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United Airlines Paint Scheme?  
User currently offlinemy1le From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34662 times:

I am not sure if this topic has been brought up prior, I couldn't find the answer...

Is United Airlines (UA) still painting aircraft in the new colors? Unlike Delta or the others, it seems UA is taking plenty of time to transfer over from the Gray scheme to the White and Blue.

This photo makes me believe that UA simply doesn't care.



Thank you,
My1le

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User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4296 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34613 times:

I saw this on the home page as well and I knew there would be a thread about it.

You will undoubtedly get your posters who say that its just paint and it is not reflective of the maintenance of the aircraft. That may well be true and I'm sure this B757 is perfectly safe.

However you also say that "UA simply doesn't care" and that's the message I get too. I think letting the aircraft deteriorate to this degree, cosmetic or otherwise, is disgraceful. As a passenger, it would make me seriously wonder what else UA is skimping on and I would not want to board a plane that looks like this (although I probably wouldn't refuse.) It looks like it was sitting unused at some Caribbean airport for the past decade and not in regular use.



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5811 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34574 times:

Whew! Not good for United's image at all The titling is barely readable. Looks like something from a graveyard.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26147 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34552 times:

Here is updated list with repaints.
United Existing Fleet Upgrade Status (by United787 Apr 15 2010 in Civil Aviation)

Simply put, unlike DL and US which were part of mergers and wanted to get a new image out there, United is not doing repaints outside of regular scheduled heavy maintenance checks which as a result draws out the process many more years.



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User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34524 times:

Maybe UA used this aircraft as a test plane to fly through the ash cloud. Because it sure looks like it took a beating.
  

All joking aside. At first I thought it was kinda neat how long it was taking them to repaint their planes. I personally really like the gray livery (as well as the old wavy gravy Delta ones. Liked them much better than the current one  &nbsp  ) I can only surmise that maybe this aircraft is due for maintenance sometime soon and they plan on repainting it then. If I saw this plane at my gate I'd be disappointed.



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User currently offlineadambrau From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34489 times:

I must say as a longtime UA enthusiast the outward appearance of this aircraft is pretty awful, and can't really help United's image all that much. United does seem slow on the repainting of the fleet, some have mentioned that it is tied to normal repainting intervals of the aircraft and not rushed to roll out the 'new' 4 year old paint scheme, but in anycase this is clearly an example of where things have been left a little too long. I mean you can hardly read the name United Airlines. Then again on an aircraft that looks like this, maybe you don't want anyone to know  

User currently offlineAIRBORNE1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 34345 times:

Give them a break! The recession and the economy paints a plane so fast. United, is doing this
as the aircraft goes into hanger with the big checks. United has a good history with FAA and all on
Mtnc. It's all in the process. The new merge things will really move now mostly likely.


User currently offlinehnl-jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 34173 times:

Quoting AIRBORNE1 (Reply 6):
Give them a break! The recession and the economy paints a plane so fast. United, is doing this
as the aircraft goes into hanger with the big checks. United has a good history with FAA and all on
Mtnc. It's all in the process. The new merge things will really move now mostly likely.


As a former employee, although a long time ago, you would have never seen a UA aircraft in this condition in the past. It doesn't say a lot about the pride the company takes in its appearance which could be missconstrued by the public to represent other aspects of the airline and its concern for customers. It's like having the entryway to your home trashed, but once inside the home is fine. All your visitors will remember is their first impression. I understand the issue, but someone at UA should be taking a look and determining when an aircraft can no longer wait for heavy maintenance to go in for paint.



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User currently offlinegoldenstate From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 583 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 34100 times:
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Quoting hnl-jack (Reply 7):

As a former employee, although a long time ago, you would have never seen a UA aircraft in this condition in the past. It doesn't say a lot about the pride the company takes in its appearance which could be missconstrued by the public to represent other aspects of the airline and its concern for customers. It's like having the entryway to your home trashed, but once inside the home is fine.

There is a lot of merit to what you are saying and I don't necessarily think you are wrong, but research has shown that cabin interior cleanliness and appearance is much more important to customers than aircraft exteriors.


User currently offlineAirCanadaA330 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 33969 times:

Quoting goldenstate (Reply 8):
but research has shown that cabin interior cleanliness and appearance is much more important to customers than aircraft exteriors.

I think thats a fair statement, I mean I dont care what the outside looks like....Im more concerned about the interior of the aircraft.



