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Ireland In Flight: Irish Aviation 12/10  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12565 posts, RR: 35
Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20367 times:

Good evening folks and welcome to our 12th installment of the year.

Apart from volcanoes and ash, things have been fairly quiet here in recent weeks; some positive results today for EI, but it's still going to be a tough year in the airline industry and of course, it remains to be seen how the mergers in the US will affect Ireland; the DL/NW merger shouldn't affect us that much (certainly not negatively), but I can't help wondering if the CO/UA merger will affect Aer Lingus; might UA consider (no doubt with the "encouragement" of its pilots' union, who have been heavily against the EI deal) that CO's 764s might be a better aircraft to operate IAD-MAD? Of course, it's barely 24h after the deal has been announced, so all the chips are up in the air.

Today has seen more ash problems and as if we didn't have enough problems, it's quite likely that we'll see sporadic stoppages throughout the year, which are going to cause disruption to all, not to mention costing the airlines.

So, let's see what the next fortnight or so has in store for us ...

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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20365 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Apart from volcanoes and ash, things have been fairly quiet here in recent weeks;

Im hoping it will not cause too much trouble over the coming weeks as I have numerous flights booked.   

It will be interesting to see how the new CO/UA merger will effect Ireland. In terms of staff UA shut down their off line GSA station a few years back so no job impact there.

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From 7am tomorrow BFS and BHD will be closed !!

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Nice article on T2 here ::

New airport terminal gets cleared for autumn take-off
The massive T2 is getting its finishing touches in preparation for November flights

After over a decade of planning, and more than €600m in funding, Dublin Airport's new Terminal 2 is on track to open this November.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news...nal-gets-cleared-for-autumn-take-/

[Edited 2010-05-04 12:01:45]

User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1955 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 20308 times:
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From the previous thread....

Quoting LUPOR1D (Reply 230):
Continental are sending a 767-400 to Shannon tonight, as last nights flight was cancelled.

Anyone spotting at SNN tonight who has a camera, you know the drill.



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User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2179 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 20253 times:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 1):
Im hoping it will not cause too much trouble over the coming weeks as I have numerous flights booked

Same here, im due to fly out on Saturday for the only time this summer.


User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20206 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 2):
Anyone spotting at SNN tonight who has a camera, you know the drill.

It'll be a long night Tony....  


User currently offlineDavecFlyer From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20156 times:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 1):
From 7am tomorrow BFS and BHD will be closed !!

Booked DUB to EMA tomorrow morning. IAA will make a decision at Midnight. I wish they could make it earlier so I could have a lie on if possible!



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User currently offlinerojam From Ireland, joined Nov 2007, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20124 times:

In the Sunday Tribune article referred to by oa260 it states "The terminal will also be one of the first in Europe to have a pioneering new form of check-in which will cut down on travel time".

Anyone know what exactly this pioneering new form might be ?



Glad to be down from the sky for an extended period.
User currently offlineLUPOR1D From Ireland, joined Feb 2008, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20089 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 2):
From the previous thread....

Quoting LUPOR1D (Reply 230):
Continental are sending a 767-400 to Shannon tonight, as last nights flight was cancelled.

Anyone spotting at SNN tonight who has a camera, you know the drill.

Tonight as in, it lands 7am tommorow  



Always lurking.
User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1880 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20050 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 229):
Loss down by around half, to c.€37m, but revenues down slightly. Still, gross cash balances were up to about c.€918m. Now, I'm not sure I understand this, because I thought EI's cash balances were less than half of this? Perhaps someone who knows something about accountancy could explain?

I think it may be that the cash is accessible. The investors briefing in January had a mention of early payments to lower repayments,so perhaps that frees up cash in the short term? Am sure its an accountancy trick .................

................or else Mannion and Coyle were deliberatly hiding money somewhere in the books last year!!


Anyone know how to volunteer for the T2 trial and the "....pioneering new form of check-in which will cut down on travel time"


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4211 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19939 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 8):
Anyone know how to volunteer for the T2 trial and the "....pioneering new form of check-in which will cut down on travel time"


I would put money on it that it is mobile phone check in being dressed up as being something totally new.



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User currently offlinejrfspa320 From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 19905 times:

Any word on the new EI regional routes yet?
Id would love to see a return to LCY, I think it could work really well, target business travellers, to travel via DUB, can offer range of US cities, around the same flight time as the BA service, but much cheaper as well offering Y product.
I think ORK/BFS -LCY could work. Also new routes out of SNN to; MAN, BHX, CDG, AMS?


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4211 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19874 times:

Quoting jrfspa320 (Reply 10):
Any word on the new EI regional routes yet?
Id would love to see a return to LCY, I think it could work really well, target business travellers, to travel via DUB, can offer range of US cities, around the same flight time as the BA service, but much cheaper as well offering Y product.
I think ORK/BFS -LCY could work. Also new routes out of SNN to; MAN, BHX, CDG, AMS?

BFS / BHD LCY has been tried by numerous operators, including Air France Cityjet and was a spectacular flop each time.

Cityjet also destroyed BA when they launched on DUB-LCY last year, and Cityjet / AF do offer connections via DUB from LCY onto JFK and ATL on the DL services which are codeshared.

SNN to MAN, BHX have a better hope of success IMHO



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User currently offlinestyles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 532 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 19862 times:

Shamrock604,
If you are in Ireland, you are either up very late or very early!

