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NatGeo's "Cut It In Half" Chops Up A 727  
User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18081 times:

Sunday Apr 25, NatGeo will premiere a series called, "Cut It In Half." They will dissect a 727 in order to show the public just how sturdy an airplanes is. During the commercial for it, I was able to get a glance at the reg. number, but not what company it used to be with. It was N8311, and that's all I could see of it. The airplane has a blue tail and a faded blue stripe running down the fuselage. Was this a Ron Allen DL bird?

[Edited 2010-04-24 13:03:42]


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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 17842 times:

If it is an ex-DL 727 in the Ron Allen livery, it's probably N831L (DL never registered any 727s with 8XXX registrations. They had some with N16XX registrations back in the late 70s.).


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User currently offlineplanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6148 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17668 times:

Now this what is really called "cutting it in half"!!!!!!



Here is the link to the show's site...
http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...in-half/4638/Overview#tab-Overview



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17559 times:

That's odd that they changed the N-number from N831L to N8311.


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17396 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 3):
That's odd that they changed the N-number from N831L to N8311.

Especially since a search show that N-number is registered to a PT-17 in Florida and that a/c has held the same registration since 1985. The former DL N-number is now shown to be on a Phantom X-1 ultralight/light sport a/c.


User currently onlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14811 times:

Wow. So sad to see something I worked on a lot of years end up that way. Its also sad because, N831L was one of the few Ex WAL 727's that I had proof that my Father worked on at WAL and I worked on at DAL  

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7567 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13373 times:

N831L 21826

Western Airlines 1979 1987
Delta Air Lines 1987 2001
ST Goodyear 2001 to date.

I hate to see an aircraft end of this way, but seriously, after 9 years in the desert it was going to be Beer Cans


User currently offlinephileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13295 times:

well... the host IS holding an issue of Delta's Sky inflight magazine...   

User currently offlinemhockey31091 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 11220 times:
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The pictures on the National Geographic website show a fairly new First Class I think?

User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 10867 times:

Quoting mhockey31091 (Reply 8):
The pictures on the National Geographic website show a fairly new First Class I think?

That's what it looks like to me. But I thought they removed all seats and anything that wasn't recyclable when it got to the scrapyard. It looks like they left everything in that jet, as if they had just retired it 2 weeks ago.



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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 10559 times:

Quoting phileet92 (Reply 7):
well... the host IS holding an issue of Delta's Sky inflight magazine...

...from 2001.  
Quoting mhockey31091 (Reply 8):
The pictures on the National Geographic website show a fairly new First Class I think?

That's the coach cabin. They had cloth seats in 2001...

Quoting c5load (Reply 9):
But I thought they removed all seats and anything that wasn't recyclable when it got to the scrapyard. It looks like they left everything in that jet, as if they had just retired it 2 weeks ago.

A lot of planes go out to the desert with seats still in them. It's why every now and then you see the old UA interiors pop up in Africa or something like that. Not sure DL has a need for the old 727 interiors...I remember the L10s I saw in VCV still had seats and everything else in them.


User currently offlinemhockey31091 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10169 times:
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Quoting chrisair (Reply 10):
Quoting mhockey31091 (Reply 8):
The pictures on the National Geographic website show a fairly new First Class I think?

That's the coach cabin. They had cloth seats in 2001...

The 9th picture is not of a cloth seat, take a look at it!


User currently onlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 9888 times:

The F/C seat in the 9th picture was the last interior in the DAL 727. It had blue Leather with cloth inlays in FC and the blue cloth in Y. I still remember the first time I walked into a DAL 727 with the lime green, red and orange seat covers and red carpet. That was bright and it was 1991. The seat stayed with the airplane when it went to the desert. In fact all the retired aircraft I saw when I went up to VCV and MOV had the full interiors.

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 9776 times:

Quoting mhockey31091 (Reply 11):
The 9th picture is not of a cloth seat, take a look at it!

I wasn't looking at those photos. I was looking at the photo linked in post 8.


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 9499 times:
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UA 737 N366UA seen in the background.

Also, in the segment where they demonstrate seat pitch, the tourist dude has a Minolta Maxxum 7000 with a 50mm lens. As a Minolta system user I got a chuckle out of that.



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User currently offlinecf6ppe From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 9223 times:

This is a really clean demolition of a former passenger aircraft...

For those of you that really love and/or like those airframes, the above linked pictures aren't what it really looks like. Scrapping is really a messy process and not a really pretty sight.

I was once given a packet of 8 x 10 inch photos of an aircraft that had been torn apart/scrapped - i.e., demolitionized. There were several parked aircraft that were to be scrapped. After viewing the previous mentioned photo packet, I just asked that I be notified that the aircraft had been scrapped and nothing more.

If you like airplanes like it do, I just didn't want to see the torn up mess; it was upsetting to me... and it is like the death of a 20 or 35 or so year old friend....


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9139 times:

Quoting cf6ppe (Reply 16):

Its actually an amazing process and very graphic audibly...the best descrpition of what it sounds like is exactly what you would expect to hear when two elephants are in a china shop. I filmed fout Tower 747's being chopped up. The broken chips of alloy dropping to the ground sound like raining glass while the airframe thunders and bounces, shaking the ground...g


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8959 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 8985 times:

Cutting the freakin' cabin in half is utterly uninteresting. It's not like they exposed anything worth examining.


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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 8959 times:

Quoting cf6ppe (Reply 16):
After viewing the previous mentioned photo packet, I just asked that I be notified that the aircraft had been scrapped and nothing more.

If you like airplanes like it do, I just didn't want to see the torn up mess; it was upsetting to me... and it is like the death of a 20 or 35 or so year old friend....

I agree. There's something really upsetting about seeing aircraft like these being torn up. I'm not at all against what these guys did, it's just not my thing. I honestly think I would break down if I saw QX Fokker's being torn up as that aircraft has been practically ingrained in my DNA. It is a trivial thing to be sad about, but I can't help it. It can most certainly be like the death of an old friend.

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport


User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 8910 times:

Of course its sad to see classic, loved, aircraft like the 727 being cut up but remember that these aircraft are old and their time has come. Not all aircraft can end up preserved in a museum. Even those brand spanking new A380s will someday end up being broken down in a scrapyard. Nothing lasts forever, even NW's DC-9s will (eventually) die. (Or will they?  )


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User currently offlineatcsundevil From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 1199 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 8636 times:

Cool show, but what a sad sight! It is interesting actually seeing the makeup of the wing, fuselage, etc. instead of just looking at them on a diagram. At the same time, each one of those cuts made me wince a little bit. I remember flying the old DL 727s, and even though I like the newer aircraft, you can't help but respect the old ones. They had it over at GYR too; I live in the east valley and I would have gladly come take it off their hands! I'd turn it into a party house out in the desert or something hah. Regardless...interesting topic, interesting to see the guts of an airplane, sad to see an old dinosaur meet its boogey man.


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User currently offlinekatwspotter From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 8232 times:

I watched the show last night and thought they did an excellent job of explaining the process what what all the parts (i.e slats, flaps, tires, etc) did. They even went as far as explaining in explaining weight and balance with fuel and which animals go where in the bins. Finally a show where the information about airplanes was decently accurate haha.  


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