVERAGE!!
B747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 15840 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 55269 times:
Quoting GCT64 (Reply 1): The NOTAM says closed to 1000 local on Fri.
Now that several airports will be hit by this tomorrow morning also which is when the North American flights are about to land in Europe will they even take off from North America today?
ScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4590 posts, RR: 63 Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 54921 times:
From the other thread:
Quoting Richard28 (Reply 112): Looks like UAL 924 service SEA-LHR has also diverted to Paris, in fact it is already over the city and about to land.... which is strange, because it looks like it could have made it easily into LHR before midday.
Not completely relevant, but UA doesn't fly SEA-LHR. UA 924 is SAN-IAD-LHR.
Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 121): Looks as though BA 48 is the last TATL flight arriving into LHR
Friends of mine were on that flight and they were told they were the last flight in. We are supposed to meet them in Iceland in two weeks for a curling tournament. Wonder how that's going to turn out? At the moment we could get there just fine (from SEA) but they can't get there from Europe!
We're lying in the gutter but we're looking at the stars
fca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1650 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 54975 times:
BBC Radio 1 has Callers: Liverpool Airport people, London people, East midlands, Singing "woooo we're halfway there, take my hand and we'll make it I swear" by bon jovi
Bralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 54684 times:
OK, it's official now.
Belgian Airspace will remain closed until FRI 16APR2010 1800CET
Earlier BRU and SN had allready announced that they wouldn't fly before that time but now the complete Belgian Airspace will be closed until that time and maybe longer.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 8682 posts, RR: 50 Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 54443 times:
The big question is how long this is going to drag on. This volcano has apparently once had a very lengthy eruption:
"The previous eruption of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, whose ash cloud has shut down airspace over Britain, lasted for more than a year, according to an expert. The Eyjafjallajökull volcano erupted for the first time in 200 years on March 20, in a dramatic display that sent fountains of lava spewing into the air.
All flights to British airspace have been suspended after ash caused by the eruption forced air traffic controllers to restrict take-offs and landings.
Professor Bill McGuire, of the Aon Benfield Hazard Research Centre at University College London, said the previous eruption, in December 1821, lasted until January 1823.
He said air travel could be curtailed repeatedly if the current eruption lasted the same amount of time.
However, he added: "There is no way of knowing for certain how long this eruption will last based on previous events. The level of disruption would also depend on how much gas and ash is produced."
(Taken from a post over at PPrune.)
There was a better way to fly. It was called Concorde.
loj From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 9 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 54168 times:
It has been said in the news that you can the ash on parked cars in some parts of Norway. Since it is mostly clear wheather here it´s said to be a spectacular sunset this evening with the setting sun´s reflection in the ashcloud.
BrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 888 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 53900 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 14): The previous eruption of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, whose ash cloud has shut down airspace over Britain, lasted for more than a year, according to an expert.
The perfect moment for LHR to finally clean up their mess for once and always, and construct the third runway.
Never ask somebody if he's a pilot. If he is, he will let you know soon enough!
Giancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 971 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 53756 times:
Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 10): Who will pay the bill for this? Insurance companies, customers, airlines, or all of them?
According to bbc news earlier the insurance companies classify this as an act of god and wont be paying out.
Is it likely bigger aircraft subbed into some places to cope with the backlogs when they re-open? If so I'm going upto the crash gate at Luton tommorow!
The weather will be better tomorrow and on Saturday. So you will be able to see it then.
25 FLYAWA: US Airways: Volcanic Ash Over London Causes Cancellations A volcanic eruption in Iceland sent a plume of volcanic ash into the air yesterday – that
26 talaier: French airspace is closed, but only in the North of the country (ie. Paris, Normandy and Lille). http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/articl...d_1333792_324
27 oly720man: Hoping it won't die again, but http://www.radar-virtuel.com/ is alive again, and renamed slightly.
28 JohnKrist: Very interresting evening, and one I haven't seen since I was kid. The sky is void of contrails! And ash, well there is a thin layer of dust on everyt
29 BrouAviation: I hope you are kidding me. According to many believers, EVERYTHING is an act of God. So what's the point of insurance companies then?
30 SEPilot: If this continues for long (which is highly likely) it will cause massive financial disruption to the entire industry, regardless of who pays. Airlin
32 FlySSC: Why not simply an "Act of Mother Nature" ?
33 MeridianBUF: So even if UK airspace opens, there will be no flights UK-southbound right? Since the aircraft will have go through the ash cloud? UK-Switzerland / I
34 fca767: That's what I thought, Insurance companies seem happy to take your money but only if it means that you don't get it back.
