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JetBlue BDL To FLL And MCO  
User currently onlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10960 times:

Went on to jetblue.com to check on flights for a friend and was a little surprised to see this on the front page: BDL to FLL and MCO starting Nov. 17

The strange part is that there isn't a press release posted on their press room section, its not yet listed as a destination in the dropdown menus for reservations, and its not even on their routemap yet.


Did I miss something, or is someone's head gonna be rolling shortly?

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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1027 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10951 times:

I just saw it too. It's not in the reservations system yet, but I guess B6 is opening BDL then.

[Edited 2010-04-17 06:38:21]


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User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 818 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10943 times:

you are right. i just checked jetblue.com and its the very first shot of the slide-show.

don't airlines normally announce new routes on a Tue, Wed, or Thurs.?

great to see BDL added to the route map (well, once its official)


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10953 times:
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No news in the Courant at the moment, maybe they jumped the gun? It's right there on the front page of JetBlue.com. Sounds like the cat is out of the bag!

Now the question is whether they'll take gate A5, A7, or A8!

[Edited 2010-04-17 06:39:29]


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User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2894 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10951 times:

I'm guessing there will be a press release soon, they're probably still ironing out the flight and fleet schedule before they post it for booking...might as well start the buzz so they get strong bookings once it's released.


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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1027 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10939 times:

Yes, this is definitely an unofficial "announcement" though it is reliable since it comes straight from jetblue.com themselves.


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User currently onlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10895 times:

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 3):
No news in the Courant at the moment, maybe they jumped the gun? It's right there on the front page of JetBlue.com.

I'm curious if this was intentional or an oopsie, and if someones    is gonna fry for this.


User currently offlineiliribdl From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10890 times:

They'll be taking the former NW counter I'm pretty sure.

Good news for BDL.  



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10891 times:
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Quoting BOS2LAF (Reply 6):
I'm curious if this was intentional or an oopsie, and if someones    is gonna fry for this.

It's what we call an "intentional unintentional leak" in the biz.  



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User currently offline727lover From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6499 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10605 times:

Who is the nonstop competition on these routes?


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User currently offlineiliribdl From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10580 times:

Quoting 727lover (Reply 9):
Who is the nonstop competition on these routes?

DL and WN.



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User currently onlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10556 times:

BDL-FLL had to have been some of the lowest hanging fruit for any airline routemap in the US. DL used to have 400 daily seats with song year round, and now they have 0 seats May-November. My guess is DL will completely abandon this route now.

MCO will be interesting because they will be the 3rd carrier. 1x daily might not be enough to get DL off the route, but 2x and I think we will see DL pull back completely or to maybe like saturday only.



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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10492 times:

OK....when are they starting up PVD? They might as well.

[Edited 2010-04-17 08:42:55]

User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2894 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10449 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):
BDL-FLL had to have been some of the lowest hanging fruit for any airline routemap in the US. DL used to have 400 daily seats with song year round, and now they have 0 seats May-November. My guess is DL will completely abandon this route now.

MCO will be interesting because they will be the 3rd carrier. 1x daily might not be enough to get DL off the route, but 2x and I think we will see DL pull back completely or to maybe like saturday only.

Other than the O/D for the MCO and FLL markets, one really great thing that this will offer (if scheduled right) will be the connection ability for Caribbean destinations:

FLL can connect to SJU, SDQ, CUN, NAS

MCO can connect to NAS, CUN, MBJ, SJO, BOG, SDQ, PSE, SJU and BQN

I wonder if they are going to make BDL an A320 or E190 station...or a combination. Hmmmmmmmmm



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User currently offlinesectflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10446 times:

I think DL will hang in there. They seem to be fairly comitted to BDL. A little competition is a good thing!

User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 665 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10433 times:

Seems like you could probably get better yields opening a new Caribbean city.


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User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10420 times:

It will be interesting to see how DL reacts to B6 entering BDL. Even if DL doesn't start FLL back up, I would be surprised to see them cut MCO completely. DL has a long history with that route, and BDL is one of its only heavy P2P stations left, with service still being maintained down to other Florida cities. DL's history with BDL in general is quite interesting. As recently as 2006 it could have been thought of as a quasi-focus city, with service to ATL, CVG, JFK, SLC, LAX, LAS, CMH, FLL, PBI, MCO, TPA, RSW all going on during that period of time. BDL has definitely been hit hard by DL cuts in recent years, though it's good to have LAX back on.

