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China Airlines Launches Non Stop A340 To London!  
User currently offlineBalkantoDelta From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10921 times:

Hi there folks.
Yesterday China Airlines launched non stop flights between Taipei and London using the Airbus 340-300. If anyone has info on how its doing please share your comments. Here is the official press release from China Airlines:

Taipei, Taiwan – China Airlines will launch scheduled passenger services between Taipei, Taiwan and London, England, starting on March 28. The new flights, CI-069 from Taipei to London, and CI-070 from London to Taipei, will operate three times per week, using an advanced Airbus A340-300 aircraft, configured with 30 business-class seats and 246 economy-class seats. This exclusive non-stop service to London Heathrow Airport highlights CAL’s commitment to the European market, and provides passengers with greater flexibility in their travels between Taiwan and London, and onward to other destinations in Europe.


With the inauguration of the new London non-stop route, China Airlines will increase its number of European destinations to five, with a total of 21 flights to Europe per week. In addition to London, China Airlines provides non-stop services to Frankfurt and Vienna, while its Amsterdam flights stop over in Bangkok, and its Rome flights stop over in Delhi. CAL also serves Prague via a code-share agreement with Czech Airlines, and it serves Hamburg, Hanover, Stuttgart, Dusseldorf, Cologne, Nuremburg and Munich through a landmark code-share agreement with rail operator ICE Germany.

Details of the new three-times-per-week service between Taipei and London are as follows:

CI-069 Taipei London _2____7 09:25 17:05
CI-069 Taipei London ___4___ 09:25 16:55
CI-070 London Taipei _2____7 21:15 18:15+1
CI-070 London Taipei ___4___ 22:05 19:05+1

As Britain began granting six-month visa-free entry for Taiwanese passport holders on March 3, 2009, encouraging more Taiwanese to travel to the UK, the new London service is not only timely, but also enhances the relationship between the two destinations. To better serve its customers, China Airlines will also work with major travel agencies to provide a variety of new package tours to London. Please visit www.china-airlines.com for more information.

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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4493 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9772 times:
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so does anyone know what the loads have been like and also what routing the flight takes?

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7523 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7420 times:

I suppose CI is using T4 at LHR, correct?


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User currently offlineincitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 3964 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7365 times:

Does it overfly China?

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11572 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7132 times:

I believe it avoids Chinese airspace. Certainly the timings would suggest this; 14 hours Eastbound and 14 hours 30 minutes Westbound for a 9,802km segment. Avoiding China would increase that to around 11,500km.


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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4493 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6556 times:
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I don't believe it avoids all PRC airspace but it does not route over central China/Sinjiang like most other eg HK- Europe flights which would be much closer to a GC route from TPE. When Taiwanese carriers first started overflying China a few years ago their Euro flights would overfly southern China and near Hainan doing away with the previous dog legging to Vietnam to avoid PRC airspace. It probably does go south of the Himalayas.

User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

Quoting BalkantoDelta (Thread starter):
Yesterday China Airlines launched non stop flights between Taipei and London using the Airbus 340-300.

These flights began on the 28th March.

Quoting incitatus (Reply 3):
Does it overfly China?

When I used the service on 30th March we took a very southerly route, south of the Himalayas over India, avoiding most of China. However we did have a 140mph tail wind, so I assumed that this was the reason for the routing.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12322 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

I appreciate that due to slot restrictions at LHR, they can't get better schedules, but it's a pity that the connection potential to/from TPE is so poor. Still, I wish them luck with the route.

User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6590 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

Quoting incitatus (Reply 3):
Does it overfly China?

It most likely does. The 744F flights do that whenever they go Sharjah - Taipei direct... the India-HKG corridor via Kunming... I am told by a friend in CI, that CI is only allowed to go over mainland China on that corridor on a regular basis. Other parts of mainland China require more permission...



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

Is this a longer flight in time and distance than SQ's current SIN-EWR service? Is the configeration for MTOW similar? It is sad that there is still such a political situation between PRC and Taiwan that means a less direct route.

User currently offlinehotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

Old news...flights began on 28th March.


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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2808 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4820 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
I appreciate that due to slot restrictions at LHR, they can't get better schedules, but it's a pity that the connection potential to/from TPE is so poor. Still, I wish them luck with the route.

Heathrow slot constraints are irrelevant.
CAL have secured slots in the SAME late afternoon arrival // evening departure time periods as have ALL the other regional competitors,
Korean. JAL , ANA, Air China, China Eastern and EVA.
Only Cathay and BA have multiple flights into this region from London.
Even the Virgin and Air New Zealand flights via Hong Kong depart london late evening.

As for the connections beyond Taipei what would they be anyway.

OH you say a regional to Kaohsiung yep you can make that and oh Brisbane - Australia you can make that too!

The only other point that a connection via Taipei would be viable would be to Manila and that does require an overnight stay.

Fact is the route is O & D and whilst they are employing the A343 currently I certainly see an upgrade to a B744 soon for cargo uplift to augment the freighters operating into Manchester several times a week.


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