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User currently offlineAM From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 590 posts, RR: 2
Posted (15 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1032 times:

I know this topic has already been discussed, but no replies were allowed anymore so I'm starting it as a new topic.
It's been said that the new Mexico City International Airport is very likely to be built in the state of Hidalgo, but there's also plans to build the new MEX in Texcoco, which is a few miles northeast of the actual airport. This location is much more convenient, since it's closer to Mexico City than Pachuca, Hidalgo. Texcoco is also better than building additional runways or terminals in the existing airport, because there's simply no space to do so. Please share your opinions regarding the Texcoco plan. Thanks a lot in advance.


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User currently offlineLeoDF From Mexico, joined Aug 1999, 359 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (15 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 950 times:

Que paso? Al fin encuentro a otra persona mexicana que le gustan los aviones. That's good!!

Bueno mira mi opinion te la doy con todo gusto. Mexico City airport, if built in Hidalgo will be a completely fraud. Porque? Porque esta muy lejos de la ciudad y en cambio si en construido en Texcoco seria un aeropuerto alterno, una buena opcion, mas a parte los planes de desarollo son tambien buenos. Tener 2 aeropuertos en el DF seria sensacional, como entusiasta de la aviacion mexicana me encantaria.

Bueno espero te haya agradado y pues espero veas mis fotos en este mismo site, y me des un comentario respecto a ellas...

Muchas gracias!!! Y de nuevo que bueno que hay personas mexicanas interesadas por el futuro de su pais!!

A. De Leo alias LEODF



Lloyd Aereo Boliviano
User currently offlineAM From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (15 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 948 times:

Leo, que tal?
Claro que he visto tus fotos en esta pagina, estan geniales!
Oye, igualmente, que bien conocer a alguien de mi pais que le gusta la aviación comercial.
No estaría excelente tener un aeropuerto mas en el DF? El AICM actual, aunque quedó muy bien después de la remodelación, ya no tiene capacidad para tanto vuelo que está llegando. Ojalá ya se empiece con el nuevo aeropuerto, y no se esperen hasta el último momento. Oye, sabes la fecha exacta en que AeroMexico recibe el 747-300? Tengo que ir a verlo, va a ser algo único.
Muchas gracias Leo!



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User currently offlineLeoDF From Mexico, joined Aug 1999, 359 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 943 times:

Pues mira lamento desilusionarte, pero hable con un amigo mio piloto de Aeromexico e insisitio en que el 747 ya no. O sea si hubo planes pero no pudieron llegar a un acuerdo con los pilotos a parte de que vieron que no les convenia entonces creeme que yo tambien esperaba con mucho entusiasmo la llegada, pero desafortunadamente no se nos va a hacer. Que lastima la verdad!!!!

Por cierto cuantos años tienes?

LeoDF



Lloyd Aereo Boliviano
User currently offlineJOSEMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 936 times:

Hola LeoDF y AM. Yo tambien vivo en MEX. En cuanto a los planes del Aeropuerto en Hidalgo, me aterra el pensar que, efectivamente, pongan el aeropuerto hasta alla. Esta lejisimos, y aunque nos prometan que van a poner accesos, transporte, etc., seguramente resultara insuficiente, pues la magnitud de la infraestructura necesaria para que el aeropuerto sea accesible de manera conveniente es enorme. No creo que se resuelva solamente poniendo una autopista de varios carriles (que, seguramente, sera carisima y estara siempre con agujeros, en reparacion, o con bloqueos). Ademas, aunque la autopista quedara muy bien, habra que atravesar toda la ciudad para llegar a ella.

Otra desventaja: si pasan la mayoria de las operaciones internacionales para alla, ya no veremos pasar por encima mas que DC-9 y 727/A320. Adios 747s, 767s, etc.

Saludos, Jose MEX


User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1213 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 933 times:
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Soy brasilero radicado en EUA pero es un placer conocer aficionados de la aviacion comercial ubicados en Mexico. Saludos companeros.

For the sake of the other participants in this forum, and using what for better or for worse is the lingua franca of commercial aviation, which I prefer to call Canadian (nice and neutral!), I don't see any action on a new MEX airport until the eventual ownership situation of Mexicana and AeroMexico are fully defined. This may take several more months. At this juncture it would probably be cheaper to buy existing homes/buildings/property around Benito Juarez than to be talking about building new access roads, etc. What do you think? As new aircraft get quieter, and DC-10 and 727's get retired would keeping the current location be that bad?