Regarding SNN to MAN/BHX, would not FR have done it if it could be done already? What could EI offer on these two routes that FR could not, other than the potential of a connection to BOS/JFK on certain days?



It is what it is.
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4211 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 19831 times:

Quoting Reply 12):
Shamrock604,
If you are in Ireland, you are either up very late or very early!

Regarding SNN to MAN/BHX, would not FR have done it if it could be done already? What could EI offer on these two routes that FR could not, other than the potential of a connection to BOS/JFK on certain days?

EI could offer the right aircraft in the ATR72 - The 737-800 was just too big.

BA operated MAN very succesfully, and Flybe operated BHX very succesfully until FR swopped in and finished them both off at SNN.

Yes, im up late, no wait, early.... no wait, i dont actually know...  

Need sleep....... volcano is killing me.......  



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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 19815 times:

Well confusion and more delays today, due to "late arrival of the incoming volcanic ash forecast". This must be deterring a lot of casual flights now, the weekend trip being one that may see significant decline. This third ash incident once again revealing how dependant we are on air access.

I do wonder about CO & UA, no good news there for us at all. EI have been so lucky in their alignments with US carriers. Arrangement with DL, including DL FA on certain flights - ended. AA still a codeshare on some flights, despite EI abandoning the alliance, but presumably not one with a long term future. Then the UA IAD deal, but now merging with a direct competitor. As for Jet Blue, well does anyone even remember that?


User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7264 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 19807 times:

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...t-for-top-ryanair-job-2164626.html

FORMER EU commissioner Charlie McCreevy can take up a key post in Ryanair after the European Commission cleared the way for him.

It said it would allow the former finance minister to accept the job as a non-executive director on the board of the airline.



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineDavecFlyer From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 19798 times:

Quoting DavecFlyer (Reply 5):
Booked DUB to EMA tomorrow morning. IAA will make a decision at Midnight. I wish they could make it earlier so I could have a lie on if possible!

Well I'm back home after my early morning jaunt to the airport. My outbound was operating no problem but with the news that Dublin is closing from 11.00 I didn't want to take the chance that I would'nt get home tonight. FR website advises next update at 09.00 which would be too late for the day trippers to make a decision.

EI cancelled most of the early morning departures I assume after boarding passengers. Most people seemed pretty calm with the whole situation.



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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1880 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19753 times:
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Looking at the current met office graphic it looks as though UK and Ireland will be affected while the European flights can overfly the current cloud. Graphic shows cloud up to FL200.

As you say the casual air traveller may be put off in the next month or two. Personally I'm thinking the ferry to France/Spain could be a nice start to the holiday!!! The question is which of our 4 scheduled airlines will be most affected. Assume CityJet have a reliable business type passenger base into LCY, and EI can still operate their T/A services. Maybe Ryanair would be most affected, thinking in terms of the stereotypical stag/hen/birthday weekend travelers? Of course their vast network throughout Europe would allow them to operate the majority of their flights elsewhere. They are more resiliant to a UK/Irish grounding. And I do allow that they (FR) would have a large number of business travellers on their Irish-UK routes,not trying to stereotype their operation. Aer Arann are very reliant on the Irish-UK routes so grounding due to ash may hurt them a lot more than the others,not really sure what their passenger demographic is. Any thoughts?


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1955 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19741 times:
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Quoting LUPOR1D (Reply 7):
Tonight as in, it lands 7am tommorow

Well unless they get it back out of there pretty quickly, it might be there for a while  



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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19736 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 11):
Cityjet also destroyed BA when they launched on DUB-LCY last year

Nasty WX'ers  
Quoting DavecFlyer (Reply 16):
Well I'm back home after my early morning jaunt to the airport. My outbound was operating no problem but with the news that Dublin is closing from 11.00 I didn't want to take the chance

Wise choice I will be doing the same if this continues


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19695 times:

Dublin now shut until midnight at least, some better news for Cork.

User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 19658 times:

Quite a few planes scheduled to arrive in DUB are being diverted to SNN. At least it'll be easier to position the a/c back to DUB once they're in Ireland.

User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1608 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 19643 times:

Another day off work! More money lost  

A freind of mine who is EI crew says they had big troulbe on AMS-DUB last evening after ground staff let more passengers than seats onto the aircraft!


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19625 times:

im sure there would have been i presume ei offered dbc

User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19614 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 11):
BFS / BHD LCY has been tried by numerous operators, including Air France Cityjet and was a spectacular flop each time.

Who else other than Air France Cityjet tried this route?

Going back a few years Air Europe Express were going to operate it and when bust first. Titan were going to fly it with a shorts 360 again never happen. BA were going to operate it, again nothing happened.

Cityjet were expensive and did not have great times, as far as I can remember their last flight of the day from LCY to BHD was mid afternoon.

