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DAL 273 Diverts To Bangor, Today 4/27  
User currently offlineFlyClearNR From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 10137 times:

Just saw a headline cross about DAL 273 from CDG to ATL diverted to Bangor due to a "passenger disturbance" and just landed a few minutes ago. FlighAware seems to confirm. Does anyone have any more information? Thanks.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL273

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User currently offlineScotland1979 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 548 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9971 times:
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Yeah, just saw it on CNN awhile ago.


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User currently offlineMSN007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9947 times:

Someone twitted CNN's Rick's List that was Airbus A320. I wish some people just don't say anything.

User currently offlinejonstock From UK - England, joined Oct 2008, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9888 times:
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36807783/ns/us_news-security/

According to MSNBC the aircraft is an A320; clearly it's a A330-300 from the video. I wish they would double check information before "breaking" the story. It just makes me wonder what other information the media receives gets construed.


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9768 times:

Quoting jonstock (Reply 3):
According to MSNBC the aircraft is an A320; clearly it's a A330-300 from the video. I wish they would double check information before "breaking" the story. It just makes me wonder what other information the media receives gets construed.

They must have switched it all since your post because the article and the video call it an "An Airbus A330, the workhorse of the Delta Fleet" - which is inaccurate as well.


User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9530 times:

This is just too costly...


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User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9512 times:

Now they're saying he was an American

FAMs onboard!



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User currently offlineTan Flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9378 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
They must have switched it all since your post because the article and the video call it an "An Airbus A330, the workhorse of the Delta Fleet" - which is inaccurate as well.

The media are just dumber than a drum of motor oil... they just refuse to take an extra 3 min. to get the facts straight.


User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9277 times:

OK now we know....
A white American male made an off the wall comment using the word bomb....
The FAs overheard they told the FAMs who broke cover and ordered a diversion...
Just another day in the US aviation

[Edited 2010-04-27 14:26:40]


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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9239 times:

Rick Sanchez admitted that he got bombarded with tweets telling him that it was an A330. Also, why do they call it an Airbus 330? I mean, since we are all cool and stuff, (grin), we understand each other when we say, 744, or 333, or 73, or what have you, but it sounds weird to me when he calls it a "330."

At any rate, passengers said that there was no commotion that they heard. At about 12:30PM Eastern time, somewhere over the Atlantic, the pilot came over the PA and asked people to return to their seats and fasten their seat belts due to expected turbulence. The turbulence never came, and then about 15 people in the back rows were moved up to the front of the economy class section (which was described as being fairly empty), and a gentleman of "Mediterranean" looking origin was placed back there. Passengers were asked to hand over their pillows and blankets to F/A's and some seat cushions were removed from empty seats, supposedly to baracade the trouble-causing passenger. They were then told over the PA that there had been a security breach on the flight, and that a passenger did not have the "proper documentation" and the flight would be landing in Boston. However, they changed their destination en route to Bangor.


Sorry, that is me trying to relay what I heard on CNN while Rick Sanchez was talking to a passenger on the flight.

UAL


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 9149 times:

So FAMs can order a diversion? Despite the captain being PIC and having final authority, can that authority be overruled in the name of national security or something like that? Just curious.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4086 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 9117 times:

There's got to be a real good reason for it, but why can't the passengers deplane and go through customs/immigration in Bangor instead of Atlanta? I know that BGR has the infrastructure and must deal with this on a routine basis due to all the troop charters coming through there on DC-10s, MD-11s, etc.

I know it would mean the off-loading of luggage and then putting it back on again, but the plane has been in Bangor for two hours now anyway and I'll bet there are people on board who are asking the same question I am. Could they do all that in two hours? I'll bet they could.


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 9038 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 11):
I know it would mean the off-loading of luggage and then putting it back on again, but the plane has been in Bangor for two hours now anyway and I'll bet there are people on board who are asking the same question I am. Could they do all that in two hours? I'll bet they could.

In 2002 I was flying FRA-DFW on AA. There was a "medical emergency" on board and we were diverted to GLA. The woman refused a heart monitor, and in the end, did not want to get off the plane, but she was taken by authorities and medical personnel.

They did a full bomb sweep, removed baggage, and replaced it, brought on bomb sniffing dogs, and went through our carry-on luggage. We were on the ground in GLA for about 3 hours for the whole ordeal including the refuel after dumping quite a bit of fuel. Turned an 11 hour journey into a 14 hour flight.

Sort of felt weird after that and felt happy when we touched down at DFW.

Lots of things can be done in 2-3 hours if you have enough manpower.

Edit: The guy's last name is Stansberry, an Floridian-American.

UAL

[Edited 2010-04-27 14:55:22]

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4086 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8997 times:

Further to my query above, Boston.com now reports that passengers DID get off the plane to clear customs/immigration. That's good and helps all around (authorities probably needed to sweep through the plane anyway).

User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3383 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8956 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 11):
I know it would mean the off-loading of luggage and then putting it back on again, but the plane has been in Bangor for two hours now anyway and I'll bet there are people on board who are asking the same question I am. Could they do all that in two hours? I'll bet they could.

