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DL Tech Stops SVO-JFK, SU Non-stop?  
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9187 times:

It looks like for the past couple of days; according to flightaware, Aeroflot has operated the A330-300 (!) non-stop SVO-JFK, while Delta's 767-300/ER has been making technical stops. Any idea of why the 333 is doing better than the 763?

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User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8762 times:

I'm guessing this has something to do with the volcanic event in Iceland. Perhaps a longer route is required to avoid the ash cloud over northwest Europe? I've never experienced, or heard of, tech stops on DL's SVO-JFK route.

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7838 times:

That's what I think too.. But why does Aeroflot manage to do in non-stop with an A330-300, and yet DL has to divert on a 767-300/ER, which *should* have more range. There's something we don't know about here. Looks like today they went non-stop on DL.

-A



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25843 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7751 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Thread starter):
while Delta's 767-300/ER has been making technical stops.

DL's SVO-JFK flight on Wednesday diverted to Goose Bay (YYR) due to an unruly passenger. Excerpt from Transport Canada daily incident summary for April 14.

DAL31, Boeing 767-300, enroute from Moscow (UUEE) to New York (KJFK), entered Canadian domestic airspace at SCROD intersection. The flight reported an unruly passenger and requested to divert to Goose Bay (CYYR). The aircraft landed at 16:40Z.


User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7367 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
DL's SVO-JFK flight on Wednesday diverted to Goose Bay (YYR) due to an unruly passenger.
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 2):
There's something we don't know about here.

There you go ... nothing dramatic.


User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7280 times:

...and on 15 April, DL's SVO-JFK diverted to Warsaw (WAW). Not certain why...but ordinarily that flight would have no business being anywhere near WAW.

Ash cloud necessitated a (much) more southerly (and lengthy) track? If so, it still is basically impossible to know why DL required tech stop and SU did not. Some combination of payload, conditions at time of flight, crew flight time issues...?


User currently offlineturpentyine From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6746 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 2):
That's what I think too.. But why does Aeroflot manage to do in non-stop with an A330-300, and yet DL has to divert on a 767-300/ER, which *should* have more range. There's something we don't know about here. Looks like today they went non-stop on DL.

Also what I wanna know is why is it that every time there is a major snow storm Delta cancels its SVO flight but Aeroflot still operates? Seems like SU is a lot more reliable to fly on this route than DL.

[Edited 2010-04-16 13:54:12]

User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3012 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6528 times:

Quoting turpentyine (Reply 6):
Also what I wanna know is why is it that every time there is a major snow storm Delta cancels its SVO flight but Aeroflot still operates? Seems like SU is a lot more reliable to fly on this route than DL.

Just a guess... But maybe DL cancels the flight not to have a plane stranded away from home base if the weather persists. That would cause problems later in the system. Where as AFL is flying the plane home.. so nothing to worry about. That was my random thought.

Back to te topic. Looks like the SVO flight has had a couple of problems in the last coulpe of days, huh? I'm sort of curious about the unruly pax story. Wonder what happened.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12262 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6503 times:
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Quoting turpentyine (Reply 6):
Also what I wanna know is why is it that every time there is a major snow storm Delta cancels its SVO flight but Aeroflot still operates? Seems like SU is a lot more reliable to fly on this route than DL.

Because SU has one flight in/out of JFK, and DL has hundreds....



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User currently offlinedal7e7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
Back to te topic. Looks like the SVO flight has had a couple of problems in the last coulpe of days, huh? I'm sort of curious about the unruly pax story. Wonder what happened.

From the Aviation Herald:

Quote:
The Police said, the Russian woman brought duty free alcohol on board and consumed that alcohol in the lavatory, which resulted in a commotion and the crew requesting the diversion. The woman has to appear in court facing charges of endangering safety of an aircraft.

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User currently offlineMPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 996 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Quoting turpentyine (Reply 6):
Also what I wanna know is why is it that every time there is a major snow storm Delta cancels its SVO flight but Aeroflot still operates? Seems like SU is a lot more reliable to fly on this route than DL.

I would also add that since they are partners, DL can rebook the passengers either on the SU flight or through just about any airport in Europe as they can connect to the SU flights to SVO from there. Just a thought.



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25843 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6207 times:

Related news item re the DL diversion to YYR.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundlan...rplane-diversion-labrador-415.html


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5400 times:

So WAW must've been technical; and YYR a poorly timed coincidence.

7673mech, no need for the attitude.. I was just asking a question :]

Is it true the 333 has better range than the 763ER? Someone e-mailed that to me..



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User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5193 times:

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 4):
DL's SVO-JFK flight on Wednesday diverted to Goose Bay (YYR) due to an unruly passenger.

What? Unruly passenger on a Moscow flight? Never!



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1608 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

It is still an odd reaction: to divert because of woman drinking duty-free alcohol in the washroom.
Couldn't they arrange police meeting her at JFK?


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 14):

It is still an odd reaction: to divert because of woman drinking duty-free alcohol in the washroom.
Couldn't they arrange police meeting her at JFK?

Over-reaction and handling of routine customer service issues as security / terror threats is quite the norm these days aboard US airlines.


User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9665 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 12):
Is it true the 333 has better range than the 763ER? Someone e-mailed that to me..

no, the 332 does though.



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User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3565 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 15):
Over-reaction and handling of routine customer service issues as security / terror threats is quite the norm these days aboard US airlines.

True, sadly.


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