35 YULWinterSkies: It usually is the kind of ash that is so fine-grained that ash does not immediately fall but stays stuck in the upper troposphere together with the p
36 BrouAviation: Same here. And suffering from astma, I can feel it too. Windows which have been washed just two days ago, look little dirty and dusty. The sunset jus
37 PanHAM: I"Act of God" is a technical term, Force Majeure in French and Hoehere Gewalt in German. Insurance policies usually carrry risk clauses that exclude
38 trystero: In that case Richard Dawkins will ask for His arrest.
39 Revelation: First the earthquakes, then the volcano that closes large swaths of European airspace, and now we have to cope with delayed curling tournaments too?
40 PlymSpotter: Looks like I'm going to have fun trying to get home tomorrow. Supposed to be flying LED-KIV-CDG-LGW on Air Moldova, but I guess the latter parts of th
41 travelin man: Wow, Air Moldova? I hope you will be doing a trip report! (if you actually are able to go)....
42 timboflier215: That really, really made me laugh. Is this all going to cost BA many more millions? Added to the recent strike action, it's not been a great couple o
43 LTU932: There are conflicting reports about flights out of HAM. At one moment, flights are suspended, the next moment the airport is open. If you check HAM's
44 MadameConcorde: The International Space Station does not have orbits that takes them over Iceland so we will not get pictures coming from the astronauts. I hope there
45 PlymSpotter: Yeah, so I should at least get as far as KIV tomorrow. Not advertised anywhere, but they had the cheapest o/w back from LED. Trup report will come, b
46 blueflyer: Notes from the Eurocontrol conference. Volcano still active and spewing out ashes, Iceland reports increased activity. Current ash cloud over the UK d
47 ScarletHarlot: THE HORROR!!!!!!!! Actually it's EVEN WORSE than that - the tournament will go on without us!!!! You should all cry for me. Seriously, I know, it's n
48 sbworcs: I have friends due to fly to Goa via Mumbai with Jet on Saturday from LHR - anyone any ideas of their chances??
49 B747forever: No one really knows when things will improve and go back to normal.
51 readytotaxi: I would take along a folding chair and a puzzle book, just in case.
52 blueflyer: Decent. Morning flight delayed by 7 hours, evening flight still operating on schedule.
53 oa260: Sky News now advising no flights in the UK tomorrow
54 lukeyboy95: Some of the EDI passengers have been giving their feelings on todays going ons; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34mHZgP9vkc&feature=player_embedded
55 timboflier215: I think private a/c can still fly, but 'at their own risk' as it were.
56 B747forever: All day? Cant imagine how tough it will be to get everything back to normal again.
57 blueflyer: Technically, all IFR plans are rejected, but if you want to go VFR, have at it. Sky News is jumping the gun. Next update at 1830Z, and extensions are
58 bapilot2b: Skimming the clouds at 2250ft, now that must be fun in empty skies! Anyhow if this is an 'Act Of God' I suggest that anybody looking for somewhere to
59 GCT64: In the UK, if an aircraft is re-registered it keeps the same ModeS code. So, it is the same aircraft but the database they are using to match ModeS c
60 MadameConcorde: Oh him. He will always do everything different from everybody else. He is probably on his way to Shanghai for this coming weekend's Grand Prix.
61 sankaps: SkyNews said that is what the MET office is suggesting; as you point out, it is not a yet confirmed decision.
62 BrouAviation: Currently 500 ft above London area, and descending, so about to land I presume.
63 GDB: Erie and slightly bizarre, I've lived quite or very near LHR most of my life, worked there for all my working life. And now here we are, with UK skies
64 22886: seems not, its just landed at Biggin Hill
65 B747forever: If this ban goes on for another few days I wonder if the skies in Europe will be clearer as in the aftermath of 9/11 in the US.
66 morvious: Its a strange view out of the windows. A normal day we see a lot of US - Germany - US flights flying over but empty skies all over. Hope for all affec
67 Phen: I was just thinking that earlier, scientists will surely be taking this opportunity to see what (if any) temperature changes take place because of th
68 kubus: DL188 is now canceled, which means tomorrow's 189 is canceled as well. All of the following destinations are now canceled: * AMS – Amsterdam * BRU â
69 Revelation: I hope you do get the chance to go. And if you're lucky, it'll be after the curling tournament is over!
70 oa260: Special Sky News program tonight ''Britain Grounded''. More updates will be given then. The British Met office have issued a warning for tomorrow .[E
72 PhB95: Live coverage from home: My house is more or less below the end of the CDG tracks at 15 miles distance, and with wind coming from the airport i use to
73 MadameConcorde: Singapore Airlines European flights disruptions link http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/Util...til/BreakingNewsPopup.jsp?msgId=11
74 Larshjort: Naviair is reporting danish airspace closed to all kinds of flying VFR+IFR until friday 12:00 local, next update is friday at 9:00 /Lars
75 BrouAviation: The colors are wonderful anyways. Shot taken from my window:
76 FlySSC: Flights from CDG to south Europe and North Africa still operate normally. AF126 CDG-PEK at 7:00PM departed at 7:34PM AF008 CDG-JFK at 7:10PM departed
77 LU9092: That's beautiful. MadameConcorde asked about pictures from space: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/ash-plume-from-space/[Edited 2010-04-15 1
78 european742: I just came home from work, we all had to come in even though there was nothing happening, they wanted 2 people sat on check-in, what the hell for? Mi
79 skyman: Hamburg and Bremen are closed untill Friday morning at the moment.
