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EK: $10 Million Loss/day  
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1090 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12837 times:

It seems the Ash will cost Mr. Tim Clark (EK CEO) more than $50,000,000 !!

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZW...evs%20A%20Day%20From%20Disruptions

Would be very interesting to know how much each airline is losing due to the volcano eruption.

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User currently offlineAZA330 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12296 times:

And EK is still partially flying, not like BA, LH and others...

User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12013 times:

Here's a recap of the impact on U.S. airlines that "have a large transatlantic offering".

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

Quote:
As long as European airports remain closed, AirlineFinancials.com estimates the following daily losses for each of the US airlines.

* Delta (DAL) - $10.4 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $6.5 million.
* United (UAUA) - $8.4 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $5.2 million.
* American (AMR) - $7.6 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $4.6 million.
* Continental (CAL) - $5.6 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $3.4 million.
* US Airways (LCC) - $3.7 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $2.2 million.



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User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8572 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11988 times:
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Is EK still running a full schedule on their DXB-Australia/New Zealand routes ? I would imagine that a significant portion( if not the majority ) of the traffic EK carries out of both countries is actually bound for Europe so it would be interesting to know whether they have cut back capacity .


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User currently offlinetimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11920 times:

According to the BBC, the IATA says that BA is losing £25 Million (approx. $38.5 Million) per day. Although, since this is the same figure that BA said they were losing during the strike, with 60% of l/h flights operating, I can't help thinking that this is a wild underestimate.

User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2881 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11214 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 2):
Here's a recap of the impact on U.S. airlines that "have a large transatlantic offering".

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

Quote:
As long as European airports remain closed, AirlineFinancials.com estimates the following daily losses for each of the US airlines.

* Delta (DAL) - $10.4 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $6.5 million.
* United (UAUA) - $8.4 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $5.2 million.
* American (AMR) - $7.6 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $4.6 million.
* Continental (CAL) - $5.6 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $3.4 million.
* US Airways (LCC) - $3.7 million loss in revenue with an operating loss of $2.2 million.

This list is rather surprising. DL being on top is completely understandable, given that DL not only has an extensive network of its own to Northern, Central, AND Eastern Europe but also virtual hubs at CDG and AMS by virtue of extensive codeshare agreements with AF/KL. UA coming in second is very surprising, given its small European footprint (just 10 cities served, 11 if you count MAD) though. I guess all those highly premium aircraft generate more revenue than I thought (versus the 4 competitors that really only fly two cabin a/c) or all those heavies to LHR and FRA compensate for all those 757s that DL, CO, and US send across the pond. I would have thought CO, which has invested a tremendous amount in Northern and Central Europe (Scandinavia, British Isles, Northern Germany) would be in far worse shape than AA or UA, but I guess not.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11053 times:

Quoting AZA330 (Reply 1):
And EK is still partially flying, not like BA, LH and others...

Problem for them is that they don't have much in the way of local traffic. The majority of their traffic is from people connecting through Dubai onto Europe or in reverse.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10934 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 5):
European footprint (just 10 cities served, 11 if you count MAD) though.

...don't forget, UA and LH have JV/ATI so maybe those numbers are added in as well.



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User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9679 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 3):
I would imagine that a significant portion( if not the majority ) of the traffic EK carries out of both countries is actually bound for Europe so it would be interesting to know whether they have cut back capacity .

Good question, I would like to know as well. EK have said they will not load any Europe bound pax excluding ATH until the airspace is opened.

http://emirates.com/au/english/about...l_updates/operational_updates.aspx



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User currently offlineWouterB From Netherlands, joined Oct 2008, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7363 times:

According to Dutch news sources KL is losing about €10 million a day at the moment (approx. $13.4 million). Besides two cargo planes which had succesful 'test' flights, it's cancelled all of its flights.

[Edited 2010-04-19 02:27:44]

User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7266 times:
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Quoting Lumberton (Reply 2):
Here's a recap of the impact on U.S. airlines that "have a large transatlantic offering".

Is there any news on the ash drift towards the Eastern Sea Board? Winds have been carrying the Ash over the atlantic and last time I looked the plume was only about 500 miles of the coast. What is the current forecast?

Sandyb123



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User currently offlinecobra27 From Slovenia, joined May 2001, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6614 times:

Don't be too trustfull to the media figures...

User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2881 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6456 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 10):
Quoting Lumberton (Reply 2):
Here's a recap of the impact on U.S. airlines that "have a large transatlantic offering".

Is there any news on the ash drift towards the Eastern Sea Board? Winds have been carrying the Ash over the atlantic and last time I looked the plume was only about 500 miles of the coast. What is the current forecast?

Sandyb123

Last I saw the ash looks to be going no further than the coast of Newfoundland (YYT is in fact seeing ash-related cancellations). For the sake of our own troubled airline industry and fragile economic recovery, let's hope it stays that way.



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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2484 times:
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Please discuss airline specific volcano issues in one of the following threads:

Volcanic Ash: Flight Disruptions Across Europe #7 (by moderators Apr 19 2010 in Civil Aviation)
Volcanic Ash Cloud To See End Of Airlines (by EZYAirbus Apr 19 2010 in Civil Aviation)

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