Alex


25 Post contains links kaitak : Extended closing information announced by IAA: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/s...-stay-closed-until-4am-456473.html SNN now closed and DUB closed
26 Post contains images Eagleboy : Hopefully back on track tomorrow Love this line from the Irish Times today,capotals are my editing: "Aer Lingus flights resumed at 1 pm and Ryanair at
27 OA260 : Its very worrying for anyone travelling in the next 5 days and if you get out will you get back.
28 Post contains images eicvd : Thanks for the good news!
29 Post contains images OA260 : If your still there by the time I arrive I might comp you into the BMI lounge Although these days your better off outside lol..
30 wexfordflyer : I'm supposed to be flying with EY next Friday. I don't mind once I get out, I don't need to get back for a year!!
31 Post contains images OA260 : Lucky for you ... have fun. I met a guy on the train today who came from Scotland by ferry to Belfast and then was getting the train to Dublin then S
32 BrianDromey : Last time I was there it was in dire need of an overhaul, that was almost 12 months ago now, but I suspect not much has changed. I'm interested to se
33 Post contains links OA260 : http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/the-experience/the-london-room.aspx
34 aerdingus : Was out @ DUB today to see if anything interesting had landed. Saw a DL 767, not sure if it was -300 or -400, 2 EI A330's, a smattering of EI A320's,
35 Post contains links OA260 : Irish airspace begins re-opening Irish airports are resuming operations this morning as volcanic ash from Iceland is beginning to drift out of Irish a
36 JWMD123 : EI have sent an A330 to WAW this morning. Must have a big backlog to clear there.
37 DavecFlyer : This is LZ-CGO and usually just subs in for a TNT B737 occasionally.
38 EIDAA : Indeed. I'm off to SEA again on Sunday for a few days and hope nothing impacts that trip. I have been very lucky recently with my flights with the BA
39 aerdingus : Ah ok, thanks for that. Nice to see something different.
40 eicvd : They sent an A330 to LHR aswell.
41 styles9002 : Are there any events planned at SNN for the re-launch of DL service to JFK?
42 oa260 : That would have been a nice flight .
43 Post contains links shamrock350 : Didn't see this posted yet. Bmi aims to cut domestic flights from Heathrow http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...omestic-flights-from-Heathrow.html W
44 callbell : EI also sent the A330 to BCN this evening and a 2nd A330 to AGP to help clear the backlog of passengers.
45 kaitak : A nice flight, yes, BUT the big pain is that the A330 is too big to use the Pier 4A gates, so you get put on a bus and have to travel all around the
46 Post contains images oa260 : Part of the enjoyment , call yourself an Anetter Boarding the A330 by steps ( on a nice day of course)
47 eicvd : I experiened that back in December, made a nice little change. Only bad thing was it was about -5C!
48 Post contains links oa260 : This photo is labled as Aer Lingus , must be a mistake : http://www.airliners.gr/community/ga...lery/image_page.php?image_id=19554
49 AmricanShamrok : More flight disruptions for the morning: CFN: Closed 00:00-12:00 GWY: Closed 03:00-13:00 KIR: Closed 07:00-13:00 NOC: Closed 03:00-13:00 SNN: Closed 0
50 EI320 : Could be worse I guess. At least DUB and ORK will remain open. That's a former AZ Caravelle.
51 dstc47 : Dust news - Donegal opening at 08.30 now and other west coast airports also opening earlier than expected this morning. 10.00 for SNN.. If you really
52 Post contains links Part147 : After the fatal crash at Powerscourt airfield earlier this year, it seems it will be closed and 'never used again'... http://www.independent.ie/nation
53 AmricanShamrok : A family member of mine was due to fly LDY-DUB-ORD with RE/EI on Wednesday but got as far as Dublin only to have her flight cancelled so had to get t
54 LUPOR1D : Also is good to see they've returned to having it year-round. Who knows...maybe they'll restart Atlanta before too long...
55 tonymctigue : Here's to hope. Glad to see DL going year round again. I might take a trip fo SNN tomorrow to see for myself. It is hard to believe that three years
56 AmricanShamrok : ATL was great for connections to DL domestic flights; JFK isn't great in terms of timings and ATL offered more choice but I suppose they're targeting
57 LUPOR1D : Indeed, would be great for connections. Tis a woefully long trip on a 752 though, friend of mine did it and described it as hell! haha
58 Post contains links oa260 : Ryanair boss O'Leary says sorry to pilot The chief executive of Ryanair, Michael O'Leary, has apologised to the head of the Airline Pilots Association
59 EI320 : He's been doing a lot of apologising lately!
60 oa260 : Just looking at Met Eireann about the ash cloud and looking for updates over the weekend, weird that it mentions a mini earthquake in Co.Clare a 2.7
61 EI320 : A lot of my family live back in West Clare in the areas supposedly hit by the earthquake and none of them felt a thing. A 2.7 is pretty small, a lorr
62 eicvd : Im here @ gate 313, (waiting for the BD124). Some nice a/c from across the pond here this morning. The DL 764 in the Skyteam livery just arrived &
63 oa260 : Glad you getting out ok, have fun.
64 shamrock321 : Always nice to see the more exotic American birds in DUB, add the CO 757 in Star Alliance colours and its a perfect set!, the US star bird for a bonus
65 COEI2007 : I see BD are to reduce domestic UK flights to a max 5 daily on each route. Which means EI's BFS-LHR is offering almost the same frequency as BD's BHD-
66 oa260 : Yep as posted by Kevin. Shame really but not surprising.
