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2500 Apply For 70 Hawaiian FA Positions  
User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7063 times:

And this recruitment drive wasn't even advertised in the local Honolulu newspapers like it normally is.

A few weeks ago, An in house memo was circulated letting us know that HA would be hiring more flight attendants and that if we knew of good candidates, we should encourage them to apply. The end result was that 2500 applied and that was narrowed down to 750. I believe that the final interviews are taking place this weekend here in Honolulu, with the first class of 35 to begin training in May. HA is hiring 2 classes of 35 each.

Mark Dunkerley, HA's CEO was quoted in an article this past week in the Honolulu Advertiser stating that HA would hire 45 new flight attendants for every new A330-200 that was delivered. Considering that HA will accept delivery of 10 A330's by the end of 2014, looks like HA will be hiring many more flight attendants in the next few years!

An interesting side note, I was told by some friends that are conducting interviews that some of the final candidates are fluent in Spanish. Most of the finalists were selected based on fluency in a second or even third language. But Spanish? Could an A330 make it from MEX to HNL without restrictions? Just asking.

Aloha,
HALFA


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User currently onlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6194 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7020 times:

Bad economy, nothing new!

SkyWest had 394 show up in Denver for 15 positions a few months back! That was with people paying there way to Denver.



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

Quoting HALFA (Thread starter):
Most of the finalists were selected based on fluency in a second or even third language. But Spanish? Could an A330 make it from MEX to HNL without restrictions? Just asking.

There is no market for flights between Honolulu and Mexico City whatsoever, albeit an A330 can make it in theory, but not sure how MEX's altitude and heat would change that.

There is, however, large Spanish speaking communities in Southern California and the Philippines. I don't think hiring Spanish-speaking FA's is an indication of flights to Mexico. All airlines have some need for them even on domestic services.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15830 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6919 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2):
There is, however, large Spanish speaking communities in Southern California and the Philippines.

Yeah, my first thought was the Philippines too.



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6851 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2):
. I don't think hiring Spanish-speaking FA's is an indication of flights to Mexico.

While I will agree with you that HA hiring flight attendants fluent in Spanish is not an indication that HA will begin flying to Mexico City, I disagree with you that there is no market between Hawaii and Mexico whatsoever. There are 20+ Million people in Mexico City. There is a lot of wealth in Mexico city. Affluent Mexicans travel well, and many DO travel to Hawaii for their holidays. There is also a large and growing hispanic population in Hawaii, mainly working in agriculture on the Big Island, as well as several hotels in West Maui.
A few years ago, many naysayers on here said that flights between SMF and HNL would never work. Yet HA has no problem filling a 767 daily between the two cities. I see no reason why HA couldn't fill an A330 between HNL and MEX, a city of over 20 Million people, 3 or 4 times per week. I'm not saying at all that that is in the plans or that it will happen, but I believe there is potential there.
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HALFA



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6840 times:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 4):
I disagree with you that there is no market between Hawaii and Mexico whatsoever.

The O&D market is less than 50 people per day.



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6794 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 5):
The O&D market is less than 50 people per day.

That may be so, but the beauty of starting the only non stop service between an untapped market is that it entices people to travel somewhere that otherwise might have been too difficult to get to. Again, I'm not saying it's going to happen, I just believe that there is potential.



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User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6793 times:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 4):
A few years ago, many naysayers on here said that flights between SMF and HNL would never work. Yet HA has no problem filling a 767 daily between the two cities.

I'll back you on that one.... Those of us that are here appreciate that flight and would really miss it if it was gone. Sacramento may not seem to have a large population from the Islands, but my there are at least 100 members of my wife's family that are here, and we know of other large families out here from the islands. If there is enough of a market to support 3 L&L's around town, it should be able to support 1 acft/day. As a matter of fact, we'll have about 10 of your seats each way at the end of May/early June  


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25687 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6771 times:
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Quoting HALFA (Thread starter):
I was told by some friends that are conducting interviews that some of the final candidates are fluent in Spanish. Most of the finalists were selected based on fluency in a second or even third language. But Spanish?

By many surveys, Spanish is one of the three most widely used languages in the world, equalling, or in some surveys surpassing, English:

http://www2.ignatius.edu/faculty/turner/languages.htm

"The Summer Institute for Linguistics (SIL) Ethnologue Survey (1999) lists the following as the top languages by population:
(number of native speakers in parentheses)

Chinese* (937,132,000)
Spanish (332,000,000)
English (322,000,000)"


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User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 903 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6620 times:
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Quoting HALFA (Thread starter):
An interesting side note, I was told by some friends that are conducting interviews that some of the final candidates are fluent in Spanish

Perhaps HA is looking at incerased marketing in the Hispanic Community?