User currently onlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10381 times:

And now it appears that it was taken down from their website...

Someone's gonna be in trouble.


User currently offlinesectflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10276 times:

Perhaps it was intended to go up later this week with an official announcement. This just did not come from nowhere!

User currently onlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10178 times:

Quoting John (Reply 12):
OK....when are they starting up PVD? They might as well.

BDL was the logical first step since their florida service has seen better days (PVD currently has more capacity on TPA MCO and FLL than BDL does). I think provided BDL does well, then we will see a similar start up (MCO/FLL) from PVD hopefully within 1 year of BDL (meaning sometime in 2011).



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User currently offlineBlueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10106 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Reply 2):
you are right. i just checked jetblue.com and its the very first shot of the slide-show.

don't airlines normally announce new routes on a Tue, Wed, or Thurs.?

great to see BDL added to the route map (well, once its official)

They have selected dates for new routes annoucements? just like music cd's always released on tue? i find that neat



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9800 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 13):
Other than the O/D for the MCO and FLL markets, one really great thing that this will offer (if scheduled right) will be the connection ability for Caribbean destinations:
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 13):
MCO can connect to NAS, CUN, MBJ, SJO, BOG, SDQ, PSE, SJU and BQN

Also when they start FLL-KIN & FLL-MBJ it will be a nice alternative for BDL-KIN/MBJ passengers to avoid MIA , again if scheduled properly to make timely connections.

Quoting Icebird757 (Reply 15):
Seems like you could probably get better yields opening a new Caribbean city.

Or service from an existing Caribbean city to a different U.S point, such as KIN-FLL which I think is just a matter of time before we see.



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User currently offlineBlueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9366 times:

Speaking of new routes when we goin to hear anything about DCA this seem to happen after DCA and annouced before it?


B6 T5 JFK DL T2/3 JFK
User currently offlineB6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8790 times:

Forgot to add quote from DCA-ROCguy.
B6 entered into an agreement with AA to transfer some slots at DCA (AA to B6) and at JFK (B6 to AA). Announced March 31, 2010.

http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix....-newsArticle&ID=1408146&highlight=

[Edited 2010-04-17 22:58:09]

User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8742 times:

I checked their site and didn't see it. But I will be excited to see it, even though I don't live anywhere near BDL. It's a shame that there is no hub for pax going to western locations and that BOS and JFK are too close, but a new carrier can be nothing but good for BDL. Hopefully PVD, MHT, and (not happening but in my dreams) ORH will follow.