67 COEI2007 : Unfortunately, a cut in frequency will loose them a lot of regular fliers. Theyre competing with EI, BA, EZY and FR who all operate high frequency on
68 AmricanShamrok : That was strange. How often do we get earthquakes here? Of course it seems on a global scale we've been seeing an huge amount of earthquakes this yea
69 EIEGAA : I flew out of BFS at just before 6pm yesterday and manage to see an Aerovis AN 12 land. Is this a regular flight or was it a "one-off"? Would love to
70 dstc47 : And why would anyone in EI think that having tried BWI twice, and failed twice and IAD once, and failed once - both airports with no direct competito
71 bestwestern : Bmi's problem in one sentance. They didn't know what they wanted to be. Yes, i'm using past tense. The days of Bmi are over, and they will become no
72 Nibog : Just a quick question on EI's t/a flights:how are the schedules holding up now with the detour that t/a flights have to take south in order to avoid t
73 shamrock321 : EI transatlantic flights this morning have been a mess! New York Aer Lingus EI104 09-05-2010 05:15 Arrived 0930 Boston Aer Lingus EI132 09-05-2010 07:
74 Nibog : Thanks Shramrock321,I was thinking that,and on the westbound tracks I see that flights will route eastwards to Scotland,and over the"top" of Iceland
75 kaitak : No, I think that three of the old ones - CRK, DUB and JFK - have gone to Vladivostok. Is there also flow control in place on t/a routes? Are there th
76 shamrock321 : S4 from FNC also cancelled today, I took a days holidays yesterday for my grandads months mind and the fella who did my shift got stuck there until 6a
77 kaitak : Statement issued by Aer Lingus in relation to continuing ash cloud delays: "Dear Customer The eruption of the volcano in Iceland has caused disruption
78 tonymctigue : I just noticed that there is a flight number EI1109 show to depart from SNN at 18:00 bound for JFK. Is this the normal EI 109 DUB-JFK operating from S
79 EI320 : EI109 has been re-routed via SNN: EI 109 Departure date: 09 May 2010 Scheduled Actual Departure Arrival Departure Arrival DUBLIN to NYC/JFK 1700 1940
80 Post contains links Eagleboy : Agree with dstc47. EI going to PHL makes no sense. If anything I would thing they may restart IAD in the future. I don't think that they 'failed' at B
81 oa260 : my flight to milan with aer lingus was cancelled this morning nice lady at ticket desk gave me option of refund or taking rome flight i took rome opti
82 BrianDromey : Sounds like it was handled pretty well, in all fairness. It's been a tough few months weather wise, with the snow and ice over the winter and now the
83 shamrock321 : Long night here in DUB, last MON is delayed until 0405 and Ive to wait, will be very very boring!
84 AirNZ : I'm afraid you're very wrong indeed if you think such is the "stereotypical" Ryanair passenger. Extremely wrong in fact.
85 Eagleboy : I didn't say this was the only passenger that FR rely on. I was referring to what some call the 'casual traveler'. People who have taken advantage of
86 EISHN : I've a quick question about CO. I'm flying them next week to SEA, and was wondering if they use single or double pronged headphones? Cheers
87 tonymctigue : DoubleI'm pretty sure. Been a while though. Be sure to let me know for certain as I'm due to fly them in the middle of June. I have a question about
88 AmricanShamrok : I think they just randomly select bags to be checked and take them from the baggage handlers. Not too sure though. Also does anyone know if they have
89 Lawair : This is accurate based on the reports at the time. EI during the summer of 2001 was carrying over 13,300 passengers per month on BWI-SNN, which was a
90 tonymctigue : Funny you should ask that. Last time I cam through SNN coming back from LHR in February, there was a sniffer dog there. That was the first time I eve
91 dstc47 : If I recall correctly double pronged on CO but it has been a year, due to less competitive quotes recently. Re the BWI service, EI have suffered grea
92 Post contains links irish251 : Interesting development this evening, with Aer Lingus pressing for further changes to the approach to airspace closures arising from the volcanic ash.
93 eirbus06 : Emirates advertisement in the evening echo newspaper in cork today for cabin staff. Dubai based though!
94 LUPOR1D : No just check them in as normal, you dont see them again until America. There are these cameras at checkin which take photos of the bags and customs/
95 tonymctigue : Cool. Thanks for the info. Looking forward to giving it a go this June. I was through SNN last February but I was travelling to LHR so didn't get to
96 eicvd : Flew home from LHR on the BD131 earlier tonight, was one of those ex BMED a/c (G-MEDK). LF was very close to 100% id say, including the business class
97 irish251 : The Strategic A320 positioned in on Monday evening and parked. The HiFly A330 is due at 0230 local time and is of course bringing Irish troops back f
98 COEI2007 : Its 2 crew, the Cabin manager and a SCCM, but a 3rd is used when/if needed for parts of the service. Id be really surprised to see wine given with di
99 dstc47 : The Irish Independent today has a story that 2 FR aircraft at Belfast found traces of ash in engines that had not flown close to the plume. No damage
100 oa260 : Yes QR were recruiting in DUB also a while back. Did the A/C have the Mid Haul large J class seats? Seeing as the route / cabin is Y+ and Y its a nic
101 Post contains links oneworld77 : This has been in the news since yesterday but coverage outside the North and in general and in the aviation world has been minimal. Should we be surpr