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User currently offlineOEH68 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 33900 times:

I'm not sure this pic is real, looks a little fake to me.


OEH68
User currently offlineORDnHKG From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 33800 times:

Quoting hnl-jack (Reply 7):
As a former employee, although a long time ago, you would have never seen a UA aircraft in this condition in the past.

Actually, not really, even back in 98, the transition from the white theme to the blue and grey theme, especially to the DC10, many of them had the red stripes turn into light pink.

Quoting AIRBORNE1 (Reply 6):
Give them a break! The recession and the economy paints a plane so fast. United, is doing this as the aircraft goes into hanger with the big checks. United has a good history with FAA and all on
Mtnc. It's all in the process. The new merge things will really move now mostly likely.

I agree, look at OZ's fleet, a renowed 5 star airline, how many of their planes still in old color ?

OZ only has 69 planes in total compare with UA has 359 planes. OZ doesn't even have half of what UA has, but still didn't finish repainting all of them !


User currently offlineDLMD90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 33648 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Simply put, unlike DL and US which were part of mergers and wanted to get a new image out there, United is not doing repaints outside of regular scheduled heavy maintenance checks which as a result draws out the process many more years.

Simply put, it's one thing to not convert your entire fleet to same livery, but it's quite another to let one fly around looking like this, and I think it does speak volumes for the pride of the airline. You know Delta would never allow one of there planes to fly around like this.


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 33633 times:

Quoting DLMD90 (Reply 12):
You know Delta would never allow one of there planes to fly around like this.

???

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...d=54b4eeb0593685e38d35fe95fd38a97a



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User currently offlineDLMD90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 33608 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 13):

well where's the rest of it? that's just the nose.


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 33555 times:

Quoting AirCanadaA330 (Reply 9):
Quoting goldenstate (Reply 8):
but research has shown that cabin interior cleanliness and appearance is much more important to customers than aircraft exteriors.

I think thats a fair statement, I mean I dont care what the outside looks like....Im more concerned about the interior of the aircraft.

Unfortunately many UA planes have shabby interiors as well...


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4593 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 33564 times:

I can say with certainty, that you'll never any AA aircraft with as much peeling paint as that UA 757  

User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 33549 times:

Here:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...d=38eab3c179611909bbc4fb596e812d33



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User currently offlinedvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1753 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 33505 times:
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Quoting OEH68 (Reply 10):
I'm not sure this pic is real, looks a little fake to me.

I've seen this ship several times; it's as bad as it looks.



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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 33431 times:
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Quoting OEH68 (Reply 10):
I'm not sure this pic is real, looks a little fake to me.

It's real, okay.

I saw this ship last Monday as UA 972 (SFO-ORD) at SFO.

At least, that means there's nothng wrong with the engines and the tires  


User currently offlineatomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 33425 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 13):
Quoting DLMD90 (Reply 12):
You know Delta would never allow one of there planes to fly around like this.

???

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...d=54b4eeb0593685e38d35fe95fd38a97a

I'm sure most airlines, especially large ones, have planes that look a bit ragged from time to time... Here are some DL 757s.


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User currently offlineAIRBORNE1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 33096 times:

Good call with the Delta plane... American doesn't show because they don't even paint the planes.
I worked for AA for 12 years myself. So you can't compare AA with UAL or Delta. They don't paint airplanes.

United will be painting this plane when the heavy checks come into play. It cost millions to take an aircraft out of
service to please the United haters on this board. As said before it's coming. Maybe Friday or Sunday is the
announcement of the new United merge with CO.


User currently offlineFutureATP From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 32761 times:

One of the reasons its taking so long is because of TED. Im not sure if any of those 320s were ever delivered new in the TED scheme. But all their ex Ted 320s would on their 3nd paint job if not delivered new in TED colors. A company can only budget/schedule X-amount of aircraft out of the fleet at one time. The Ted fleet (over half of the total UA 320 fleet I think) has taken a big chunk out of that. Also the retirement of the 737s im sure would also have a made a scheduling crunch for pulling aircraft for repaints.

Hey, any of you UA guys now what is up with ship# 5409 (N509UA 757-200) paint job! . It has been in the new blue and white scheme ever since UA started to rotate 757s back through PHX last Nov. It appears as if it has been on fire at one time! The paint on the fuselage above the left wing has been discolored and is peeling and bubbling heat damage look to it. Has been like that ever since I first saw it. Just curious.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2726 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 32696 times:

Quoting AIRBORNE1 (Reply 21):
United will be painting this plane when the heavy checks come into play. It cost millions to take an aircraft out of
service to please the United haters on this board. As said before it's coming. Maybe Friday or Sunday is the
announcement of the new United merge with CO.