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25 DCA-ROCguy : Thanks MAH and B6WnQZ for corrections...forgot about the subsequent deal! Blueman is thus definitely right, sorry for error. Jim
26 BOS2LAF : Yeah, it was taken down a few hours after it went up. Somebody jumped the gun.
27 sectflyer : I bet that someone in there IT department created the banner in advance for it to be put up. But instead of saving it it was accidentally put up on th
28 surfandsnow : It was only up in the middle of the night, so most people missed it. I'm sure we will hear something soon. It's nice to see B6 further expanding in t
29 sectflyer : Probably a test run for the banner then. Makes sense.
30 iliribdl : When this thread was made it was still up, so it was after 9am.
31 richierich : No doubt the premature flight schedule was a mistake. Local media has been speculating about the service for a couple of weeks, so there are no big su
32 RL757PVD : Im hearing 2x to MCO and FLL probably on A320s. This will give BDL-FLL service that the market deserves and will also likely push DL out of both MCO a
33 CairnterriAIR : DL has a long history with BDL as well as a very loyal client base so I highly doubt it will drop the Florida nonstops. In fact I can see them upgradi
34 BlueWingWalker : It's now official 2 dailies to each FLL and MCO.[Edited 2010-04-19 10:06:46]
35 richierich : Delta can't run away every time and I am not sure how they will respond. Any guesses if WN will respond or are they comfortable with this? I'm guessi
36 Cubsrule : I can think of 100 better ways to stick it to WN than BDL-MCO. BDL is not (and never really has been) an especially solid performer for WN. It does f
37 RL757PVD : BDL-Florida has to be the least essential routes in the network unless there is some strong business connection that I am not aware of. What is Delta
38 ERJ170 : Looking at the schedule, its 2x MCO, 2x FLL.. very interesting..
39 Post contains links richierich : Fox61 and The Hartford Courant are reporting that a news conference will take place at 3PM to announce the new service. www.fox61.com
40 Post contains links RL757PVD : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU8500 With BDL being close to JFK, looks like an aircraft is being ferried in for the announcement.
41 iliribdl : I had heard from someone that they would bring some officials with a B6 plane for the announcement. As for DL, hard to say what they'll do, but I'm p
42 iliribdl : You can pull it up now on their website to book a flight.
43 RL757PVD : They already did when the completely dropped FLL for half of the year when they had no competition at all. The only way it stays is if there is a key
44 Post contains images iliribdl : Here's the schedule BDL-FLL depart - arrive 7:20a - 10:40a 4:10p - 7:30p BDL-MCO 8:45a - 11:55a 3:00p - 6:10p All with A320.
45 FlyPNS1 : With B6 and WN combined, I'm betting DL will finally throw in the towel on these routes. These routes just aren't that valuable to Delta today.
46 sectflyer : Looks like they will need just 1 gate? Anyone know which one(s)?
47 ChrisNH : They called Hartford 'The Gateway to New England.' I'm in marketing and I even rolled my eyes at that bit of hyperbole. Truth be told, it's the gatewa
48 Post contains images RL757PVD : and actually PVD is the closer gateway to those casinos
49 ilovepabst : Would it be outrageous for them to add an early AM BDL-JFK to connect through that hub and then a late JFK-BDL return? Maybe just a single E-190?
50 Post contains links B6JFKH81 : Press release is out: http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix....-newsArticle&ID=1414560&highlight=
51 ScottB : I don't buy that. Delta dominated the BOS-FLL non-stop market for years and yet they no longer fly it non-stop. Delta's BOS-TPA and BOS-RSW non-stops
52 surfandsnow : Now now, for those gamblers down in Florida, plenty of casinos much closer to home - Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Resort come to mind, as do the vari
53 ChrisNH : I agree. Unless your city is named 'Atlanta' or 'New York' or a select few others, Delta is quick to give up and cede market ownership to others. How
54 RL757PVD : I dont think so at all.... theres very very very few pax who chose between BDL and JFK..and on jetblue its probably nonexistant because of services o
55 richierich : Well it is technically New England's second largest airport after BOS (although I imagine PVD is a very close third). I guess saying the 'Gateway to
56 sectflyer : All fair points. I think that B6 will do extremely well in Hartford. I bet that you will see more destinations in the fairly near future.
57 Post contains images RL757PVD : I think a seasonal RSW will be the first add, though this will also just replace Delta and 1x TPA and PBI after that... you guessed it, also Delta re
58 sectflyer : As a DL Gold and a big B6 fan I hope that there is a little competition and everyone survives. More is better!
59 RL757PVD : Looks like Delta is officially out of BDL-FLL according to the latest timetable update It was showing 2x in December (one of which was X123) now nothi
60 ERJ170 : I wonder if RDU and BDL can have a joint discussion with B6 to do a single RDU-BDL flight.. now that American Eagle is off the route, it would make se
61 wepaman : SJU-BDL will be another strong market. Right now AA is the only one with a 18:00 depature... Wepa
62 Blueman87 : Maybe DCA
63 Womack17 : I completely concur. JI ran BDL-RDU-MCO-RDU-BDL on a 320 for several years and then ran BDL-RDU-FLL-RDU-BDL on the F100 and the 73G. Also ran PHL-PBI
64 ScottB : Actually, I think there are a fair number of people in New Haven County and parts of Fairfield County who might choose between BDL, HPN, LGA, and JFK
65 RL757PVD : For nonstops yes, I was referring to exclusively MCO and FLL, those passengers have plenty of options out of HPN.
66 ERJ170 : Nah, they were going through the hub. That's why lots of it went through RDU.. I think B6 could fill a E90 though... the question is, what would that
67 RL757PVD : I dont 1) B6 is a very small player on both ends (not even a player at all on the BDL end yet) 2) There is no network flow on either end I think the
68 ERJ170 : I could see one of these working.. B6 BDL-RDU-MCO or FLL (1x E90) DL BDL-RDU (2x CRJ) I don't see anyone else really working the route.. 737 is too m
69 RL757PVD : a market like BDL-RDU requires frequency and applying flow fares on a connecting flight such as BDL-FLL via RDU only drags the yeild down on what is
70 Post contains images Cubsrule : AA really had the right recipe on the route with small RJs on which they could command really high yields and still keep capacity under control. They
71 sflaflight : Great, now if only B6 could add BTV-FLL (should have been added years ago) and PWM-FLL the dots would really be connected!
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