80 oa260: Youd love her to get in a aircraft and fly through an ash cloud , might teach her something when the engine cuts out
81 Jana: Wonderfull. I saw it aswell and living under the Continent - UK/USA (east-west) routes it's very empty in the sky this evening. No contrails at all c
82 Norlander: It's quite visible here in FAE. A fine cover/film of dust is on everything...
83 B747forever: Now that the ban will continue all morning tomorrow will the European bound flights from North America even take off?
84 MadameConcorde: A spectacular sunset, yes. Thanks for posting the picture. Thank you for this also. It is so strange to see an empty sky over the UK and Northern Eur
85 BuyantUkhaa: The forecasts seem to suggest that the ash cloud will reach Poland somewhere tomorrow very early morning, so that is a distinct possibility, dependin
87 groundopsLEY: When the squawk is 7000 the flight is a VFR flight. So it is for the captains own risk to fly there. Gtz, Jan
88 MadameConcorde: The thing is definitely moving. I wonder where they are off to. This is the only a/c visible in UK air space Flight Number : HGR857A Company : Hangar
89 BuyantUkhaa: Something interesting on Wikipedia (yes, grain of salt and all that): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull So the worst may yet be to co
90 GCT64: He's on a London Information code, from radarvirtuel, it is crossing the channel, probably in the VFR routes. My guess: they are trying to reach cont
91 bapilot2b: Seems that G-CHAI has been turned back from European airspace and I guess rightfully so as I doubt its on an 'Emergency' mission if it is still owned
92 MadameConcorde: Probably Shanghai bound for the Grand Prix this coming weekend. They can make refueling stops on the way. It will be intresting to follow where they
93 morvious: it was a very sweet sight but inmagine how it looked if there were some planes flying through it. Dutch news quoting that it could last for 48 hours.
94 md94: I am set to go to ORD-AMS on Saturday, I am guessing it may not go the way this is looking.
95 MadameConcorde: Yes I noticed. I wonder why it turned back. Did they receive orders to land?
96 oa260: Yes Sky News report Euro Control have advised that also.
97 CPH-R: Whereever they were off to, it looks like they gave up. They've done a 180 and appears to be heading back to London. I wonder if Lille or Brussels to
98 readytotaxi: http://www.nats.co.uk/ Due to heavy traffic the UK nats site is now off line. >
99 MadameConcorde: Well we must thank Briatore's flight for giving us indications on the situation up there as this is the only machine that's up in the air at this tim
100 KDTWflyer: Here is a link to a high-resolution MODIS satellite image of the area ... http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/r...10105113500-2010105114000.250m.jpg
101 GCT64: Belgocontrol says "VFR operators should exercise extreme caution and must assure themselves that their intended flight can be conducted in a safe man
102 bapilot2b: Seems so, looks like its going back to Biggen Hill.
103 jamies80085: Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Thurs April 15, 20:20 The cloud of volcanic ash continues to cover much of the UK. Following a review of the
104 oa260: NATS say nothing will take off or land until at least 13:00 , ban extended and to be reviewed. Euro Control advise around 50% of trans atlantic flight
105 ManuCH: Hmm... isn't that a bit slow? Did they mount the transponder on a car to make fun of us?
106 Ant72LBA: Further to the comments made earlier about insurance I thought I'd check to see if cover would be available for this event (seem as I work in the indu
107 MadameConcorde: Yes, very slow I have set the map to see the flight in much detail. Thiis is really weird how they are doing this flight.
108 B747forever: Then a lot of the European carriers aircraft will be stuck in North America
109 oa260: I have seen many a travel insurance policy and there are often clauses of ''acts of god'' or the industry term Im sure your aware of ''force majeure'
110 MadameConcorde: No longer on the map. Looks like they have landed.
111 B747forever: That was about time. Really weird that they decided to fly in the first place.
112 blueflyer: Not much from the last Eurocontrol conference that hasn't been said already, so I won't repeat it. Next conference at 0030Z, extra conference at 0430Z
113 CARST: But why couldn't they fly VFR to South France or South Germany, stop for fuel and continue IFR from there on?
114 MadameConcorde: Knowing Briatore, he probably thought he could get away with whatever nobody else would be allowed to do. For Paris I see that both CDG and ORY are o
115 boacboac: All United Airlines /Delta/US Airways flights in and out of the UK are cancelled on Friday, that decision was made at 15:00 UK time today
116 FlyingColours: Finally landed about 10-15 minutes ago, they overflew Biggin Hill at 2000ft (+/- few feet), made a turn to the south, descended, appeared to line up
117 B747forever: Yes, but only until 23:00 LT, then they will also close down.
118 oa260: If anyone wants to watch the special report live copy the link in this media player ::
119 blueflyer: Because airports en-route have been closing one after the other.
