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Taag Angola Orders Two Boeing 777-300/ERs  
User currently onlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1123 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 17673 times:

Well, this is great news from TAAG. They appear to be turning around nicely!

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/SF96317.htm

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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 32532 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 17639 times:
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That must be the two UFO 777s Boeing announced in their Order Update today.

User currently offlinecosmofly From United States of America, joined May 2009, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 17550 times:

The news said that they were already booked as UFO in 2009.

User currently onlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1123 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 17477 times:

Quoting cosmofly (Reply 2):
The news said that they were already booked as UFO in 2009.

Interesting. Does anyone know when they plan to deliver these to TAAG?


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17340 times:

AWESOME NEWS! Can't wait to fly these babies

Here's hoping this deal will be cleaner than the last DT 777 purchase!



Speedbird741



Boa noite Faro, Air Portugal 257 climbing flight level 340
User currently onlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1123 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17294 times:

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 4):
Here's hoping this deal will be cleaner than the last DT 777 purchase!

No kidding, that was a mess. But perhaps since they already have 777s in their fleet it will be smoother? And they seem to at least a somewhat competent management team this time around.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7721 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 16943 times:

Wow! Great going TAAG!  

I wonder if we will now see GIG as a daily destination.



Next flights: MEX-JFK-FCO AM 788/AZ 77E | DBV-BEG-BUD JU AT7/733 | BUD-AMS 738 | AMS-MEX 74M
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11106 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 16501 times:

What the aviation world doesnt need are even more 77Ws. Airports are getting damn boring in the future.

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11496 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 16451 times:
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Interesting news ! This would allow further routes to Europe (or LAD-DXB-PEK) using the 772 as LIS can now use a bigger plane

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
Wow! Great going TAAG!

I wonder if we will now see GIG as a daily destination.

Eddie they are flying Daily to Brazil, 4 times a week to Rio de Janeiro, 3 times a week to Sao Paulo, all using B772.
I would say Brazil is a big candidate for the B77W



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlinesunrisevalley From Canada, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 5546 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 16366 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
That must be the two UFO 777s Boeing announced in their Order Update today.

Um.... seems to me NZ needs two to complete its fleet. I wonder .


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7721 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 16040 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 8):
Eddie they are flying Daily to Brazil, 4 times a week to Rio de Janeiro, 3 times a week to Sao Paulo, all using B772.

Well, maybe it is time to make GIG daily!  

And I agree that LIS will also see the 77W.



Next flights: MEX-JFK-FCO AM 788/AZ 77E | DBV-BEG-BUD JU AT7/733 | BUD-AMS 738 | AMS-MEX 74M
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6776 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 15695 times:

I think these new 77Ws will replace the 74Ds. Two 77Ws to replace two 74Ds. Perhaps they will convert the 74Ds to all-cargo aircraft ?

I suspect DT will order more aircraft for expansion later.

I would expect future orders be for smaller aircraft ie 777-200/ER/LR or 787s.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineConti764 From Belgium, joined Dec 2007, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 14997 times:

Quoting na (Reply 7):
What the aviation world doesnt need are even more 77Ws. Airports are getting damn boring in the future.

Something like yet another A330?


User currently offlineboeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 520 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14355 times:
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I am excited that TAAG is getting things turned around. Though I loved my last flights on TAP between LIS and LAD, it would be nice to experience the same surly brusk service on international flights that TAAG offers on its domestic routes. Kidding, really I had two great flights on TAAG last time I traveled domestically.

Now if they could just fix LAD, that airport is a mess.

For a little flavor of the experience of traveling domestically in Angola I've included a photo. The last time I flew TAAG domestically it was a classic 737 that had a tendancy to drop its oxygen masks.



User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14036 times:

So how much longer do we have to enjoy their 747-300s?


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11496 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13248 times:
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Quoting EddieDude (Reply 10):
Well, maybe it is time to make GIG daily!

And I agree that LIS will also see the 77W.

It will be normal and i expect by 2014 we will see both as daily. The 772 is helping TAAG to get more premium demand !



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently onlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1123 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12896 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
I think these new 77Ws will replace the 74Ds. Two 77Ws to replace two 74Ds. Perhaps they will convert the 74Ds to all-cargo aircraft ?

The777Man, I was reading your website which mentioned that the 77Ws were originally ordered in Feb 09. Do you have any clue on how long it would take for them to be delivered? I assume not too long from now but I would have no clue. You have a great website BTW, very informative.

Quoting boeingrulz (Reply 13):
For a little flavor of the experience of traveling domestically in Angola I've included a photo. The last time I flew TAAG domestically it was a classic 737 that had a tendancy to drop its oxygen masks.

