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Alitalia Magnifica Reconfig?  
User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5278 times:

Are any avid AZ fans aware of plans to reconfig existing Magnifica seats on the 777? Am flying late June and was wondering if there were plans, between now and then to reconfig the birds.

Will be on AZ610.


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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1907 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

Quoting alitalia744 (Thread starter):
Are any avid AZ fans aware of plans to reconfig existing Magnifica seats on the 777? Am flying late June and was wondering if there were plans, between now and then to reconfig the birds.

Hey!

The first new Magnifica Product will be unveiled in late June with the introduction of the A330 (which is now in the engine/systems hangar at Toulouse already painted)

The 777s should begin the retrofit once the A330s are operative. I believe this will begin by January 2011 (hard guess).

So regarding to your flight, I don't think you'll be flying the new Magnifica unless you book yourself on MXP-NRT starting June, or MXP-MIA-MXP / MXP-JFK-MXP in August!

Hope it helps!

797



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User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

797 thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I'll be flying late June FCO-JFK in so I guess it will be the Recaro recliners.

Has the soft product improved at all? IUsually fly DL J across the pond.



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1907 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

Quoting alitalia744 (Reply 2):
Has the soft product improved at all? IUsually fly DL J across the pond.

As far as I know, the new dining service was introduced a couple months ago. Depending on the season, they change their wine lists and food choices. So yes, you will experience the new catering service they have. If I'm not mistaken, you will enjoy Tuscan area catering, which IMHO is one of the best you can have!

On the bright side, you'll do the 777 which has better seats than the 767 as of right now! I'd encourage you to write a Trip Report, but maybe that's too much to ask  

797



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1907 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4535 times:

By the way, if you want to see a picture of the new A330, go to my website here:

http://svzmspotters.net/new/noticias.php?id=36

Plus, here's the proposed schedule with inaugural flights for the first two brand new A330s, summer 2010:



AZ 786 MXP - NRT
07/11/10 2:00 PM - 07/12/10 9:25 AM
A330

AZ 787 NRT - MXP
07/12/10 12:05 PM - 07/12/10 6:10 PM
A330

--------

AZ 636 MXP - MIA
08/12/10 11:50 AM - 08/12/10 4:50 PM
A330

AZ 637 MIA - MXP
08/12/10 6:30 PM - 08/13/10 10:20 AM
A330

--------

AZ 604 MXP - JFK
08/10/10 1:25 PM - 08/10/10 4:30 PM
A330

AZ 605 JFK - MXP
08/10/10 7:20 PM - 08/11/10 9:30 AM
A330

-------

797



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User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

I was on AZ in March (FCO - BOS - FCO). The A330 had seats with 170 recline, and quite comfortable.

sample menu (Venice region)

Appetizer
sardines and seafood salad
slices of venice style salami
Asiasgo Dop cheese
mashed potaotes and horshradish
spicee pork sausage

1st plate
pasta with red cabbage
or
pasta with tomato/basil

main
venetian cuttlefish
guinea fowl with merlot

vetables
oven roasted potatoes
braised red cabbage
boiled chicory
salad

5 types bread

dessert
egg cream pudding
Venetian Zaleti cookies
fruit

I don't have the wine list, but the wines were good too.

Dave



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1907 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 5):
I was on AZ in March (FCO - BOS - FCO). The A330 had seats with 170 recline, and quite comfortable.

That A330 you flew on has the old Business Class from AirOne. The catering service, however, is the new one I mentioned above.

Those A330s, I believe, will be painted into AZ colors (and fitted with the new Magnifica Class) once the new ones arrive.

There's a thread here I posted a few months ago with the new Magnifica pictures and design.

Cheers



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User currently offlinesammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4257 times:
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Quoting 797 (Reply 4):
By the way, if you want to see a picture of the new A330, go to my website here:

http://svzmspotters.net/new/noticias.php?id=36

Plus, here's the proposed schedule with inaugural flights for the first two brand new A330s, summer 2010:

Do you know if the A330 will eventually serve Newark?


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4189 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 6):
Those A330s, I believe, will be painted into AZ colors (and fitted with the new Magnifica Class) once the new ones arrive.