120 theginge: Theoretically they could but I don't think an airline would fly a flight with passengers VFR for any length of time, just too much of a risk if other
121 MadameConcorde: Nice and Marseille air ports are still operating but they generally shut down by midnight. Nice is right in town.
122 TIA: AA116 tonight that gets to LHR at 11:35am has been canceled. Luckily for me I can afford to spend a few extra days in NY, as the first available fligh
123 B747forever: But reality will be different. A lot of those flights will either be cancelled or delayed.
124 Ant72LBA: These days Insurers have to be a touch more specific about what they will and won't pay for than using confusing and general phrases like "act of god
125 fca767: Here's a Picture I took about 2 hours ago at Manchester Just uploading a video to youtube
126 blueflyer: LH flights from Southern and Western US all canceled (+PHL). They will RON at their station and a decision will be made tomorrow as to whether they'll
127 MadameConcorde: Airlines with stranded passengers must be paying fortunes setting them all up in hotels.
128 Airthanet: Just witnessed a stunning dusty sunset over MSE. Very colourful!
129 bapilot2b: I would love to know which airline is putting passengers up. My fiance is stranded in DUB and paying for a hotel out of her own coin (flying EI and N
130 FlyingColours: As someone who (unfortunatly) at one point held an insurance license (a long story) we tended to use the phrase Force Majueure to mean act of god (or
131 bwest: There are currently a large number of pax originating from Bangladesh stuck in BRU. Their plane was originally on its way to LHR but got diverted. See
132 fca767: Thanks Ah Just uploading another 2 pics with T2 and a Guy taping up and covering up the Thomson before it goes to bed it seems
133 LHPDX: I wonder if my family will be able to fly out of Munich( United) tomorrow connecting thru Chicago............
134 Pellegrine: I've never seen the eastbound North Atlantic Tracks this low and few: http://www.turbulenceforecast.com/atlantic_eastbound_tracks.php
135 Hausauflennon: Caribbean bound services (and the returns) are also being affected. I can only speak for the situation here @ BGI...with British Airways' BA 2154 retu
136 boacboac: I dont think any United flights will be flying in or out of Europe tomorrow
138 oa260: I just checked the wording of my annual multi trip which is with a major UK Insurer and its just as I thought Indeed back on topic :: Yes I heard tha
139 fca767: Here's what I filmed about 3 hours ago, the Chicago morning flight still here, but the other american flights seemed to have left. http://www.youtube.
140 PW100: Shot from my kitchen window [handheld!], just an hour ago . . . : PW100
142 vlad1971: All UA/US/CO flights to Northern Europe had been cancelled . Affects England , Netherlands, North of France , Belgium and now Germany also suspending
144 fca767: Wow! Looks nice indeed Looks like one of those Movie backdrops from Los angeles
145 LHR380: Well, that was a certainly an interesting shift at work. I got in at 1400 and helped out with the last of the passengers coming in from Delhi I think
146 oa260: Yep ORD ATL BOS JFK EWR all cancelled all airlines.
147 Bralo20: SN (Brussels Airlines) have taken care of their customers, they provided free rebooking, refunds, hotels, transportation from and to the hotels... Pr
148 LHRSOLDIER: JJ8084 - GRU-LHR tonight cancelled. Last night JJ8084 diverted to MAD and is expected tomorrow late afternoon in LHR.
149 flymia: I am planning on going into Munichfrom BCN tomarrow leaving at 10:35 arriving around 12:00pm. Munich is pretty south anyone see any problems with this
151 DunaA320: My friend is stuck in LAX tonight. She was due to leave on tonights BA268 after 4 months travelling, BA are putting her and her friend up in a hotel t
152 alasdair1982: North Atlantic routes to Glasgow and Edinburgh may open up again after 0100BST according to the BBC. So, expect an influx of transatlantic flights for
153 MadameConcorde: Paris ORY and CDG have closed. No more planes on the radar http://www.radar-virtuel.com/ only a couple of derelict aircrafts maybe air force
154 emalad: I am watching Radar Virtuel and have seen Paris close down within the last few minutes. ITV news has just said that nothing will fly in the UK and mos
155 JL418: Did anybody post this? It has been made by Norway's Met Office. That's the expected expansion of the ashes on Europe by April 17th. Pretty scary, I ha
156 Ant72LBA: one suggestion then - change your policy! I can assure you that the policy I worked with (large Swiss city) didn't include this and the underwriters
157 FlyingColours: Good stuff, it is way too quiet and lifless on the apron, I've never seen it like that (even in the small hours). Yup as long as it's VFR. Though tha
158 ANstar: So where did these pax stay during their visit? Surely if outbound flights are cancelled, the inbound flights tomorrow etc would also be cancelled???