102 oa260 : I read this story somewhere the other day cant remember if it was on a website or in a newspaper. I remember it stating that they were inspecting the
103 shamrock321 : Hello all, the Strategic Air flight was a private charter from LYS/MLH, Good to see the BD loads still high, I was supposed to look after that flight
104 oa260 : Saw that when I landed at midday. What is the all white B727 next to the all white A330 .
105 eicvd : Cheers for that. It did indeed, the J cabin was full with the typical business class traveller . Saw that A330 depart, no idea who it belongs to.
106 Post contains links and images aerlingusa330 : I just did my daily perusing of EI A330 photos, and came across this one: I know EI had some trouble with paint issues with their new A330s. IIRC, thi
107 DavecFlyer : That is M-ETIS, a private B727. Did you notice the winglets? It came in this morning. I don't know the last B727 to visit but I read somewhere that t
108 Post contains links and images oa260 : Yes noticed that looked cool. ------- My latest EI report is here also has the pics of the all white B727 and A330 this afternoon . Re Route DUB-FCO/
109 shamrocka330 : Anyone notice the Air India departures on the Dublin Airport website for tomorrow morning? The 3 departures to Mumbai, Delhi and Chicago are all showi
110 Phen : That is indeed very very odd. Perhaps someone is having a laugh, or maybe they are testing things for AI! It sure looks that way...
111 COEI2007 : The flight numbers used are the ones currently used on the India-Frankfurt-USA routes?
112 Post contains links Eagleboy : Great little spies we have on this thread..................someone better tell DAA that their security is compromised! Heres a pic of that white B727
113 oa260 : LOL... Im sitting here in the BMI lounge but there is nothing interesting this morning, except the EY arrival.
114 JWMD123 : Interesting development. In fairness, if AI do move ops to DUB, it would be a major feather in the DAA's hat given the competition they taking on in
115 shamrock321 : Looks at DUB arrivals there is also a Sata flight from YYZ due to land around now! Toronto YYZ Sata S43310 12-05-2010 11:30 Delayed 1153 I know Sunday
116 aerdingus : Oh that post wasn't above mine when I asked about the SATA A310! Was nice to see and hear, even through the clouds! A310's have such an unmistakeable
117 Post contains images oa260 : Cool not too far from me --- That AI thing was indeed weird. Always takes a mistake to find things out lol
118 eicvd : I saw that on final approach, when I noticed it was an A310 I thought it was an Air Transat untill I saw the SATA logo.
119 shamrock321 : Just look at the pics in another thread of the extra aircraft in HAM for the Europa cup final, next year we will host the final, finally our turn for
120 Yellowstone : Hello, Irish A.netters! I'm going to be visiting your fine country this fall for the first time, and I was hoping you all could fill me in on any part
121 kaitak : Good morning Yellowstone. There's not a lot of aviation related things to do in Ireland, apart from watching the action at DUB Airport; we don't have
122 dstc47 : Yellowstone welcome. In Northern Ireland you might like to visit the Ulster Folk & Transport Museum just outside Belfast. There are a couple of mi
123 Post contains links tailfin : If you're in the south west try http://www.flyingboatmuseum.com/ Check out their online video overview.[Edited 2010-05-13 03:11:57]
124 Post contains links EISHN : You could fly DUB-SNN on an EI A330, then rent a car and drive 30 mins to the Foynes Flying Boat Museum. An interesting museum with a great mock up (
125 Post contains links aerdingus : @ Yellowstone Try Collins Barracks in Dublin City, it has some Irish Air Corps aircraft on display; a Mile Magister aircraft hangin out of the ceiling
126 tonymctigue : Was just going to suggest these trying these two things. Admittadly, I've never done either. It is always they way that whne you live beside these th
127 EISHN : I've only been to the Museum, but it's worth a visit. Had been meaning to go there for years. Finally made it down one Saturday last summer. I haven'
128 LUPOR1D : Or get the bus to Limerick and then the Foynes bus.
129 EI320 : It's been reported on another site that OMNI have left SNN due to the unreliability of the operation there as a result of the ash cloud. It'll be a hu
130 kaitak : Disappointing if true - and not a little illogical. After all, (a) the ash issue is unpredictable, (b) if they pick an airport further east, they cou
131 shamrock321 : Where are they operating to/from now then?
132 tonymctigue : I hope it is not true but it is something that I had been thinking was a possibility. Surely there would be a contract in place between the SAA and O
133 EI320 : It's true alright. 30 people are being let go at EFG Inflight catering. Apparently Omni will be back after 6 months but I'll have to see it to believ
134 EISHN : While I'm sorry for those who will lose out financially, I'm glad they're gone. I never wanted them there in the first place. It contradicted our neu
135 EI320 : There's plenty who won't be sorry to see the back of them. It was only last Sunday when I was on the bus to Limerick via SNN that there was a mini pr
136 Post contains links oa260 : British Midland International's new product on the DUB-LHR route for those interested. British Midland International New Economy Extra (by oa260 May 1
137 tonymctigue : You have to wonder though how reliable his information is. It would be great if it were true but as with everything else, we'll have to see to believ
138 Nibog : Good morning everyone, Quick question,anybody know of any issues with the MCO service yesterday/recently,engine related.If there was I just hope that