Any opinions about just biting the bullet and expanding the current facility considering its good location?



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User currently offlineJpintoa From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 923 times:

Leo:

Hola, como estas, yo creo que devemos de impulsar mas MEX, ya como lo he dicho muchas veces, MEX es la puerta de entrada a America Latina, y no puede ser que le den mas importancia a Brazil o Argentina que no tienen buen comercio en el Mundo que Mexico, y tampoco que tengan mejor equipo que nuestras lineas mexicanas

Saludos, jpintoa

 


User currently offlineJpintoa From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 918 times:

LeoDF, AM y Jose:

Hola, yo creo que nos deveriamos unir para impulsar la aviacion mexicana, ya como lo he dicho antes es la puerta hacia America Latina y su ubicacion geografica la hacen perfecto para que sea un centro de operaciones mundial, como es el caso de LAX, MIA y JFK o el de Sao Paulo Santiango y Buenos Aires

¿Que creen de esto?, escriban mas aqui para ver lo que podemos hacer

 


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 913 times:

Hmm, well seeing that most replies are in spanish I'll write one in spanish too, but I'll write one in english too.

En mi opinion el nuevo AICM deberia estar en Hidalgo, aunque Texcoco esta mas cerca es una zona ecologica muy delicada !! aparte que la zona es afectada comunmente por neblina, a diferencia de Texcoco, en Tizayuca, Hidalgo el clima es mucho mas apropiado para un aeropuerto ya que es seco, aparte que orograficamente las condiciones tambien son mejores, cierto, esta mucho mas lejos que texcoco, pero hay que recordar que la mayoria de los aeropuertos nuevos estan lejisimos de las ciudades que sirven, como son el de Oslo, Tokyo-Narita, etc etc. Creo que con un aeropuerto nuevo, AeroMexico y Mexicana podrian crear un hub my importante para latinoamerica.

Ok, now in english   The Texcoco option, while closer to the city would damage a very sensitive area (ecologically speaking) apart from that the area is very fog prone wich would not help with delays and such, on the other hand, the Hidalgo option, while much further away from the city, is perfect climatically speaking as it is a very dry climate and it would provide bigger growth oportunities, also, the terrain around the airport is much more apropriate ! it may be a bit far from the city, but not farther away than airports like Oslo's Gardermoen or Tokyo's Narita.. When the new Mexico City airport is built it will certainly become one of (if not THE) most important hub for latin america.


User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 908 times:
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OK, I clicked on this topic because I was interested to know about MEX. Unfortunately just about everything that was said was in Spanish   Could you guys, for the benefit of the non-Spanish speaking population please post in English, or both...?? Thanks.

Sammy


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Yeah I guess that to non spanish speakers it must be kind of weird, so I'll sort of write up a brief explanation of the whole issue..

as some of the people who've been to MEX have probably noticed, it is by now grossly inadecuate for the traffic needs of Mexico City and it offers absolutley no growth potential, although it has been renovated and it is nice, operationally, the twin runways are too close to offer the possibility of dual operations and there is only 1 long main taxiway, all this added to the fact that by now, urban sprawl has grown all around the airport and of course, this turns it into a potential safety hazard.
For many years there has been debate over where to build the new airport and now it is narrowed down to 2 options.. Texcoco, east of the current airport, the benefit of this area is that it is close to Mexico City, however as I said before, these are wetlands and building an airport here would be terrible for the environment, add this to the fact that the ground is not suitable for a contruction such as an airport as it is very soft. Also, if the new airport were built in Texcoco, the current MEX would have to close because of conflicting flight paths.
The other option is in the state of Hidalgo, north of Mexico City, this is far away from the city, however it is pretty much open land for miles and miles so it is the ideal site to build a new airport, it fits all the criteria of an ideal airport site.. if the new airport were built here there would be no need for the current airport to close and it could still be used for domestic operations and such. Of course.. this would probably mean some cost to airlines like Mexicana or AeroMexico that would have to operate from both airports, but I think the hub capabilities of the new airport would greatly outweigh the negatives of operating two airports.


User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 898 times:
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Thank you very much SR117!! I took a little trip to MEX back in '98 and found it very interesting, and always like to read about it.

Thanks again.

Sammy


User currently offlineJpintoa From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (14 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 889 times:

Who knows where can I look for all the airplanes on MEX and listen to the airplanes?

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