159 MadameConcorde: The ash cloud is huge. This is a situation never seen before not ever in my life time and I am 58. Looks like if we were in a war zone and all the civ
160 morvious: Schiphol organised 1600 beds for stranded passengers asswel. Only THE people who checked in before 19:00 local got "lucky" though. All hotels around
161 fca767: Tell me about it I wanted to go to see if this was what it's like, and way too deafening was this silence But something I wanted to experience at the
162 LHR380: Same with Heathrow. BA sent passengers (on coach's) as far as Reading and Hemel and central London!
163 GCT64: and they have been flying where I am (NW of LHR). Saw various different Eurocopters and Agustas flying over during the afternoon.
164 BuyantUkhaa: That could also disrupt the Heads of State attending the Polish president's funeral in Krakow on Sunday I think...
168 airbuseric: It might become worse even, when the volcano located next to the erupted one will become active. This happened all the previous times in history. And
170 B747forever: Probably BA and AF will follow suit. Doubt we will see a lot of trans atlantic flights tomorrow. How is it about the Asian flights, have not heard an
171 airbuseric: For AMS; SQ SIN-AMS JL NRT-AMS BR TPE-BKK-AMS already cancelled. So you might expect SQ and JL flights to LHR and CDG also cancelled already for Frid
172 JL418: I'm afraid these kind of volcanoes erupts for very long periods. Mount Etna and Mauna Loa, the ones I know more about, can keep on that state for mon
173 HansHubers: This is how the screens looked like at AMS this evening... sad sight
174 grimey: I'm only getting to my computer now but when I first heard the news this morning at 06:30 (Dublin local time) I looked out and could see a few contrai
175 B747forever: Thanks! Indeed very sad. Just think of all the money the airlines will lose because of this. If this continues for several days it will hit a lot of
176 Bralo20: Hey, do you have any source for this news? Thanks!
177 airbuseric: And then "Gute Reise" (Have a nice trip - in German) Interesting to see the CZ flight AMS-BJS still open for check-in while that aircraft never left
178 airbuseric: That means FRA will not open anymore on Friday. Normal airport opens at 0400Z/0600L for operations. That means the airport stays closed on Friday mor
179 ANstar: Just think of all the flights that might of departed with 50 - 60% load factors that will depart with 100% oads tomorrow!
180 CARST: LH is writing on their homepage that only HAM is closed. Where does the news about FRA come from?
181 blink182: Is anybody's flightplans affected by this? I was supposed to fly BTS-CRL-BTS this weekend but Ryanair canceled. They're offering full refunds and free
182 FlySSC: CDG is now closed. AF has re-scheduled all its late evening flights departing between 23h00 & 23h45 before the "dead line" : AF990 CDG-JNB 11:20PM
183 BP1: So if you are stuck in Europe, what do you do? 1. Take a train to Eastern Europe, Germany, Italy, Spain and catch a flight from there until the cloud
184 oa260: Hard to tell looking at FRA arrivals board for tomorrow there are sporadic cancellations, even evening BA flights are cancelled. I guess its a waitin
185 eaa3: Take a ship to Iceland and fly from there KEF is still open.
186 oa260: Your lucky if your on mainland Europe as the trains and ships are easy to get around on. Here in Ireland we are cut off lol..
187 Bralo20: I've logged into the system with Eurocontrol and there is no NOTAM issued that FRA will be closed... So the news of the FRA closure seems to be prelim
188 oa260: With the volcano in Iceland still spewing ash, Eurocontrol said that forecasts suggested the cloud would keep moving east and southeast affecting on F
189 nwafan20: For DTW all flights to LHR, CDG, AMS, and LH443 to FRA are canceled but DL142 to FRA and RJ 268 to AMM are still listed as on-time and operating.
190 CARST: That is at least a little bit of hope... I am booked on C9 MHG-TXL today and back on Monday and I am still hoping that South and East Germany won't b
191 LHFADUS: I was supposed to fly DUS-ORD tomorrow. When I wanted to start my flight preparations, the system told me LH436 did no longer exist for April 16. So I
192 LHPDX: Are US airlines flights to Munich cancelled for tomorrow?
193 Bralo20: It was written in the German media that DUS would close but I can't find a confirmation about that
194 prebennorholm: There is one passenger ship going to Iceland. It makes a roundtrip every week and leaves Denmark every Saturday and arrives on the Icelandic east in
195 eaa3: Here is a picture of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano/ glacier that I took a couple of weeks ago when I was there. It seemed quite peaceful but that is n
196 BAW716: It's going to be a mess in Europe at least through the weekend. Once the winds shift and drive the ash in a different direction will things clear in E
197 Pygmalion: For your reading pleasure. Some information that Boeing published on Volcanic Ash in Aero Magazine in 2000 and how it affects air traffic and aircraft
198 wumzi: I'm stuck in Belfast at the moment. I was supposed to fly home to Canada on the 16th, first BHD-LHR on BMI and then LHR-YUL on AC. Though the AC port
199 764: Interestingly, United 927 actually departed for Frankfurt for Washington a little while ago. Eight hours late, but at least they are on their way....
