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Flowers On A 747!  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2984 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 15544 times:
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Every time I fly a 747 from Asia to the USA there is always a beautiful flower arragement in first class, last time orchids on a UA flight. Two questions who buys them? Do the airlines contact a florist and when they arrive in the USA are they distroyed by customs?


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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 15422 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
Two questions who buys them? Do the airlines contact a florist and when they arrive in the USA are they distroyed by customs?

Airlines get them through their catering contractors and yes they go to the dump when they get in to the US or somtimes if they are still looking fresh they will make the return trip


User currently offlinejetboy757 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 15258 times:

I remember reading somewhere that Hawaiian has a green house somewhere at HNL and they grow their own flowers. I don't know if it's true or not...

User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15185 times:

Airlines also have contracts with florists who provide the flowers for the counters too! Although I did read a trip report on here about a UA flight where on of the FAs remarked to a pax that she her self bought the floral arrangement in first, as she liked them so much but in general I'm sure the catering companies organise them.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26145 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15150 times:

USDA requires all inbound flower products (amongst other stuff like milk, meats, international trash) be removed and incinerated which airline caterers do.

Here is a bit of an old, but informative article about disposal of international items.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_n45_v23/ai_8135187/



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User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3856 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15150 times:
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Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
when they arrive in the USA are they distroyed by customs?

they fooled you too... they're actually smuggling vases.


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15053 times:

Just curious on that story dated 1989, was the internet around back then?? but intersting article


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26145 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14956 times:

If you want you can go to time.com and read 1940 articles. Internet or not, lots of material has been re-archived online these days.


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5521 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14826 times:

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 6):
Just curious on that story dated 1989, was the internet around back then?? but intersting article

Many news organizations archive their very old content electronically. Just recently I was reading a travel article on NY Times which I believe was from the 70's.


User currently offlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14629 times:
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Quoting jetboy757 (Reply 2):
I remember reading somewhere that Hawaiian has a green house somewhere at HNL and they grow their own flowers. I don't know if it's true or not...

It is not.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20335 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14474 times:

Wouldn't it make more sense to use plastic flowers? I mean, I know it's a bit tacky, but it's decor.

User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1130 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 14206 times:

THAI must have some greenhouses somewhere in Thailand - they give a small orchid to every female passenger on flights


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User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11640 times:

When I came back from Thailand a few years ago, we were able to bring through U.S. customs some cut flowers we bought at the Bangkok airport. But the customs people looked closely at them through a magnifying glass under bright light for several minutes. Considering they were bought in the airport, probably grown in a controlled environment and sprayed with all manner of bug killer, the risk probably was very small.

User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11379 times:

Other than trying to isolate an epidemic, or minimize the spread of disease, is there any reason to monitor plants and/or livestock that virtually live in the same ecosystems? I guess I'm speaking more of fruits and vegetables rather than animals as animals can be viral.

For instance, between Hawaii and the mainland, especially going into Hawaii, they question you about any fruits or vegetables you are bringing.....I'm assuming because Hawaii is it's own ecosystem. However, do we monitor heavily what gets transported between the US and Canada/Mexico?


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25989 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11170 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 13):
However, do we monitor heavily what gets transported between the US and Canada/Mexico?

I remember crossing from Canada-U.S. border by car years ago and we had some oranges. US Customs required that they be thrown away. I thought that was ironic since the oranges had almost certainly been grown in the U.S. and shipped to Canada for sale.


User currently offlineUnitedFA07 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10666 times:

If I remember right FRA to SFO, they had carnations in F class. I remember seeing something, I don't remember clearly since I was working with 310 pax in Y!   

Some FAs do buy their own flowers sometimes, not just on 747s but other widebodies.

  


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26145 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9476 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 13):
Other than trying to isolate an epidemic, or minimize the spread of disease, is there any reason to monitor plants and/or livestock that virtually live in the same ecosystems?

The introduction of non native bugs, plants, disease or can have devastating effects on local flora or live stock.

Invasive species can destroy local habitats causing significant environmental and economic harm.

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 13):
do we monitor heavily what gets transported between the US and Canada/Mexico?

Yes absolutely. Here in California we even have State Agriculture inspections on some roadways that lead into the state and introduction of even fruits on your person have been bared in the past.



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2984 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4012 times:
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Well the impotant thing is that a first class cabin look like one! It brings the glamour we all miss so much. Plus the lavs seem so much nicer. The UA arragement was quite elaborate and a tad surprising for UA. However I couldn't help but wonder what thier fate was upon arrival in Chicago. It's a pity to destroy them but get the radon why. I could see a FA wanting to take them home or give them to a pax they made friends with.
Hopefully we won't see "flower sur-charges" in the future!



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User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1259 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3591 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
USDA requires all inbound flower products (amongst other stuff like milk, meats, international trash) be removed and incinerated which airline caterers do.

What about the tons of flowers that get shipped by air from the flower markets in AMS frequently to destinations globally???



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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3502 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
Wouldn't it make more sense to use plastic flowers? I mean, I know it's a bit tacky, but it's decor.

IB does that in their lavs.....and yes it looks tacky.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26145 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 18):
What about the tons of flowers that get shipped by air from the flower markets in AMS frequently to destinations globally???

That is air-cargo. OP'er discussion was about products which come in the cabin, or with passengers.

But, even for air-cargo there is certification requirements to ensure shipments are pest free. Over the years I've seen plenty of shipments confiscated and destroyed here in LA with occasional embargos placed on certain producers, countries, or plant varieties.



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User currently offlineTomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

Quoting jetboy757 (Reply 2):
Quoting AA777223 (Reply 18):
What about the tons of flowers that get shipped by air from the flower markets in AMS frequently to destinations globally???

These are grown by growers and distributers who are approved to grow and export flowers. They have special inspection protocols depending on which country they are exported to, and special packaging and handling protocols as well.

Once the products ship, they are issued some sort of conformity certification which travels with the products paperwork.

Next, they may or may not be further inspected by outgoing customs, and when they arrive at the destination, they may or may not be further counter-tested/inspected again by the arriving customs agents. The documents are reviewed, to ensure the grower and distributer are qualified, and that the proper inspections/testing has been carried out, and proper packaging/handling (as applicable) has been undertaken.

Once the products are signed off by customs/USDA.

There is (never say never!) rarely good value in going through the trouble of this sort of handling for a few arrangements, most carriers will buy-and-burn. This practice is rather general, and generally applies for foods and other bio-matter as well (with different testing involved).



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User currently offlineWestjet!Eh! From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

I remember a Canadian Airlines flight attendant carried a bunch of flowers on the plane from Hawaii to Vancouver. I heard that she was going to leave the company.

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2984 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2482 times:
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A semi related question; an FA at United said all the FA's during training are taught how to make napkin sculptures for the Lavs and for the mid-flight snack bar and flower table in First class - does AA and DL and all/any of the others do that?


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User currently offlinedalce From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1721 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Does LH still provide roses to all F & C class pax on their longhaul flights?


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