You're correct. At least when I flew, was still AirOne paint (and parts of uniforms oddly). I think Flyertalk has an AZ page with updates on Magnifica, but like AZ, a bit hard to decipher at times.

Dave



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1907 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

Quoting sammyk (Reply 7):
Do you know if the A330 will eventually serve Newark?

Probably.

As of right now, the two new A330s will be based in MXP. From there, they'll serve NRT, MIA, and JFK.

Later on, as the remaining 8 A330s arrive, they will substitute the 6 763s they have and maybe so, send them to EWR from FCO.

The long-haul fleet will then be composed of 10 772s, 12 A332s, and by 2014 (allegedly) 10 A350s.

Quoting davescj (Reply 8):
At least when I flew, was still AirOne paint (and parts of uniforms oddly).

Yes. This has been an issue over with the AZ frequent flyers, as they see everything as AirOne, but in realty AZ is operating the flight.

It's been discussed whether a complete merger will occur, and it was even discarded at the beginning of this alliance. However, last week I heard that some of the A320s in AP's fleet will be painted into AZ colors, and all the new A320s arriving from TLS are wearing AZ colors as well... Seems like they finally decided to bring them both together and strengthen as a single carrier.

AZ is doing extremely good. As a matter of fact, they were the most punctual airline in Europe for the first quarter of 2010. No delays! In addition, they're making profit, which is something that they never saw for 30+ years.

I am confident they'll become a strong and beautiful carrier.

797



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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4015 times:
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I was looking for the thread about LAX being re-instated? What is the start date? Will they be using the 77E on this flight?

Are the 763s being put into storage?


User currently offlinejanmnastami From Italy, joined Apr 2008, 828 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 9):
In addition, they're making profit

AZ made profits just in the third quarter (if I remember correctly), but in 2009 it lost about 300 million euro.


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1907 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
Are the 763s being put into storage?

Negative.

The 767s that are no longer with AZ were returned to the lessor and some of them are now with TAM and Varig. The remaining ones I believe only 5 of those are leased and one is owned, so I believe once they are retired they will go to another airline.

Quoting janmnastami (Reply 11):
AZ made profits just in the third quarter (if I remember correctly), but in 2009 it lost about 300 million euro.

True, but that loss was totally expected. The company was bleeding out and a recovery wan't sought but after at least a year of operations... and that's what ended up happening!



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User currently offlineairdolomiti From Germany, joined May 2003, 694 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
I was looking for the thread about LAX being re-instated? What is the start date? Will they be using the 77E on this flight?

Flights to LAX start on June 5, and yes, they will be operated with 777s   This is the schedule:

AZ620 FCO-LAX 09:25-13:35 1-34-67
AZ621 LAX-FCO 15:25-12:15+1 1-34-67


User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3697 times:
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Quoting airdolomiti (Reply 13):
Flights to LAX start on June 5, and yes, they will be operated with 777s This is the schedule:

AZ620 FCO-LAX 09:25-13:35 1-34-67
AZ621 LAX-FCO 15:25-12:15+1 1-34-67

Thank you for the information, airdolomiti. I apreciate it. I hope LAX works out for AZ this time around. If the 777 capacity ends up being too much, can AZ utilize their 332s on the FCO-LAX-FCO without substantial penalty?


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Quoting laca773 (Reply 14):
Thank you for the information, airdolomiti. I apreciate it. I hope LAX works out for AZ this time around. If the 777 capacity ends up being too much, can AZ utilize their 332s on the FCO-LAX-FCO without substantial penalty?

Los Angeles-Rome is the fifth most traveled city pair between the U.S. and Italy after the NYC/MIA-MIL/ROM pairs. It is definitely not too much capacity - the market is actually quite large but there is barely any premium traffic to speak of.



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User currently offlinejanmnastami From Italy, joined Apr 2008, 828 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3492 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 12):
but that loss was totally expected.

Yes, it was expected   .


User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

Thanks for the replies folks. Looks like meal service has improved vs historical which is hopeful.

Flying in a few months, may post a TR at the end of the trip. Taking DL out, AZ back.



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