200 QF744: Qantas has just cancelled all European flights for today... No QF flights to UK/Europe today Qantas has just announced the cancellation of all flights
201 kubus: Well I got a full refund on my flights and hotel. Guess I'll watch the president's funeral on tele. This is truly a mess. Last time I saw all the flig
202 CrossChecked: Am at Heathrow and I am absolutely CERTAIN that something just took off. 0250am local time LHR. Anyone any ideas?
203 A346Dude: Am I the only one worried that this could continue for weeks or months and severely disrupt intercontinental travel? What contingencies (if any) are i
204 413X3: I see freighters coming from Asia through PANC such as Emirates and Cargolux. I am guessing they are just taking the long way around?
205 aussie747: I can only imagine the congestion at St Pancras Station for the Eurostar at the moment !!!!!!
206 aussie747: BA have also just announced that BA 10 and BA 16 from Sydney to London have also been cancelled for today as well. Also the latest from EK is as follo
207 YYZYYT: Is there any chance that this will effect the plans of many to fly in for Sunday's funeral? There are a few flights planning on making the trip (incl
208 rfields5421: Phone calls, web meetings, e-mail and snail mail. People actually conducted business efficiently before the days of extensive air travel. Vacations w
209 legacyins: UA 927 was to go to SFO. I guess they routed it through IAD to take a more Southern route.
210 rfields5421: Though the airspace is closed to IFR traffic, I am sure there is some traffic. Maybe government or goverment contract. From what I'm seeing an aircra
211 abrelosojos: At JFK ... was supposed to be on AY which got canceled (btw, AY management @ JFK is quite something) ... anyways, now takingSQ taking off from JFK @ 0
212 rfields5421: I'm sure the Air Force One flying circus can take a southern route across the Atlantic. The key question is will the government officials depart if t
214 skyhigh: I wonder if Qantas will put the A380 on QF1/2 in addition to QF31/32 to pick up he backlog when things start moving again. My partner's company has 31
215 rfields5421: Looking at the filed plans on FlightAware - it looks like tonight's route is north along the coast to near St John's Newfoundland then straight acros
216 bwest: Looking at the Brussels Airport site, it seems a lot of todays flights are delayed till after 6PM. I wonder if this is anything more than just wishful
217 764: It appears that Delta finally gave up. DL 24 left ATL this afternoon for DUS. They took a nice joyride until a little past Halifax, before they finall
218 abrelosojos: = In a bad way . Though, a part of me doesn't blame them ... having 2 agents cater to a fully loaded 330 is not fun. Moreover, the scenes were pretty
219 zkojh: from skynews their saying that the deadline from 13:00 has now moved to 19:00 GMT..
220 SKORD: BBC Web site also reporting the same. Poor things... i have been in that position myself and its quite frightening!
221 web500sjc: does any one know where AF277, NRT to CDG is going?
222 LHCVG: Am I right to interpret this to mean that airlines could just fly a southern route straight west through France instead of cancelling altogether? I r
223 blueflyer: Airspace closures as reported by Eurocontrol about an hour ago. Any airport within that airspace is obviously closed. The time indicates when the airs
224 rfields5421: The key seems to be the destination airport. If it is accepting flights, or if the destination nation is accepting flight plans to the airport. Or if
225 rfields5421: Over the years airlines have learned that not only is it best for the airline, but the vast majority of passengers would rather return the the origin
226 RNOcommctr: Short-term, I sympathize with all those whose travel plans are being disrupted by this event. Long-term, I worry about the financial impact on the air
227 SKORD: Does anyone have any idea how the likes of TCX, TOM, MON etc are able to cope with such a mess as this. Being Charter airlines they are not able to si
228 ckfred: I think the Queen Mary 2 arrived in New York and did a turnaround for Southampton. I wonder how many calls Cunard received from people on the East Coa