139 bestwestern : Your comment - not worth it - sums it all up really. Rebranding British Midland International is rearranging deckchairs on the titanic in reality. Th
140 dstc47 : Ash News Figures released by the IAA yesterday revealed that 4,743 flights were cancelled to and from Ireland during the period April 15th to May 10th
141 Post contains links Nibog : Further to my previous post I came across this ; Any Incident On EI121 DUB-MCO 05/13? (by KFlyer May 13 2010 in Civil Aviation)
142 Post contains links EI320 : There's a little more info here http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0514/aerlingus.html Aer Lingus says there is nothing to suggest any connection with volca
143 oa260 : Indeed and I only used my E Upgrade to waste them really as I get four more in July and if I dont use the 2009 ones I loose them so might aswell. Nex
144 bestwestern : I agree. Their BOB menu is quite good, aircraft clean(ish) and they offer a high frequency service to most european destinations. Still cant beat LX
145 Post contains links Nibog : Thanks EI320 here is more; http://www.avherald.com/h?article=42b77451&opt=0
146 styles9002 : As the cliche goes 'be careful what you wish for as you just might get it'. The loss of this troop transport business will have a significant impact
147 CarbHeatIn : CM was quoted in an interview a month or two back stating that any EI expansion at SNN will utilise Aer Lingus Regional ATR 72s. He specifically menti
148 EISHN : The biggest loser will be the SAA. The only business this will impact on will be the bar/café in the lounge, and the duty free shopping area. Troops
149 AmricanShamrok : Anyone know what this is about?: (Shannon Airport Departures) Newquay Aer Arann RE4012 15-05-2010 14:50
150 oa260 : For sure but there is some concern they maybe not available for much longer.
151 wexfordflyer : Well folks, Just in AUH now after my first ever flight on Etihad and I must say it was most enjoyable!! I loved it. FLying on to BKK now and I cannot
152 Nibog : Safe journey onwards to BKK wexfordflyer
153 kaitak : Are they thinking of pulling out of Ireland again? Wouldn't it be better to re-time their services if they are having troubles with loads; it's not a
154 styles9002 : Mind the civil unrest too...
155 CarbHeatIn : A Munster rugby charter for Sunday's British & Irish Cup Final against Cornish Pirates at The Recreation Ground in Cambourne
156 COEI2007 : It seems like EI's Flexifare with a free snack? Id rather a cheap fare and pay for a cup of tea etc. BD will find it tough against EIs high frequency
157 shamrock321 : Just a note on the DL JFK-SNN flight, we had alot of passengers this morning who had been bumped off the SNN flight onto the DUB flight! Alot of them
158 oa260 : Safe onward trip and good luck in your time away. Who knows everything is possible these days. I will miss the J class runs to ATH but when OA come i
159 TravelGuy : If DL keeps on the route at any sort of frequency ( >3 per week), I can't see how EI doesn't pull off the route. EI won't be able to compete with
160 Post contains links oa260 : TR is up , the title cant fit everything in so in fact the report is LHR-BCN-DUB with British Airways and Aer Lingus Last Flight On The BA Boeing 757/
161 AmricanShamrok : While I agree that EI will probably suffer on the route with CO's and DL's increased operations at SNN, and their advantages on aircraft size; it wou
162 Post contains links kaitak : Or alternatively, announce some regional UK routes (SNN-MAN/BHX) at the same time as announcing the SNN-JFK route being cut. Realistically, if it com
163 Post contains links irish251 : And EI-EMK is en route today, due into Dublin at about 1845 local. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYR800K
164 dstc47 : Dust cloud is on the way back apparently - with the North West Coast of Ireland already under threat for tomorrow as well as LHR for later on. As if w
165 styles9002 : Many currency analysts have a negative outlook for the Euro/Dollar exchange and a few have even predicted parity as early as 1Q11. If that does happe
166 wexfordflyer : Thanks for all the well wishes. I got out of Bangkok as quickly as I arrived due to all of the riots. Flew up North with AirAsia. Grand flight but it
167 Post contains links oa260 : Ash cloud closes Northern Ireland airspace A no-fly zone has been imposed over parts of Northern Ireland, causing renewed disruption for air traveller
168 BrianDromey : From my experience of ORD-Ireland in 2009, they were able to combine SNN-ORD and DUB-ORD flights into one A330 and still have seats free (as happened
169 AmricanShamrok : That also says that the DUB-ORD service must have been quite dire. No wonder AA switched over to 757s last winter!
170 BrianDromey : We could argue this forever! Point is that SNN service to ORD direct does not seem to be viable. To make it work EI either need smaller aircraft or t
171 LUPOR1D : The cargo carrying from SNN to ORD was notably high and was one of the reasons for its operation as a direct flight during the summer.
172 david_itl : DUB to be closed from 1900 today to 0900 tomorrow according to the BBC.
173 AmricanShamrok : From what I've seen with my own eyes on the flights I've been on in the past, I'd say there's definately a market here - and EI know this otherwise t
174 Post contains links oa260 : Ash cloud forces closure of Dublin Airport The Irish Aviation Authority has said it will have to close Dublin Airport from 7pm tonight until 9am tomor
175 COEI2007 : I think that SNN-JFK could be coming to an end TBH, as DL and CO offer the right capacity for the market, and have built strong relationships with th