Maybe UA is holding out to save some cash and that plane will be getting a Globe on the tail real soon. I hope so if there's a merger.

Please, no battleship gray. The other scheme with shades of blue going to white in a ancient Photoshop fashion isn't very good either, especially with the large tulip that looks like the white "U"s are either a dusting of snow or a photoshop gradient. Also not sure about the predominance of bright blue on that scheme and the bright blue engines either.


User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 32626 times:

What about those aircraft that have already been repainted into the new scheme? There was a 744 here in MEL only a couple of weeks ago where great large patches had peeled from the front, how long will it have to wait to be repainted? Does UA do their own paint work or contract it out?

25 Post contains images ADent : According the the other thread (see reply 3 for link) United is 59% complete repainting the fleet, and the 752 fleet is 72% complete. Remember United
26 atcsundevil : Even US is taking a frickin long time. HP had to paint all of their a/c and YV had to paint a good portion of them and did so pretty quickly. There a
27 legacytravel : As a person who recently flew on UA the aircraft were clean on the inside, and the ride was comfortable and smooth and the F/A's were very professiona
28 SeeTheWorld : I'm a big United fan, but when a plane looks like this, you pull it out of service and get it painted ... regardless of its maintenance schedule.
29 GALLEYSTEW : WOW, this is real?? then why isn't the tail and the orange/red/blue "sunset," also faded. The tail, and nacelles also look much brighter. I hated the
30 kgaiflyer : Please! No Euro-white.
31 my1le : Now I did not start this Topic to bash on United or spread rumors. I flew United Airliners (UA) religiously until I came down to college. I know have
32 AA777223 : I'm pretty sure when N62NA referenced AA he was just joking. Lighten up...
33 Post contains images N62NA : I know. I was joking.
34 SXDFC : They don't show as bad as the DL, UA or any other airlines with paint on their planes, however I have seen a few pictures with faded/chipped letterin
35 Post contains links and images atomsareenough : I agree with this 100%. The gray is way too visually heavy and the "new"/current scheme, while better, still isn't very good. I really don't like tha
36 Post contains images Tango-Bravo : Who knows? ...Tilton & accomplices may have decided it's already time for United to file bankruptcy ...again... so they can line their own pocket
37 UAL747 : Am I the only one who kinda likes their planes a bit "dirty?" This one is borderline raunchy, but I like 'em a bit used looking. Not that I don't appr
38 COS777 : I've seen planes parked in the desert with paint jobs in better condition... One factor that probably has to be taken into account is that the relativ
39 Post contains links my1le : You are 100% correct. I think its weird that there are "new color" UA and others sitting in the desert. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...d=4ad1
40 LAXintl : Why? Planes were due maintenance checks and had to be painted one way or the other. Why should they repaint the old scheme when the new one is out?
41 AIRBORNE1 : The reason why you see so many 737 repainted in the new color maybe are the old shuttle by United airplane. United wanted to get rid of those names sh
42 my1le : I miss the sight of them at IAD. It was awesome seeing them come in and out using all 11,000 feet. Now we have 777's, and I am sad to say I am tired
43 mayor : To be fair, I think there's some of the newly painted A320s and DC-9s in DL's fleet that are already peeling, which makes me wonder how much of a qual
44 LASoctoberB6 : I don't think I mind much about a repaint schedule (especially if i like them both), but if you're not going to repaint them, at least wash it. A simp
45 FRAspotter : Some people here say that it's "only a paint scheme and as long as the maintenance and interior are ok, it's no problem". I'm sorry but I'm forced to
46 brilondon : This sums up what my point was going to be. Also, if the aircraft is also in poor shape what does that say about the company in general and how much
47 UA772IAD : This photo surfacing could be a good little test. If there are people at 77 W. Wacker Drive monitoring this site, and have seen this photo surfaced, p
48 ekskycargo370 : UA's days are numbered...they cannot compete with the modern day airlines,EK,QR,EY etc
49 93Sierra : I have some questions. First, what airline has the hardest time with their paint scheme keeping their aircraft clean? Second, are certain aircraft eas
50 Trijetsonly : If United continues this, then they will introduce a new paint scheme before having painted every a/c in the white-blue livery. By the way, when was t
51 fbgdavidson : Enlighten me. On precisely how many routes do United directly compete with Emirates, Qatar and Etihad?
52 United1 : 2004...I has taken a while to get the fleet painted to this point but as others have mentioned UA does it based on need not simply to change the colo