229 Jaymz85: My mom is supposed to fly CDG-DTW on AF378 on Saturday the 17th. What are her chances of making it ?
230 voar: I wonder if it would be feasable, if this were to last for more than a week, for airlines to fly to more southern airports outside of the ash cloud zo
231 abrelosojos: = Yup. = I was thinking about this ... is it really a huge financial impact if most airlines do not endorse you over to other carriers. Can't one arg
232 Ltbewr: At a time of serious economic problems throughout the world, especially in the USA and much of Europe, this volcano ash event could further worsen the
233 blueflyer: Ash cloud moving slowly East. Eurocontrol now reporting TATL flights to/from BFS, GLA and PIK may be allowed to operate. On the other hand, the closin
234 blueflyer: 0430Z Eurocontrol conference notes FRA is effectively closing. Technically, the airport remains open, but unreachable. Terminal Area closing from 0600
235 blueflyer: LYS By running scheduled flights on schedule, adding extra flights if you have holes in the schedule and canceling people's vacation. Way too early t
236 squawk0303: I saw KLM 744, AF 332, BA 772, AI 777 all parked at ORD tonight. On my way back from work LH 346 was taxing out, not sure whether it was being taxing
237 ogre727: I really don´t want to spend a week in Norwich next week... as mentioned before I am crossing my fingers so my flights are canceled on Sunday (KLM ZR
238 vfw614: All airports in Germany north of Frankfurt appear to have closed shop. My flight from CGN has been cancelled - and all departures until the early afte
239 EBGARN: The airspace of the northern two thirds of Sweden will now open, from the airport MXX (Mora) and north of it. Too bad there are very few flights in be
240 murchmo: Seattle times website has this story: 4 Seattle-to-Europe flights fall victim to Icelands Volcanic Ash. This on the heels of a Pulitzer they just won.
241 sankaps: Any news of Western Russia / Ukraine / Moscow airspace? Any risk that these may be impacted too in the next day or two?[Edited 2010-04-15 23:27:28]
242 dstc47: Shannon is now open and there are hints that Dublin may open at 11. Not a lot of use given that UK airspace remaining closed. Minor west coast Irish a
243 blueflyer: No problem expected today. If anything, traffic to Russia is easier, as Russian authorities are more flexible than usual on entry points into their a
244 gkirk: That's where the likes of Astraeus, Titan Airways etc come into play, as do any spare a/c these airlines have, get put straight into action.
245 mark8762: The term is "futile trip" and the entire ticket can be refunded at the customer's request. If a flight diverts, and the customer requests to return h
246 Jalap: I am pretty certain that if this continues for days more they'll start flying again, ashes or no ashes. In some adapted regime probably but they'll f
247 Glom: Would this now be a good time for the big airports to open themselves up to GA aircraft wanted to do touch 'n' gos? They could charge £20 for each on
248 MadameConcorde: I would not even think of boarding the QM2 considering the cost and also the fact that Cunard has prolonged Transatlantic crossing time from the orgi
249 TommyBP251b: Hi Everybody, DUS, FRA seem to be closed. SQ26 FRA-JFK althought was able to depart. according to Radar-virtuel 2 LH flights are still heading to FRA.
250 BrouAviation: It is so strange to see life going on normally. Trains driving in time, normal rush hour on the roads. Just the sky is empty. Like aviation never exis
251 TommyBP251b: Once again me, According to Radar Virtuell, LH 403 &419 ar still heading for FRA, LH 761 seems to turn south-west heading MUC & ZRH. Regards T
252 MadameConcorde: Mamma miia I see that there is no traffic in Zurich and if Zurich is shut down then so is Geneva. There is one lonely plane passing through the sky CO
253 ChrisEDDL: Hi! LH403 has is just landing on 07L at this moment. I was listening to the ATC but they gave no clue why they were still allowed in... Chris EDDF
255 Burkhard: I try since 30 minuites now, Frankfurt airport website is not reachable. I understand they close the runways, but a breal down of the web pahes isn't
259 MadameConcorde: Maybe Frankfurt allows landing for the long hauls that are coming in. This is what the volcano looks from the ground. Some amazing pictures here. http
260 wfm: Hi CPH will continue to be closed until 02:00 local time saturday morning. - Michael
261 kiramakora: Guess one a.netter (abrelosojos) was able to cross. He knows how to pick winners. LOL. Tomorrow/Today is not going to be fun.
262 solair: Cork ORK and Shannon SNN are now open in Ireland but nothing is moving yet as most routes east or south to the UK or into mainland Europe can't fly. S
263 BrouAviation: Looking at that, AMS and BRU will be clear of ashcloud after 1800Z. Then it's only waiting on the remaining ash to fall down. Looking at the weather
264 MadameConcorde: Singapore Airlines page flight cancellations for today, Friday. http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/Util...til/BreakingNewsPopup.jsp?msgId=11 I wonder if
265 vfw614: Lufthansa has announced on its Twitter page that all flights from FRA and airports north of it have now been cancelled for the rest of the day. Passen
266 AustrianZRH: What's that Air Transat A330 ex GLA to YYZ doing in UK airspace. Open again?
267 Burkhard: Didn't see it mentioned yet, HHN is fully closed too.
268 jamies80085: Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Friday April 16, 0830 The cloud of volcanic ash continues to cover much of the UK and the eruption in Icelan
269 shamrock321: Sky news reporting that English airspace closed until 0100 tommorow, Scottishairtspace may reopen, but where can they go?