You can unload one end of the A330 in about 10-15 minutes.



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User currently online747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3510 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 8692 times:

Wow, do DL A333 just atracts nuts! Well thank god it landed safely.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4086 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8461 times:

FlightAware now shows that this A330 will fly from Bangor down to Boston rather than to Atlanta. Not sure what that's all about, but it also appears that the plane has been up in Maine for a lot longer than expected.

User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8391 times:
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Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 16):
FlightAware now shows that this A330 will fly from Bangor down to Boston rather than to Atlanta. Not sure what that's all about, but it also appears that the plane has been up in Maine for a lot longer than expected.

Probably crew time issues after a 2 hour ground stop in BGR. They can clear the pax through immigration and customs at Logan, then figure out the best way to get everyone to their final destination, which may be tomorrow.


User currently onlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2300 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7899 times:

Does anyone know if it was the same DL A330 that was involved in another incident back on Christmas day?


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User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7694 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 15):
Wow, do DL A333 just atracts nuts!

I was thinking the same thing. Poor DL.   



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User currently offlineskoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 7400 times:

Anybody know why this aircraft appears to still be on the ground in Bangor?

User currently offlinewestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 7139 times:

Quoting skoker (Reply 20):
on the ground in Bangor?

CNN.com says Delta opted to overnight the pax and fly them out on the same aircraft.



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User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 7068 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 9):
Rick Sanchez admitted that he got bombarded with tweets telling him that it was an A330. Also, why do they call it an Airbus 330? I mean, since we are all cool and stuff, (grin), we understand each other when we say, 744, or 333, or 73, or what have you, but it sounds weird to me when he calls it a "330."

Because people who aren't familiar with aircraft probably think that "A330" equals "Airbus 330" and don't know that the A in A330 is part of the model number. They probably also think that all passenger aircraft are denoted by "letter of manufacturer" "three-digit code" and all "fighter jets" are "type" "2 digit code" because that's generally how it works out for common types. I think it would be an easy mistake to make considering that Boeing aircraft (whom people in the US are a lot more familiar with) are referred to (correctly) by their model designator I.E. "Look mommy, its a 747" or "Southwest only flies 737s" which does not include the "B" as part of the model number (although they are sometimes referred to as B737 which is just a shortening of Boeing). Given the above I don't mind this so much, what bothers me and I think the rest of the A.net community so much is that stories like this almost always name a model, but get it wrong, often after researching it. I just don't understand how it can happen when you can just google it in 2 seconds.

Also consider that to most people these things are minutiae of the smallest variety and any attempt to correct them would be met with indifference. For example, to me trains are just trains... I probably couldn't identify a particular locomotive by sight but there are railfans out there that care about it and could.

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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 864 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 7034 times:

What route was the aircraft scheduled to fly from Atlanta, if any? Does DL keep any extra planes in storage in ATL? It looks a flight to AMS, scheduled for an A330-200, was changed to a 747, although I don't know if this was related to the diversion.


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User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 6940 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 18):
Does anyone know if it was the same DL A330 that was involved in another incident back on Christmas day?

That was N820NW, this was N812NW.


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Quoting Aviation Herold:
A Delta Airlines Airbus A330-300, registration N812NW performing flight DL-273 from Paris Charles de Gaulle (France) to Atlanta,GA (USA) with 235 passengers and 8 crew, was enroute at FL360 about 350nm east of Bangor,ME (USA) and about 160nm northeast of Halifax, when the crew decided to divert to Bangor due to an unruly passenger on board, who prompted air marshals on board to take action. The airplane landed safely about one hour later.

US officials reported, that the male passenger claimed to have a fake passport and explosives in his luggage. The passenger was taken into custody after landing and is currently being interviewed, the airplane is being searched. Authorities believe the passport is authentic.

So he's an idiot.



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25 mayor : I thought this was to pickup up pax that were stranded because of the volcano in Iceland?
26 Post contains images redtailsforever : It does seem like wannabe terrorist have it in for Delta A330's. I miss the old Northwest colors on them compared to Delta but geezz! Some people like
27 NIKV69 : I would bet Federal Air Marshalls have say over the captain.
28 PH-TVH : Anybody know why this aircraf I seriously dare to doubt that statement.... As far as flight execution and flight safety, the Captain has the final aut
29 thegreatRDU : For all we this guy could have just made an off the wall statement like "Bro did you see that blonde-haired girl at the club last night? she was the b
30 web500sjc : my assumption would be that the captin has the final athuority in regards to saftey and the FAM in regards to security where saftey trumps security.
31 Post contains links Airportugal310 : flight now finally enroute to ATL, dep 130p arr 4p as DL9901 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9901
32 fca767 : Didn't it happen yesterday? lol...I see a new flight from Paris to Atlanta today that's nearly landed too
33 Post contains images Airportugal310 : Thats probably why they had to re-number to 9901
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