176 shamrock350 : You can't really base the performance of a route on a few flights a year. A friend of mine travelled LGW-EIN four times over the winter and he said a
177 callbell : Remember that a seasonal route like SNN-ORD means some work has to be found for the aircraft at the other times of the year. A 3 times a week service
178 AmricanShamrok : Perhaps that perticular route did well but the base as a whole was not profitable - hence they cut the bones of the whole network barring the Irish d
179 shamrock321 : We had a strange one today, Thomas Cook sent 200 passengers on 5 buses from BFS to DUB having told them there would be an aircraft waiting to take the
180 oa260 : Its one thing cancelling flights due to ash clouds but another thing to send passengers on a wild goose chase. They should file a group compensation
181 JWMD123 : DUB now back open for full operations
182 AmricanShamrok : Between 11:20 and 12:40 today 13 aircraft (10 FR and 3 EI) positioned back to DUB from SNN. An RE aircraft also positioned back to GWY from SNN this m
183 TravelGuy : More than likely the need for the 767 on other routes prompted the change as well, both for passenger and cargo. Unlike EI, AA can swap out its aircr
184 callbell : That would depend on if the variable costs (ie those incurred operating the flight) are covered by the revenue. If not it would be cheaper to leave t
185 shamrock321 : Seen a beautiful Luxair Dash 8 landing and taking off from DUB today, must have been a sub for the normal ERJ looked very well indeed.
186 COEI2007 : I wondered how AA did on DUB-ORD as they seem to be mostly operating a 757 this summer. Ive only seen the 767 a few times?
187 AmricanShamrok : Flights AA92/AA93 are scheduled to be 757-200 (as per the winter timetable) until 10th June when they'll switchover to 767-300ER service. They'll swi
188 aerdingus : I never would have thought it had the range! Oh wait...did you mean 737-800 or Bomabrdier Dash-8?! I'll go with the previous....[Edited 2010-05-18 14
189 shamrock321 : It was a Dash-8, I checked the arrivals board when I got home and it was running early so well able to keep up the timetable! My grandad is buried in
190 kaitak : The Dash 8-Q400 has a fairly good range; Flybe uses it for some of its regional services from the UK to France and SAS did as well, before they had a
191 Post contains links ThrottleHold : Maurice Flanagan confirms EK are looking at starting flights to Ireland. http://www.arabianbusiness.com/58855...emirates-eyeing-ireland-flights-la
192 Post contains images JWMD123 : I think the line in the article says it all: "We can't do everything but we will be there sooner or later" I think this is great news to hear and wou
193 dstc47 : EK rather missed the boat, if that is an appropriate metaphor, and what would not be so nice if EK then displaced Etihad who have worked hard, against
194 shamrock321 : I dont think EK have missed the boat at all! If they come into to DUB they will take a fair chunk of the EY business and I dont think it would take th
195 styles9002 : -'In January 2009, Etihad signed a codesharing deal with Irish airline Aer Arann, which gave the Abu Dhabi carrier access to regional hubs such as Cor
196 dstc47 : Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I certainly did not see it anyhow, but the airshow planned for Punchestown in early June has apparently be
197 sawtooth : styles9002 "regional hubs such as Cork, Galway, and the Isle of Man?" Ethiad codeshare on some REs domestic DUB routes. Though with RE devoting aircra
198 shamrock350 : The Aer Lingus winter schedule for Gatwick has been released, two based aircraft with Cork down to just once daily and Knock down to four per week. Du
199 sawtooth : NOC - LGW has had a terrible year with prolonged ice cancellations in Jan/Feb and the volcanic ash on top of the recession. Fares/taxes are often doub
200 AmricanShamrok : It'd be nice to see EI further expand out of NOC. Maybe a W pattern out of DUB i.e. DUB-CDG-NOC-CDG-DUB or DUB-FCO-NOC-FCO-DUB or something. Continen
201 COEI2007 : I wonder is that the definate schedule for LGW winter? The schedule shows the 06.40 departure from DUB-LGW is gone which is surprising! Id say the sc
202 oa260 : They were nearly going to start before 9/11 then it was scrapped. They even went as far as closing their GSA in Dublin and firing their sales rep. Tw
203 aerdingus : That's impressive alright, thanks for that. Yeah seems SAS were quite unlucky with their landing gear!
204 eicvd : I think OS operated a weekly flight from Bolzano in northern Italy to DUB a few ski seasons ago with their DHC-8-400. Just found this from an old thr
205 DavecFlyer : I think that was my quote from the time! Yes, this operated for a few years running. I just booked a day trip DUB - LHR - CDG - LHR - DUB to take in
206 Post contains links oa260 : AF A380 On CDG-LHR-CDG (by FlySSC May 6 2010 in Aviation Polls) Moved to Travel-Polls. My Dad is taking the TGV to Paris and then the A380 to LHR and
207 DavecFlyer : Thanks for the link to the thread. Booked for Saturday 17th July. It says A380-800 on my ticket email. It's obviously a big risk that they could swit
208 oa260 : No probs weekends seem to be ok at the moment. DUB-CDG-LHR/LCY-DUB would be a nice combo also all on AF
209 AmricanShamrok : I looked into it but it works out at about €300 if you do SNN-LHR-CDG-LHR-SNN which would be the only option for me. The SNN-BVA-CDG-LHR-SNN was a
210 EI320 : I looked into doing the same thing, don't think I'll be able to resist the temptation for much longer to be honest! I might fly straight back to DUB