53 web500sjc : i am sure that that is true, but you first have to get inside the airplane to experience the interior- and when the exterior looks like that, i would
54 UAL747 : Yup....contrary to my user, and also the fact that I fly United recently more than American, even though DFW is closer to me than ORD or IAD, I'm not
55 ADent : February 19, 2004 - 6 years 2 months ago. From an article: "Blue and white will replace blue and gray on the company's fleet of 500 planes during the
56 seabosdca : EK, QR, EY, or just about any other top-tier international airline would fold like a house of cards if it had to compete in the US domestic market. F
57 Post contains images atomsareenough : Air France Don't aircraft go through D-check every 4-5 years? If this was actually their policy, then even if an aircraft had gone through D-check ju
58 United1 : 8 to 4 typically depending on the age of the aircraft IIRC.
59 aviateur : I wish UA had never totally abandoned the gray scheme. It only needed to be a tad lighter on the top, with maybe a revised tail. Here's my critique of
60 UA772IAD : If memory serves me correct, I believe ship 2375, N775UA (777-200 "A" model) was the first aircraft to receive the new paint job; I believe in part f
61 PacificClipper : Really? Exactly how many flights have you taken on UA in the last 12-18 months? That's when UA instituted a program to replace seat covers, bulkheads
62 Elevated : I absolutely agree with you. It's atrocious to let an a/c is the condition represent an airline looking like that regardless of its heavy maintenance
63 Post contains images PHLBOS : I'm not sure of the exact number but the only MAINLINE US equipment still bearing the dark '97 scheme are the narrow-bodied Airbii (319/320/321). All
64 atomsareenough : Really, some aircraft don't go through D-check for as many as EIGHT years? I guess maybe when they're new they might not need it as quickly, but NONE
65 Silver1SWA : Exactly right. It's the same reason WN took almost 9 years to paint the fleet blue. And I believe they only had just over 200 planes in the old brown
66 atcsundevil : Of course because they would want their flagships -- especially those making transatlantic trips -- to be in the new scheme. All of the 752s, 762s, a
67 ORDnHKG : That is because initially, when UA start repainting, they didn't think they are going to park some 744 (those are due for D-checks), and all 737's fl
68 Post contains images Silver1SWA : United now has a reason to accelerate repaints.
69 CF-CPI : For a good while, we'll see three different paint jobs, much like Delta. How easy would it be to write over the 'Continental' with 'United' font on t
70 Post contains images Stitch : You called it - the new UA will have CO's livery with the United name.
71 SeeTheWorld : Please!!!! This is a disgrace, and United has over $3.5 billiion in unrestricted cash, $500 million more than at the end of 2009. Stop being so drama
72 Post contains images mayor : Actually doesn't look too bad......
73 flyorski : I think it will look good esp. on the 764 and 777, however I wonder about the Airbus's. These colors on an A320 might look a little off. Someone with
74 Post contains links PHLBOS : One A-netter (as well as a PHL spotter) works for US over in PHL had a running thread (now archived) regarding the US (East) fleet repaints. All the
75 Antoniemey : I think the timing is actually based on cycles and hours, so if the aircraft hasn't been flying high numbers of cycles, it won't be required to get t
76 Aerosol : Unbelievably clever research that is as the competetions PAX only see the OUTSIDE - maybe this plane travels to other countries, where people see thi
77 atcsundevil : I'm not convinced. I like CO's scheme and UA's new scheme just fine...but putting "United" on the CO scheme, same font and everything...it looks too
78 Post contains images milesrich : The stylized "United" looks similar to the United lettering on the four star Friendship livery before the rainbow was introduced in 1975, especially t
79 ckfred : True, but as a cost-saving measure, the aircraft are polished every 24 months, rather than every 12 months. Frankly, you can tell when a plane is wel
80 psimpson : My thinking is that the United titles and Continental livery on the aircraft is hybrid, and in time all Continental aircraft will be repainted into Un
81 mayor : Well, it certainly won't take long to change over CO's fleet to the new livery. However, UA has to start over and do all of their fleet in the new liv
82 avek00 : Why do you think this despite the very clear statements that the livery and logo of the merged airline will be CO's?
83 glareskin : You are so right! What a mistake to let United's stylish livery and font go. Why isn't it enough to have the Continental lead and management style an
84 Antoniemey : That would be directly contrary to what was stated by UA and CO. Now, it may be that they use those colors only long enough to get through the merger