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Yeah, my first thought was the Philippines too.

Spanish is not widely spoken in The Philippines anymore. Mostly by older generations.

Tomas



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6408 times:

Does HA pay for the flight to HNL for the interview by chance?


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User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6318 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 10):
Does HA pay for the flight to HNL for the interview by chance?

Nope. Nor do they pay for training or accommodations during training.


User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13736 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6248 times:
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Quoting HALFA (Reply 6):
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 5):
The O&D market is less than 50 people per day.

That may be so, but the beauty of starting the only non stop service between an untapped market is that it entices people to travel somewhere that otherwise might have been too difficult to get to.

Perhaps, but even that 'new market' effect couldn't reasonably be expected to generate enough increase in the O&D numbers to get it up to near the breakeven load factor needed to support daily nonstops via an A330.



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 12):
Perhaps, but even that 'new market' effect couldn't reasonably be expected to generate enough increase in the O&D numbers to get it up to near the breakeven load factor needed to support daily nonstops via an A330.

Agreed. Which is why I suggested it might work with 3 or 4 flights per week.

Quoting HALFA (Reply 4):
I see no reason why HA couldn't fill an A330 between HNL and MEX, a city of over 20 Million people, 3 or 4 times per week.

HALFA



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6164 times:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 6):
That may be so, but the beauty of starting the only non stop service between an untapped market is that it entices people to travel somewhere that otherwise might have been too difficult to get to.

Absolutely, but on a route with no significant hub on either end, you aren't going to see much stimulation past maybe 25-30%, which still isn't enough.

We'll just have to agree to disagree here. MIA or MCO will see HNL service before MEX ever does.



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6132 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 14):
We'll just have to agree to disagree here.

  

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 14):
MIA or MCO will see HNL service before MEX ever does.

Nothing would make me happier to see HA start non stop service from HNL to MIA, with the exception of maybe HNL-GIG on our new A350's arriving in 2017!  

HALFA



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5981 times:

Quoting HALFA (Thread starter):

Based on what you said in your post, seems like this was an internal only hiring event.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15830 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5765 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 14):
Absolutely, but on a route with no significant hub on either end, you aren't going to see much stimulation past maybe 25-30%, which still isn't enough.

What about the market between MEX and Australia? MEX-HNL-SYD is shorter than MEX-LAX-SYD. Although it probably couldn't support the flight on its own, it might be a nice traffic bump if HA is on the fence about such a flight.



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User currently offlinePIEAvantiP180 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 558 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5723 times:

With so many aviation related jobs lost in the las few years its not suprising at all. In my company they had a posting online for an opening of 8 pilot jobs and we had 2100 resumes submitted in less then 2 weeks.

User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Back when DL was hiring they had close to 80,000 people apply for 1500 jobs! There is no shortage of people wanting to be F/As.


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5525 times:

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 11):
Nope. Nor do they pay for training or accommodations during training.

Yikes! That is costly and painful!



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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2572 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5471 times:

On the pilot side at HA we had about the same numbers the last time around too. We had just over 3000 applications online for 40 positions. Out of those 3000 I think they narrowed it down to 300 - 400 to interview, and from those about 150 were put into the hiring pool. The first 40 were hired last summer & fall, and the rest are waiting for further slots to open up. We probably won't interview again until the 'pool' is about dried up.

HAL



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User currently offlinemurchmo From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 5297 times:

Also Sacramento, San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Las Vegas and Phoenix have large Spanish speaking communities.


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User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 9):
Spanish is not widely spoken in The Philippines anymore. Mostly by older generations.

Very rare to hear Spanish spoken in the Philippines these days. I think this preference for Spanish speaking candidates is probably to accommodate the large Spanish speaking population in Southern California.


User currently offlineGVROYphx From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

HALFA....there's a VERY distinct difference between a FULL flight...and being PROFITABLE on a flight. Just because a flight is full...doesn't mean it's profitable. That's airline 101...and more than likely why HA or even other carriers haven't done MEX-HNL for the sole reason...it's a LEISURE market with little profit potential with a 767 or A330.

25 777STL : People of Latin/Central/South American descent are now the largest minority in the United States - I'm not surprised at all that HA desires F/As with
26 7673mech : You don't seem to understand Hawaiian's operation - which is profitable and based on leisure travel. It is totally based on the leisure market of Haw
27 leothedog : We were just in Hawaii a few weeks ago, and I was suprised at the number of people I heard speaking spanish.
28 pualani : What about connections to potential destinations like HND,AKL and SEL which are on the horizon? Add SYD to that and maybe the flight could be profitab
29 surfandsnow : There is absolutely no reason for HA to develop a transpacific connecting hub at HNL - there are already a plethora of nonstop transpacific options a
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