211 shamrock350 : I was surprised to see AGP still there to be honest, in January I thought EI had every intention of dropping it by the winter schedule and it was onl
212 Post contains links kaitak : Interesting report on EK's interest in a route to DUB: http://www.arabianbusiness.com/58855...-ireland-flights-launch---top-exec Personally, my view i
213 dstc47 : If you cannot sustain CDG from SNN,service to NOC is a no hoper.
214 oa260 : Its hard to tell but thats exactly what I think would happen. EY would loose the battle because EK would offer direct access to Dubai as opposed to A
215 Post contains links sawtooth : Sad image of the scrapped FR CIA 738 on the front page today... http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Boeing-737-8AS/1706590/L/
216 AmricanShamrok : But NOC doesn't have LHR or BVA to compete with!
217 SURFER : Hey people just to let you know Omni Air will be rolling back into SNN in the next day or two!!it sure will be nice to hear the roar of those DC-10s a
218 shamrock321 : Looks like the AI rumour is looking quite good for DUB, also DUB will loose one of its American carriers this winter, cant say which one (dont know wh
219 eicvd : With this weekends big racing festival at the Curragh sponsored by Abu Dhabi & EY, hopefully we might see some AUH or DXB governent a/c visit DUB.
220 aerdingus : Good thinkin batman!
221 neutral : I must be thick I've checked US/DL/CO and they all look like serving Dublin during the winter!!!!
222 eicvd : Did you check AA?
223 shamrock350 : Earlier the US booking engine wasn't showing any flights from DUB throughout November but I checked again and it was showing fares available. The othe
224 neutral : Never thought of AA !!!! Good news if the AI rumour comes through
225 shamrock321 : Just checked myself and the airline is still selling seats, but their staff at DUB were told today they will be packing up for the winter.
226 oa260 : Well they are going somewhere lol... FRA-ORD bookings are being refunded or re routed from November according to a mate of mine.
227 AmricanShamrok : My guess is US.
228 EireRock : It must be AA because i tried booking a flight for Nov and it doesn't give you any DUB-ORD non-stop.
229 dstc47 : FR are considering leaving Marseille, apparently over a dispute concerning labour contracts. Based staff are apparently employed on Irish terms, Gover
230 Eagleboy : Well thats blown Shamrock321's tight lips! Seems strange that the French allowed this in the first place.
231 irishbean : Hi Guys; can someone within Aerlingus help me? What is policy with priority boarding for Gold Circle passengers? Some times, mostly in Dublin, they an
232 LMML 14/32 : Hi Paddies, FR opened it's latest base - Malta - earlier this week. It based on plane EI-EMF. Is this a brand new plane?
233 eicvd : It is indeed, was delivered on the 29th of April.
234 aerdingus : Is SNN good for spottin? Headin down to Clare tomorrow, can't wait, so sick of Dublin!
235 styles9002 : From where in Europe does Air India currently fly to in the USA non-stop?
236 AmricanShamrok : It's not great anymore. All takeoffs/landings are few and far between now with all the reductions in service. My advice is get there early if you wan
237 Post contains images aerdingus : Aw. Was hopin to catch an Omni DC10 or somethin. Cheers anyway.
238 Post contains links and images EI320 : Not much scheduled traffic anymore but you'll still be rewarded if you stick around long enough. There's always a couple of Omni DC-10's every day an
239 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : I thought they'd left SNN no? Myself and a friend were over there a few months ago and a squad car pulled up next to us and asked us to move. He was
240 tonymctigue : Great to hear Omni are resuming at SNN. There would be no spotting left there at all if they pulled the plug for good. Those DC 10's look even better
241 dstc47 : Have not heard that called at Dublin in a very long time, mostly just general boarding nowdays.
242 oa260 : I cant remember the last time I heard one either, especially in stations outside of Ireland.
243 shamrock321 : The AI flights would be the same as what the offer currently at FRA, times vary from summer/winter. They have gone to great lengths to prepare for thi
244 AmricanShamrok : AMD, DEL, BOM, ORD, EWR and possibly YYZ, most likely... This is the current setup they have at FRA: Arrivals 06:30 AI191 AHMEDABAD 06:30 AI121 DELHI
245 Post contains images oa260 : I forgot I took a screenshot the morning I was in the BMI lounge with my netbook when the flights showed on the boards. Uploaded with ImageShack.us
246 Post contains images aerdingus : Thanks everyone for the SNN info! Fingers crossed for a DC10!
247 shamrock604 : I thought the same about MIA styles.. but someone in the know who I asked said not a hope. I was surprised as it is at the top of MIA's wish list on
248 shamrock604 : They dont (or shouldnt) have a choice. This is french government bullshit at its worst. EU law is very clear on the rules for transport workers, and
249 styles9002 : AA has publicly stated it is moving forward with a 'Cornerstone' policy for growth of five hubs (JFK, MIA, ORD, DFW, & LAX) and if I am to believ
250 shamrock604 : On Anna.aero's MIA route page, the spiel is clearly directed at EI, saying demand would sustain a 4 per week A330 service at an 80% load factor. MCO
251 kaitak : I couldn't see them dropping DUB altogether. They must get quite a bit of feed through ORD. This is one of those routes which falls into the category
252 Post contains links kaitak : Thread 13/10 is now open for boarding ... Irish 13/10: Amhrain San Aer (by kaitak May 21 2010 in Civil Aviation)
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