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Explorer Concept For Avro Business Jet  
User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2707 posts, RR: 25
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

Bae is evaluating the idea to offer kind of an explorer version of it's Avro Business Jets.
I still don't get it. Who do you think will be interested in such an explorer version? First I though it's for scientific missions but then I saw another picture on runwaygirl's webpage:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...concept-for-avro-business-jet.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/ru...aes-explorer-offers-the-ultim.html

Any ideas?

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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4435 times:

Wow! Now that looks a bit... er... "different" !

Is there anything else like this out there?


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15742 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

This seems a bit odd at first glance, but after some more thought I realize that such an aircraft could be very attractive to oil companies and such.


Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7531 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

BAE Systems supplied a significant number of Avro RJs on ten year leases round about ten years ago. These leases - for example those on the BA CitiExpress aircraft that the airline used to use for all its LCY flights - are now expiring.

Whether the 'Explorer' concept is a desperate attempt to invent a market for a small number of these aircraft or a clever and innovative development to add value to the 10 year-old aircraft or even something in between only time will tell.


User currently offlinepenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

So the pilots book a hotel to rest while the owner RV's it in the aircraft in the middle of the Sahara? Noble concept.

By the title of the article, I was figuring they would attempt to convert these to cargo ops for remote destinations, upgraded tires/brakes or whatever for unpaved runways, etc and market it as a corporate-sized C17.


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2707 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Found a little bit more information: it seems as if the concept presented in the two articles above is just one concept out of 5 concepts, which will be developed by Design Q:
http://www.ainonline.com/news/single...s-jets-for-the-explorer-set-24743/

Like so often this will most probably remain just a concept whereas in reality the Avro Explorer will be rather as described above by BMI727 and Penguinflies (for oil companies etc.). Nevertheless, it'll be interesting with which concept they will go ahead.

Quoting penguinflies (Reply 4):
So the pilots book a hotel to rest while the owner RV's it in the aircraft in the middle of the Sahara? Noble concept.

Yes, and something is missing in the artists picture: the lions sleeping in the shadow of the fuselage waiting for the owner to make a deadly mistake.  

Best regards
N14AZ


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Can you open that balcony hatch in flight and sit on it? Now THAT would be nice. Have a breath of air or a cigarette.

Soren   



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User currently offlinebmie70 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

I think it could work. I believe this is would be a custom modification, but it could be used either by exclusive safari lodges to allow guests to get to game areas quickly with out long overland journeys. It would probably be popular for hunting trips in the arab gulf states.

I work in superyacht design where these types of balcony are a very popular feature.


User currently offlinemhockey31091 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

That doesn't seem feasible at all to me, would that work?

User currently offlinederekf From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 912 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

How is this going to work then? If they need power on the ground for things like electrics or air conditioning, they'll need a GPU or the APU - neither of which is particularly quiet. No animal is going to come anywhere near it.
What sort of airfield is it going to be able to land at where wild animals are free to roam anyway? Sounds a great idea (?) not thought through fully. Still, good luck for trying.



Whatever.......
User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3162 times:

Looks like the aircraft one needs in these times, when airports are closed, all hotels full of stuck tourists, and if you want to shoot a deer you have to fly it in from a certified breeding station. I wish them a couple of sales.

User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7531 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting derekf (Reply 9):
What sort of airfield is it going to be able to land at where wild animals are free to roam anyway? Sounds a great idea (?) not thought through fully. Still, good luck for trying.

There are plenty of such airports and airstrips worldwide, perhaps hundreds. For example from NBO there is a constant stream of aircraft flying tourists out to air strips like these:


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I suspect that many of these have some form of local poewer supply that could mitigate the incompatibility of nopisy APUs and wild animals.


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 2969 times:

A tent made out of solar panels should be in the price of the aircraft, shouldn't it?

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