270 Someone83: Avinor, the Norwegian Air Authorities has from 09:00 CET opened up the Norwegian Airspace north of Trondheim (TRD). However, they do not know for how
271 varig_dc10: We are currently stuck in DTW on our way back from MCO. Our original route was MCO-DTW, DTW-AMS, AMS-NCL. We were fortunate to get rebooked onto anoth
272 T8KE0FF: UK airspace closed until 0100BST Saturday.
273 MadameConcorde: Does anyone here have the radar for Frankfurt? It looks like some flights are operating in Frankfurt, Dusseldorf. I see a number of LH flights on the
274 UN_B732: I can't believe that airspace is basically shut down.. Hope this doesn't drag on too long, but a friend said the last time this volcano erupted it was
275 solair: This is going to cost carriers a fortune!
276 oldtimer: BBC has just announced that UK airspace will stay closed until 0100Z Saturday
277 varig_dc10: Does anybody have any idea what is happening with French Airspace?
278 BrouAviation: Something tells me we won't be back airborne before the beginning of next week. Especially when the winds turn, which they most likely will, and the
279 Bralo20: At least closed until 16APR2010 1400CET
280 B747forever: It just gets worse by the minute! Can one really hope things will get back to normal by this weekend?
281 MadameConcorde: There is air traffic going through Switzerland. LH, LX, TK and others. Looks like Munich and Zurich are opened and Prague as well. I will see if SQ345
282 macc: i am having lots of fun getting my assistant back from BHX. Sent her to Paris yesterday on train, to fly from there this morning. Now no trains availa
283 varig_dc10: Thanks Bralo 20. We are due to fly to Montreal in 6 hours. By then I imagine they will know what is happening with CDG. I've got a feeling we won't b
284 Burkhard: To normal for sure not. There is hope that some airports will open again, beginning in the North, and the Chaos going south, but normal operation wit
285 LHR380: This is a weird sight. Nothing in the air around around the most busy parts of Europe.
286 Glom: If this is as bad as it seems, we could be on course for the stone age. Time to break out the altar.
287 fca767: Well Manchester Airport are greedy on everything they charge for, so maybe not them Does anyone have a pic of where the ash is? Because the notams an
288 Burkhard: More than wierd. keep this to tell your grand children, and they theirs...
289 solair: If you're in Paris, London, Brussels etc you might be best advised to get to Bordeaux or somewhere in the south of France by TGV (high speed train) fo
291 B747forever: It looks so empty. Almost scary! That is what I really meant. Hopefully we will see airports opening up again.
292 jetfuel: This is why airlines need to make more money.... events like this cost millions and could easily contribute to some going broke For pax there's no tra
293 oa260: I wonder if anything will go this weekend. --- Update on flight disruptions at Dublin Airport, Friday 16th April The IAA has confirmed that restricti
294 Glom: You all realise we wouldn't be in this mess if all aircraft were rocket powered.
295 LFutia: Good Morning! AA flt 292 ORD-DEL looks like took a very northern route North through Canada and then over the top of Greenland -- http://flightaware.c
296 fca767: Why do they lose money? Can't everyone take unpaid work for a week? Like a farmer deciding he can't work for a week and makes no money. The planes are
297 MadameConcorde: I remember aviation in the 60's even some of the 50's but I have never seen anything like this in my life time. Looks like if there was war. Empty sk
298 aircatalonia: I somehow like these things. A good humility cure for humanity. We are nothing, a simple volcanic eruption can bring a whole continent's air system t
299 varig_dc10: I still haven't checked my travel insurance, to see if I'm covered. I'm assuming I won't be. So far it hasn't cost me much, but if todays flight gets
300 727forever: East bound tracks tend to be south anyway due to the prevailing winds over the NAT. Tracks Y and Z are about normal but X and W are definately more s
301 acabgd: I suppose it would be able to fly way above the ash cloud - that is if there was a place from where it could take off. I was not aware of this - what
302 LHR380: Are you serious? I still have bills to pay, food to buy, I cant afford to have a weeks wages taken away from me for something out of my control.
303 FatmirJusufi: ...and that country is bankrupt. Once upon a time it was an island country called Iceland!
304 fca767: But it's always important to try and save money incase something happens
305 dalce: ask the british and the dutch about it......
306 acabgd: Exactly, therefore my suggestion However, I think it's pretty pointless talking about who will pay for carbon offsetting after the volcano spit milli
307 RIXrat: FYI, in addition to Estonia, Latvian airspace is closed as well.
308 sankaps: Looks like St Pete and Moscow may soon come under pressure as well... any updates on the outlook for those cities?
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