85 AADC10 : The new colors UA planes parked in the desert are all 737s because that entire fleet was parked, somewhat ahead of schedule back when oil prices were
86 Post contains images EA CO AS : It has been said repeatedly - by both CO and UA alike - that the new company will use the CO livery and logo with the UA name. Not sure how much more
87 United1 : Not at this point at least...never say never in this industry. A previous poster did bring up a good point though by using COs livery they will be ab
88 junction : To be honest the United titles in CO font was overwhelmingly awkward to me at first, but only after a couple days I think I'm actually getting used to
89 Argonaut : It was simply coincidental. IIRC Delta introduced its rebranding in May 2007, and merger talks with NW didn't begin until early 2008. Delta's stated
90 ADent : The giant little U it terrible on the new United. Going with the old early 70's font would be much better. I think the UA logo is iconic, but pointles
91 Antoniemey : Not without angering thousands of CO employees.
92 DeltaRules : It looks like somebody on a modified paint scheme site custom-made United titles in Continental's font & slapped them on the side of the 787...on
93 aerokiwi : Maybe becasue that brand has now lost a lot of the value it once had. You may recognise it, but not necessarily for all the right reasons.
94 aviateur : The combined airline will carry the United name, which has slightly more global recognition (and fewer syllables) than Continental, but will wear the
95 rj777 : I really don't know if this is going to be the final livery. Sure they probably spent a lot of money on the computer renderings and the physical model
96 atcsundevil : Yeah, I really loved the new livery. Continental's is really kind of a timeless livery and is certainly very classy, but UA's new scheme really has a
97 Post contains images EA CO AS : This is it. CO livery and brand, UA name. Full stop.
98 Post contains links ltbewr : Here is a link to the website as to the merger. It has pictures of the scheme that may happen, like that in a pic in an earlier pic. It also notes som
99 HAWK21M : Normally Painting is carried out in a controlled atmosphere & combined with a major check to save costs & reduce grounding time.
100 Argonaut : True...good point. Another good point. 'United' rings a subconscious bell with 'United States of America'. I was mostly trying to explore the thinkin
101 atomsareenough : But why repaint all the Continental planes if you can just slap "United" on them and keep the same livery? Maybe they will tweak it again several yea
102 Post contains links seriophoto : Speaking of the fleet...here's a story about the hardware upon which those logos/fonts will be placed: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?
103 scorpy : I guess UA is going to try and slow down repainting as much as they can for the next 9 months or so. Seems to make little sense to repaint the grey pl
104 Post contains links and images NorthStarDC4M : Ua changed schemes twice since CO went to the Blue tail in 1991, thats not bad considering: UA in 1991: View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duart
105 rj777 : Didn't CO also have a BLACK meatball?
106 Post contains links and images ADent : Yes. View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duarte Jr.
107 PHLBOS : DL changed their scheme 3 times since 1991: From the Classic Widget to Ron Allen scheme in the mid-to-late 90s (1997(?)). From the Ron Allen scheme t
108 jetblast : Could this mean that since CO created a retrojet and many CO members will be on the board, that we may see one for United? One can only dream.
109 Post contains links and images mayor : Delta actually only had three changes. The "classic" Widget scheme was 30 years old when it was changed in '97. You show three different UA schemes s
110 Argonaut : Check out my earlier post (reply 89) and you'll see I agree with you entirely. From a sentimental point of view I find myself hankering for a bit of
111 STT757 : I like the the look of it especially on the 787. I think we may see UA order the 777-300ER in place of the A350 for a 747-400 replacement, that would
112 Post contains images voltage : I'm not sure I agree. The way I see it, given that the merger discussions only took 3 weeks, they didn't have much time to dedicate to studying liver
113 Post contains images atcsundevil : Yep, we're both on pretty much the same track My disappointment is really because I grew up in/near DC and grew up with United sorta being my "hometo
114 Post contains images EA CO AS : Clearly you've forgotten that CO and UA had extensive merger negotiations back in 2008, and it's quite possible the livery/brand discussion had been
115 mayor : As I said, above, DL's track record with re-paints is not where near as bad as UA. DL's problem was changing the livery before the fleet was entirely
116 AADC10 : I am not saying that it will come back anytime soon, more like 7 to 10 years. The marketing need to visually tie the two airlines will last at least
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