It seems you have to be somewhat of a risk taker to fly domestically in Angola. I believe one of the reasons TAAG has continued to keep their 732s is because they handle the horrible conditions of many runways in the country better than any other aircraft. I believe the 73Gs can only fly to Lubango, Catumbela, Ondjiva, and of course Luanda.

Some renders from the Boeing website for anyone interested:





http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1187


User currently offlinelegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3317 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12803 times:

Finally one of my old lego models becomes reality;

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/aircraftdave/TAAG/p1000950.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=248050

Nice to see the airline slowly expanding.



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12509 times:

Do not quote me on this, but just the other day a reliable source told me DT is to start flying to the US. No details on a particular city though.



Speedbird741



Boa noite Faro, Air Portugal 257 climbing flight level 340
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6776 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12435 times:

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 16):
The777Man, I was reading your website which mentioned that the 77Ws were originally ordered in Feb 09. Do you have any clue on how long it would take for them to be delivered? I assume not too long from now but I would have no clue. You have a great website BTW, very informative.

Thanks for checking out my website and the nice comments.

There were two UFO orders left from 2009 from two each 77Ws and I have to admit it's just a guess who placed the order and a specific date. My guess is that DT placed the order earlier since they have more of a history with UFO orders than NH. We'll find out this week, hopefully.

I guess since they disclosed the order, delivery probably will happen within 6 months but that's a qualified guess as well.

Quoting legoguy (Reply 17):
Finally one of my old lego models becomes reality;

Very nice model !! Great job putting that together!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinePbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 635 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12367 times:

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 18):
Do not quote me on this, but just the other day a reliable source told me DT is to start flying to the US. No details on a particular city though.

Could IAH be a possibility? The oil ties are obvious, but the Atlas charter flights probably take a lot of the premium demand so not probable. I would guess it would more likely be JFK or IAD.


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12310 times:

Quoting Pbb152 (Reply 20):
Could IAH be a possibility? The oil ties are obvious, but the Atlas charter flights probably take a lot of the premium demand so not probable. I would guess it would more likely be JFK or IAD.

As you mention, with the Houston express still running, IAH shouldn't be the top contestant but rumor is that all sonair operations are to be taken over by DT. But that's just word of mouth (again from reliable sources).
I would guess ATL or JFK/EWR. Just my very humble two cents!


Speedbird741



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User currently onlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1123 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12257 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 19):
There were two UFO orders left from 2009 from two each 77Ws and I have to admit it's just a guess who placed the order and a specific date. My guess is that DT placed the order earlier since they have more of a history with UFO orders than NH. We'll find out this week, hopefully.

When DT originally announced they were planning to acquire new aircraft in early April, several articles mentioned that they planned to buy 777s from SonAir. Now, SonAir obviously doesn't have any 777s so it possible that SonAir actually ordered the 77Ws back in Feb 2009 and the order was just recently transferred to TAAG? They are both state-owned companies so I suppose this is possible?

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 21):
As you mention, with the Houston express still running, IAH shouldn't be the top contestant but rumor is that all sonair operations are to be taken over by DT. But that's just word of mouth (again from reliable sources).

Well, SonAir just acquired new 744s from AtlasAir to operate the Houston Express, so I doubt DT would completely take this route over. But maybe DT could fly to IAH on the days the Houston Express doesn't? And DT would have the advantage of selling tickets to the general public, verses SonAir who can only sell tickets to USAEA members.


User currently offlinePbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 635 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12112 times:

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 22):
Well, SonAir just acquired new 744s from AtlasAir to operate the Houston Express, so I doubt DT would completely take this route over.

Minor correction. SonAir did not acquire the aircraft from Atlas. They are former Oasis Hong Kong aircraft that SonAir purchased, and will be operated by Atlas Air.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 4060 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11876 times:

Quoting legoguy (Reply 17):
Finally one of my old lego models becomes reality;

wow, that's impressive!


25 boeingrulz : According to the news from ANGOP, the official news organ of the government of Angola the US and Angola have signed an agreement that opens up Angola
26 Post contains links and images MHTripple7 : Yes this is correct, although I believe the final details are still being worked out. Although is security actually an issue? The SonAir LAD-IAH flig
27 Post contains links boeingrulz : Since the announcement of bilateral agreement came a few days after a regional meeting in Abuja where the Angolan air athorities and representatives o
28 wjcandee : One element of security for the Houston Express is the limited list of who can fly on it. Not to say that this is perfect, but it is a start. Atlas br
29 MHTripple7 : Ah ok this does indeed make sense. So then I suppose if / when LAD gets their act together with the security situation, flights will begin between An
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